Topic: Let's talk about music video directors

Not like, "who's your favorite," or that kind of thing, but just the concept in general. Whenever the term gets brought up on DiF, or anywhere else on the internet, for that matter, it's almost always negative. It's like an easy blow that one can lobby against a film. I remember it getting brought up on the commentary for Terminator Salvation, for example. Someone mentioned that directors who start in music videos have a tendency to fail as feature directors because all they have to do when directing music videos is throw a bunch of random shit on screen and pretend it makes sense. And for some of these directors, there's no denying it.

I mean, David Fincher? What a hack. Spike Jonze? Get the fuck outta here. Mark Romanek? Don't even bother.

It bugs me when people make this argument, because it falls apart at the slightest provocation. Sure, the stereotypical music video is a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing, but not if it's made by a good director. Good music videos don't have that problem. And those directors end up making good movies. Sure, Bay and McG and all the rest of those shitty directors came from music videos, but they were still shitty directors while they were making them. Fincher and all the rest are good directors. It doesn't matter that they came from the same place as Bay, because they actually know what they're doing.

It just seems like people conveniently forget Fincher and Jonze and Romanek and Gondry and all those guys when they talk shit about "music video directors." We can just say "bad directors," because I don't think that the whole "music video" thing has much bearing on the situation. Does McG bring a music video sensibility to Terminator Salvation? Sure, you could argue that. But Fincher brings a music video sensibility to his movies, too. It's just his sensibility instead, and that's the real difference.

Sorry if this doesn't make any sense. I just wanted to put this idea out there.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Re: Let's talk about music video directors

The argument has more to do with sample size, I think. Only a very few humans get paid to direct massive movies for the studio system. You can usually bank on the fact that they've been well vetted - as a group, their signifying feature is "they come from the special group." There are bad movies and good movies, but the people who make bad movies typically don't stick around long, which is an additional safety net against hacks in the major movie system.

Music videos, on the other hand, are directed by quite a few humans - and they're mostly all humans who want to be in the movie group, too. They are not yet. Why? Well, any number of reasons, but the fact of the matter is they're not. The problem isn't music videos aren't usually complete little stories - though that's part of it - it's more that the entrance threshold for being a music video director is much lower. All you (feel) you need to know about a major film director is he's been directing major movies. All you (feel) you need to know about a music video director is that he's been directing music videos.

So skepticism happens. "This guy over here comes from the group with some amount of quality assurance. This guy over here comes from the group with far less. Let's see how he does."

Teague Chrystie

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Re: Let's talk about music video directors

That's true. At the end of the day, though, all that matters is if you're good at your job or not (or at least good enough to churn out some shitty summer blockbuster).

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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