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This could be big, too. I say we let Eddie run his edit of it, then we gather as a DIF to do an episode where we give a round of notes on the edit. That could be super fucking interesting as a round of honest-to-god-fixing-the-prequels notes, and Eddie's reasoning for edits and stuff, plus the resulting edit would be the one people would get to see.

That's...I love this.

Teague Chrystie

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Teague wrote:

plus the resulting edit would be the one people would get to see.

Uhh, how would that happen, without committing blatant copyright violation?

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I think a reedit falls under Lucas fan film flexibility clause.

Eddie Doty

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OR...

I simply provide an EDL for free on the web and allow people to recreate it on their own.

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Well, other than there's officially no such thing, sure.  smile

True,  there is a vague precedent that Lucasfilm chooses not to prosecute such things - they didn't take any action against The Phantom Edit, nor any of the other thousands of remixes online, because George finds them amusing.   They're all still copyright violations, they just go unprosecuted.

Which is fine unless SOPA passes, at which point it's not just George's call, the Department of Justice can step in and enforce the law.  They're not as cuddly as George, apparently.

I rather doubt SOPA will ever become law, or that yet another re-edit of the prequels would actually run into legal trouble.  I have to say that it astounds me that here on a website mostly for media professionals, we talk so blithely about committing felonies... without at least acknowledging that that's what they are.  smile

OR...

I simply provide an EDL for free on the web and allow people to recreate it on their own.

Now that's interesting...   it would take a copyright lawyer to really sort that out, but I wonder if that would indeed be less actionable.   It involves no transmission or reproduction of someone else's media, so I would think so.

Some clever person should come up with a "universal EDL" app that re-edits existing works, and you just trade the EDL data.  Or does that exist already?   Hmmm.

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Trey wrote:

Uhh, how would that happen, without committing blatant copyright violation?

You'd have to ask Eddie that question, I guess.

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Does anyone else think that no one back in 1999 would have liked The Phantom Menace, and that it totally would have bombed, if it didn't have Darth Maul & people swinging lightsabers around?

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Trey wrote:

OR...

I simply provide an EDL for free on the web and allow people to recreate it on their own.

Now that's interesting...   it would take a copyright lawyer to really sort that out, but I wonder if that would indeed be less actionable.   It involves no transmission or reproduction of someone else's media, so I would think so.

That was done for at least one song by The Jams that was forced out of stores due to use of samples (the same group that used the name The Timelords for the song Doctorin' The Tardis). They released their vocals and such, with instructions on what sampled clips to insert where.

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Just in case you're not all totally burned out on dissecting The Phantom Menace, this guy has some interesting ideas on what it could have been:



A lot of his ideas reminded me of the treatments Dorkman and the rest of DIF came up with, but it's worth a watch regardless.

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Teague Chrystie

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Anyone mind if I just pretend that's how that movie went down? Like, from now on?

No?

Cool.

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Love it! Good find Rikkitikkitaavi.

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For best effect, watch the video embedded with Orson Wells clapping right below the entire time.

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Interesting. He hewed much closer to the actual movie than I did, which makes sense since he was approaching it from the perspective of giving notes on what's there vs. throwing it out and starting over.

Just goes to show how little needed to be changed in order to make TPM a solid movie. Just have, like, a point.

(Although, um, "why do we need a space battle"? Check the title again, yo. First SW movie in 16 years, folks want to see some pew-pew. It might be okay if the blockade run served that purpose instead, though.)

Also, it's a little sad how an entire generation of twenty-somethings seems to have learned the ins and outs of proper storytelling by studying why TPM wasn't it.

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Dorkman wrote:

Also, it's a little sad how an entire generation of twenty-somethings seems to have learned the ins and outs of proper storytelling by studying why TPM wasn't it.

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What if The Empire Strikes Back was a horrible sequel?

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I believe the first draft of TPM, had Obi-Wan as the main character, basiclly replacing Qui-Gon for the first half of the film.  Qui-Gon didn't show up until they arrived at Coruscant. Qui-Gon them went with them back to Naboo.  I don't know why he changed it.

At least according to The Secret History of Star Wars book.

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Snail wrote:

I believe the first draft of TPM, had Obi-Wan as the main character, basiclly replacing Qui-Gon for the first half of the film.  Qui-Gon didn't show up until they arrived at Coruscant. Qui-Gon them went with them back to Naboo.  I don't know why he changed it.

At least according to The Secret History of Star Wars book.

I find the Secret History to be an interesting read. I think TPM suffered for not having Obi-Wan as the main character, giving the audience a whole new character only to know that he has to die. It also, in my opinion, paints Obi-Wan in a more negative light for the entire prequel. He resents Anakin and takes him on as a dying request of Qui-Gon. Sounds like the start of a great friendship  hmm

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The Ridiculous Menace

http://fanedit.org/14489/

First 12 minutes.

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http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-e … nute-movie

I'd quite like to see this.

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I just came to post this article as well.
I love the idea, if only someone less famous did it, they wouldn't have any qualms of making it available for the internet to see.

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Owen Ward wrote:

http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-e … nute-movie

I'd quite like to see this.

Eric Forman did a Star Wars fanedit?!

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Yeah...sorta kills the idea I had.

Eddie Doty

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i love that star wars fans ten years later still are hurting and trying to heal the wound...
http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-e … ute-movie/

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To quote Spaced: "I know, but it still hurts...."

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