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Cloe's rant about fairy tales from PAN'S LABYRINTH and how they need to make sense- involved guys working at a college bar who wanted to seem smarter (not sure about the timecode, though.)

Also Mike's Lassie-esque What-Are-You-Trying-To-Tell-Me-Movie?!? ranty Thing at 1:53:30 - 1:54:02

Also at the end of a comm, but in CONSTANTINE, (Brian starts first at 2:03:00, then Mike comes in at 2:03:13) with the Spear-of-Cockblocked-Destiny vagina witticism. And then all of you proceed to wheeze and laugh and crack the fuck up all over the place for nearly the rest of the recording. XD

ETA: The Back-To-The-Hobo full explanation! (which I think is in SUNSHINE, but I can't find it- it was about TRANSFORMERS, but on another commentary)

The Cs of Britain for V FOR VENDETTA (also preceded by Miki's slit-mesh insights around 2:04-5:00) starts at 2:13:39 with:
Miki's question about Costumes,
which leads to Teague's Cauldron, Castle, and Cape/Cloak,
Trey's Crown,
Teague's Chips,
Mike's Cunts,
Teague's Copper,
Miki's Cockney,
Trey's Cheese, Cottages, [Cottage Cheese?], and Country,
Teague's Ceremony,
Mike's Comfy Chair,
and Teague's CCTV at 2:15:00

(written with quite a few pauses for laughter)

Edit The Second while I'm at it: Tokes and Stokes is somewhere in PULP FICTION, I think, close to....the dealer's house coming onscreen the first time?

While looking through SUNSHINE, I happened upon the methods of death/suicide/YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR *sigh* discussion : 1:19:27 - to Mike at 1:20:27.

**Possible (semantic) Spoiler warning for the movies and books, just in case**

HP has loads of depth present within the books, so much that encyclopedic ones have been written by many just to explain parts of said depth. The books, in those cases (both the canon and...extracurricular ones) have the ability to flesh that out with no real worry as to length. *eyes Book 5/OotP somewhat fondly* This:

is a near direct result of Kloves having the task of compacting most of those layers of depth into an incredibly limited space while ALSO having the responsibility of communicating them to people who have not read/listened to the books and all of the backstory in detail. Hermione's (and several others') explaining has plenty of wiggle room in JKR's arena, but much less so in the movies. If I recall correctly, Emma is given other characters' lines/perspectives sometimes to serve that purpose.

The "knocking-down magic" stems from the book series being (at least at first) geared toward children (Now, that's most likely just one aspect of it, but.). Harry doesn't use anything stronger than Expelliarmus and Stupefy as his signatures because, as far as we see in the majority of the books, that's the most he was taught. Expelliarmus in Lockhart's Dueling Club - courtesy of Snape, where it blasted Lockhart pretty far off - and Stupefy because it was a submissive maneuver used (and the first one he's seen and heard the incantation to) in the Quidditch World Cup aftermath. Since those were the first offensive spells he was exposed to, they become his bread-and-butter for offense pretty much until he splits off from Hogwarts in DH. Then the more...complicated spells he learns after that are either from battle observation, or field necessity and Hermione/Ron/Other Significant Person using them with the incantations audible or shown to him (after which point, he is able to put them to use himself).

As for the rest of it, Harry's been put on a pedestal by the rest of the Wizarding World, who idolize him for something he has no idea how he accomplished or how to give a repeat performance, as it were. This gives him gigantic expectations to fulfill. Dumbles' reluctance to train him due to the man's (understandable) emotional attachment to preserving Harry's innocence provides severe setbacks to this. As a result, Harry needs a complex support system to fill in the gaps. Yet, the wider World sees nothing of that, they only get that "Ooh, he defeated the evil dictator before, so he MUST know how to do it again!" - with the cocktail of yellow journalism and a press monopoly thrown in to skew public opinion. As the series moves forward, he gleans the knowledge from his support system to finally do his task in the end like Mike said, but he would never have gotten that far without his friends and haphazard experiences each year filling in the gap left by Dumbledore's too-little-too-late training.

Trufax. *nods*

Has anyone mentioned Canterbury yet? xD

So not even DIRECTORS, let alone screenwriters, the people or individuals without whom there would be no plot, and thus no reason for the movie to practically exist, get to intervene when someone misinterprets and fucks their vision over?

That's shitty, to say the least.

I've never seen/read any of Vendetta's source material, and it's been a couple years since I actually saw the movie. From what I remember, though, it blew me away.

What with the amazingly executed mind games toward the middle and end, V being so enigmatic and a fair bit distant for the majority of the movie, with shades and flashes of humanity escaping toward the surface at the same time, then the ending spectacularly blowing that lid off in a totally unexpected way...it affected me on a level I didn't even know existed at the time. That's not to say anything about the REST of the cast either.

Great movie, and really excited you're doing it!

I'm sensing a bumper sticker/t-shirt idea here...

I have Tunisia forming itself, Estelle Getty, Jack Gilford, Bruce Woodley, peeps from soap operas, and Walter Brennan, but Coleridge and Randy Pausch both died then as well. Hm.

Full circle, lelied!

Also, moose piss is one of those "eye of the beholder" things, as it were. The cheap-but-tastes-surprisingly-great vs. expensive-and-bloody-disgusting champagne debate, for one. Or variations of liquor from different regions.