Topic: Does Hollywood have a "White Male Director" problem?

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Adam Quigley's rebuttal is extremely misguided. Has he considered that if female directors were given the chance to helm big-budget projects, maybe they'd be successful?

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Not sure what you mean. His point is that virtually all directors start small and then fail or thrive on their ability to turn a profit. Do we know of black, Asian, or female directors who hit big but weren't given another chance? Or who weren't given a second chance after a modest failure?

I think the problem is more basic: black, Asian, and female directors aren't even getting into the game in the first place because they lack many of the resources young, white men have. If Sundance and others had a lot of diversity but only the white male film makers were getting deals to move into major features, then that would be really telling, but I don't think that's the case.

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Wow. That is an unfair reading. He was talking about his emotions, not hers. And the soccer analogy is the heart of her argument. She wants to be picked to helm a big movie, but these these white guys keep getting picked. His point is that those white guys had much the same chance as she did but proved out the gate that they could make money, and she had flops.

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There's no denying that her films were financially unsuccessful, and the names she names were financially successful. The exact numbers don't matter. His point remains valid.

And again, he points out that he shares the emotional reaction to the situation.

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To be fair, the soccer analogy isn't a great one because it ignores the social pressures that discourage the other girls from playing with the boys.  Alexander's essay has some flaws but the overall point is fairly incontrovertible.   Quigley acknowledges and then ignores the actual issue to the detriment of the position he claims to support. 

Of course Hollywood has a white male director problem.

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Hollywood is, despite occasional claims to the contrary, risk-averse. This means going with tried-and-tested. And 99% of the time, this means white male directors. It's a self-perpetuating cycle. I don't really see this as something that can be debated with ambiguity.

The thing worth discussing, I think, is how exactly to achieve an actual equality of opportunity. I remember somebody (half-certain it was Geena Davis) saying that if you look at a crowd scene, it's only about 20% female. There's nothing stopping us from having it be 50/50 (and, sidenote, shouldn't this be easier to do, considering women generally get paid less than men anyway?). This is non-speaking, relatively passive work, and we can't even get that right. Pretty disheartening. So having fairer proportions of male/female directors isn't going to be easy to do.

I'm sure that this is a top-down (white males at the top make most of the decisions) and bottom-up (less women pursue directing, maybe?) problem, though.

About that last point. A question, for those of you who went to film school: roughly what was the female/male ratio?

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Yeah, with Trey, but he buried the lede. This is a world problem, not just movies.

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