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Deamon wrote:

just curious trey what did you shot it on? Red Mx?

No idea.  More importantly, did you hear Teague drove 97 mph in a 10mph DWP/Handicapped Children's School Zone?  While drunk?  In his car that had broken glass and socks filled with bars of soap dangling from it?

Eddie Doty

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Speaking of rewriting history, the speed limit at AES is 15 mph, and there are signs posted everywhere.

yes, Faith Films is a branch of the Asylum, it's their "family" brand that does faith-based movies, kids movies, etc.

Moby was indeed shot on a Red, my first experience working with one.  Overall, I liked using the Red, especially the flexibility it gave us in post. 

Since Moby was never going to release theatrically, and would only be seen in hi-def at best, we could zoom in on the Red footage more than 100% and still be within hi-def resolution.   There were many times we took wide shots and broke them into closeups, very useful for scenes where I hadn't gotten enough coverage.   (When you're making up the shots as you go and there's no script supervisor, sometimes you miss things. smile )

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Oh, then it was twenty in a fifteen.

*blink*

I just remember it was five mph over. I was very drunk and slinging glass and soap socks.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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By the way, if you're a Time/Warner cable subscriber, 2010 Moby Dick is now available On Demand. 

You'll find it very near the top of the list... smile

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Just awesome. We're all wondering in the office what they use for the VFX... I'd like to think Maya & Nuke but I have The Fear that it's Lightwave or Cinema4D...

And lots and lots of splash footage to screen over everything smile

That said, we have all decided the VFX are AWESOME.

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I know a lot of those guys are Lightwave users. Don't know what they use at Asylum.

And I will bitch slap you with my Lightwave dongle.

pimp

Teague Chrystie

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Lightwave and Fusion are their weapons of choice.   

However, I did my shots with AE because it's the only comp software I know, fortunately for me they also have AE in-house.

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Trey wrote:

Lightwave and Fusion are their weapons of choice.

"At least they use nodes" -- one of my collegues smile

That just makes it even an awesomer achievent in my eyes (and Fprime rocks).

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DorkmanScott wrote:

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA

/surprised Asylum hasnt done 1984 now that I think of it

//its a number and everything

///give it time

EDIT: Silly me, it's still under copyright, for 10 more years. DAMN YOU BIG BROTHER!

No problem. Call it 1985 and make it a disaster movie where the totalitarian government's genetic experiments on rats used for head-cage torture mutate into giant man-eating CG rats that try to destroy the world. And for some reason they have to fight them with a submarine.

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Squiggly_P wrote:
DorkmanScott wrote:

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA

/surprised Asylum hasnt done 1984 now that I think of it

//its a number and everything

///give it time

EDIT: Silly me, it's still under copyright, for 10 more years. DAMN YOU BIG BROTHER!

No problem. Call it 1985 and make it a disaster movie where the totalitarian government's genetic experiments on rats used for head-cage torture mutate into giant man-eating CG rats that try to destroy the world. And for some reason they have to fight them with a submarine.

BRITANNIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH GIANT RATS

WAR WITH RATS IS HYGIENE
SERVITUDE IS PATRIOTISM
SECRECY IS POWER

MARGARET THATCHER IS WATCHING YOU AND YOUR HOUSE FOR GIANT RATS

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

Zarban's House of Commentaries

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This just in:  Asylum's campaign to have people put 2010: Moby Dick on their Netflix queue has resulted in a "larger than normal" DVD order from Netflix.

So, Moby should be available from Netflix very soon, thanks to all of you who helped game the system.    In the words of Captain Ahab - HA!

/edit:  oops, actually that was just one word.

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"fu-ses."

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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One question I don't think you answered in the episode, Trey, is would you do it again?

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It was his first feature film, how can the answer be no?

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Beldar brings up a good point -- Invid, I think maybe you could clarify your question.

Do you mean "if you could go back in time, knowing what you know now, would you still take the gig," or do you mean "If the Asylum came to you tomorrow, saying they really liked 2010: MOBY DICK, and offered you 1985: BIG BROTHER AND BIGGER RATS, would you say yes"?

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The second. Was it a good enough experience with enough of a pay check to do twice, or is it something no sane person would say no to the first time or yes to the second?

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My answer is a conditional yes.   

There's a lot I like about what the Asylum does, and the best thing is that they make movies.  I've got three potential "real" projects that have all been mired in months of negotiations now.  It'll be a great day if any of them actually happen, but the waiting is maddening, and they may never happen at all.    But in the case of Moby (and most Asylum projects), it's "we're shooting a movie next Monday, you wanna direct it?"  and boom, done.   And my favorite part of the process is being on set, no matter how bad and desperate and crazy it gets.   Post-production is just the necessary evil that comes afterward.  So if that call came again tomorrow, I might indeed say yes again.   

That being said, an even better scenario would be if I wrote the movie myself, because then I'd know what the heck I was making and have a chance to give it some thought beforehand.  And now that I know  the Asylum post-pipeline, I could shape the project from the ground up, so the post was more manageable.   And finally, it'd be nice to get some say in the crewing - while the vast majority of the Moby crew were great, there were a few weak links that were in over their heads and that cost us time.

Assuming Asylum would ever allow any of those things, or ask me to direct again anyway, of which I know not of their plans.  smile

But the paycheck alone would not be a draw.   I've actually been doing freelance fx work for the Asylum lately - 'twas just my luck that Moby was the last project they did with a two-person fx team, now they've tripled the in-house personnel and even farm out additional shots to folks like me - and being an Asylum fx contractor pays better than directing.  smile

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But the paycheck alone would not be a draw.   I've actually been doing freelance fx work for the Asylum lately - 'twas just my luck that Moby was the last project they did with a two-person fx team, now they've tripled the in-house personnel and even farm out additional shots to folks like me - and being an Asylum fx contractor pays better than directing.  smile

Hmm * Chinstroke *.

ZangrethorDigital.ca

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If the movies with better fx don't bring in more money, I wonder how long that will last smile

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Just discovered Moby is now available on iTunes

Just, y'know, fyi.

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This is kind of off topic, but Trey brought something up that's stuck with me; the bit about how "better quality doesn't change our bottom line."  I can't help but wonder if that's what's been happening with the studio system in, say, the last decade or so.  The difference is the studios do have the money and time for all the flashy fx, and don't seem to care as much about telling good stories. 

I'll site Alien 3 as an example here.  They knew they wanted to keep the franchise going, and went through no less than three different scripts (and several directors), and ultimately the movie we got bears little resemblance to what the guy who got the credit wrote.  People went to see it (including myself) because it was just "Hey, another Alien movie!"  The industry has literally become a Field of Dreams; if we make it, they will come.

Don't get me wrong, there are still plenty of talented people out there, and as we've explored on the show, plenty of good movies being made.  But we've also had many examples of films that could have been so much better with just a bit more effort.  I'm not sure where the blame lies here, either with the business like machine of the studios, or the public who keep paying to see movies with little regard for quality; I suspect it's a bit of both.

Until the public becomes more discernible, I'll have to content myself with the fact that the system does produce something worthwhile occasionally, and that there are groups like this out there that do care.  I'm good with that.

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Trey wrote:

Just discovered Moby is now available on iTunes

Just, y'know, fyi.

We should all at least stop by and offer a review; right now it's sitting at 2/5 stars and 13 ratings.

Also, just noticed that it shows up under Warner Bros. films; are they the ones financing the video release?  There's no mention of Asylum at all.

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The only "Warner" connection I'm aware of is that Asylum movies almost always end up on Time-Warner/Comcast PPV, there's even an internal "Time Warner deadline" for every film, that's when it gets submitted to TW for review and, hopefully, acceptance.

So maybe they've got some kind of distribution arrangement with Warner for other markets like iTunes as well, but I'm just guessin'.

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since you've said you shot MD on the Red Trey, I was wondering what lenses did you guys use for this production?

P.S. I pretty sure my punctuation is off on this post...

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One of the areas where my movie-making knowledge is lacking is the topic of lenses.   I happily lean on the DP to deal with that, I just say stuff like "let's go wider" and they do something with pieces of glass that makes the picture embiggenate.  This is clearly some kind of dark wizardry and it frightens me.

So if you're looking for an answer like "we used the Canon Wogambo kit with a custom spleetch extender" then I can't help you.  Unless what I just said sounded like it could be true, in which case we'll go with that.   

But if you were looking for a more general answer, then I can say it looked to me like the same kinda lens package that I've seen being used on other shoots. So once or twice during the shoot I would get sneaky and say something like "let's try this with a 50" as if I knew what the hell that meant.   If I didn't like the result, then I would say "hmm, nah, let's go wider".  It seemed to work, and I recommend this clever trick to all directors.

Also, the lenses were all kept in a gray metal box with some writing on it, if that helps?