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I realized I haven't stated this: I watch anime with subtitles. Most dubbing ruins a series for me. I tried the dub for The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya and it genuinely pissed me off that the characters seemed so different. Moreover, the dubbed lines are different than the subtitles and can impact your understanding of what is going on. I always recommend hearing the voices originally cast for a show.



Gintama: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Tama
It's the late Edo period in Japan and aliens show up. The samurai fight and lose. Swords are outlawed. Alien technology spreads across Japan. 20 years later, one of the surviving samurai starts a handyman agency.

The setting mixes classic samurai elements with utterly modern technology and magic and aliens. It is both ridiculously humorous and, in story arcs, serious. To quote Wikipedia: "Although the series' story is commonly episodic, there are also a few story arcs which are developed through several chapters." So you sometimes get a multi-episode arc about a gang feud taking over the town and you sometimes get a single episode about eating dinner, or working at a sushi restaurant, or about working as a barber the day the undercover shogun sees how the common people get their hair cut.

The worst episodes of this series are entertaining. The best have me laughing out loud. With over 200 episodes and a new season starting in a couple months, you won't get bored anytime soon.

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Space Battleship Yamato 2199http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Batt … amato_2199
If, like me, you grew up with Star Blazers, Space Battleship Yamato 2199 will be hugely nostalgic. Star Blazers was the US adaptation of the classic Japanese series.
2199 is a loving retelling of the first season of the anime: There are new characters; the more childish humor has been removed; the enemy motivation and politics is more fleshed out; I think it is just plain better. There is also about 40 years of nerd arguing behind the changes. For example, the original Yamoto was found. And it was busted to sh!t. So, 2199 uses the ship design but the new Yamoto was not built from the wreck of the original.
Just check out the intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEC8bnqux44

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Invid wrote:

At the time I was into the cartoon Star Blazers (the anime Space Battleship Yamato), with tons of space combat.

For Invid:

I still get choked up by the opening theme of Star Blazers.

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From the New World (新世界より Shin Sekai Yori): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_New_World_(novel)
A story set in a future distopian town of psychics. The first half is children going to school and investigating. the second half is one piece of the distopia going out of control. The story really gives you a chance to get emotionally involved. There are lots of things I liked about the show but shouldn't you watch it just for the FUTURE DISTOPIA? (I am working really hard to avoid spoilers)

Sword Art Online: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_Art_Online
In the first series, 1000 beta testers are trapped in a VR game and told they cannot leave until they beat all 100 levels. If they die in the game, their game system will kill them. The story is often tense while the characters are a bit thin. It does, however, introduce a few interesting ideas (level 22) and has a good twist mid-series and at the climax.  The second series continues with a fairly light gun-based story arc and finishes with 'Mother's Rosario', a plot involving non-gaming uses of the VR technology. [Log Horizon has a similar premise but SAO seems focused on the main characters' romantic relationship and the PTSD/long-term effects  of the initial event. SAO= Fighting, Romance, Emotional scars; LH= Talking, Politics, Changing the Game World]

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Yeah. Plus, there's at least 3 different worlds in the series...  smile  Luckily, you can watch it all in order now.


I finished Akame Ga Kill today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akame_ga_Kill!

Ignore the promo art, it looks like most anime. The brilliant part, though, is that the plot follows two groups of assassins; one for the kingdom and one against. And, it's a kind of anti-Dragonball Z. Meaning, expect everyone to die and no one ever comes back. The fights are fun and interesting and the ending was not standard.

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I finished The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya this week: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruhi_Suzumiya


The story revolves around a girl who is bored with mundane life and wants to live in a world of time-travellers, aliens, psychics, and dimensional sliders. It is a combination of slice-of-life and a sci-fi show. [You may want to skip eps 13-18 as they are part of a time loop with VERY small variations. 12 is the start and 19 is the end.]

A sequel film, The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, is the wonderful conclusion of the show.

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Tomahawk wrote:

a verison of Arietty, which, incidentally, is also "adapted" by British TV, (Borrowers), featuring Stephen Fry and Christopher Eccleston.

Just FYI, Arrietty is British (1952). The anime is the adaptation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Borrowers There was also an American adaptation on Saturday mornings when I was a kid.

I think Jackson is trolling the world. He took the Star Wars prequels badly and is trying to make a worse prequel trilogy to redeem Lucas'.   L O L .

Kidding aside, the best of the lot, to me, is Fellowship. Each movie afterward, it seems Jackson takes more liberties and puts more of himself into the movie [ie: The ghost army rescue of The Return of the King is not in the book and is a terrible Deus Ex Machina. In the book, the army only destroys the reinforcements to in the south.]

I can understand if someone feels The Hobbit trilogy is supposed to be more whimsical. But, I think PJ (LOL) is doing a lot more than just a bit of whimsy. Moreover, he's brought characters from the very-not-whimsical LotR trilogy into this wacky-silly multi-massacre trilogy. It's hard to feel like it is supposed to be more childish and fun when it mostly just feels more lazy to me. For example, the Tauriel and Kili relationship undermines the significance of Legolas and Gimli's friendship.

Someone get one the fanedit ASAP. Please.

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I've liked each of the Fate that I've seen. But, I mostly like them as they are divergent stories that start the same. Each story features one of the girls as a love interest and turns out differently as a result. Ufotable seems to be making the better adaptations:

http://myanimelist.net/anime/356/Fate/stay_night

http://myanimelist.net/anime/6922/Fate/ … lade_Works

http://myanimelist.net/anime/25537/Fate … avens_Feel

Since Disney has thrown out the expanded universe, maybe. The expanded universe old tech was lightsabers that had belt-mounted batteries.

There is a deleted scene of Luke making his lightsaber. Was Obi-wan there? I can't recall. Regardless, the color suggests Sith and the Sith are the ones who experiment (caveat:expanded universe info). I would guess a new design rather than an ancient one.

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I would make use of such a resource.

I have found myself doing some targeted self-education via Wikipedia from time-to-time and there are times in both that and news where a paper is used as a reference and that paper is not available without subscription.

Invid wrote:

Hell, apart from Excalibur, I can't think of where I've seen them used in a movie.

Braveheart, I think. More relevant, I think there is a broadsword duel in Mel Gibson's Hamlet. I could be thinking of another movie, though. Or, the wrong kind of sword.

As for 'original intentions' Lucas has claimed to have started the story in his early teens. It's been through countless revisions (and many of his claims have changed too may times for me to believe anything he says) but the earliest full treatments I have seen/heard of were near-exact copies of The Hidden Fortress: same plot, same characters (the General was Starkiller). And, the Vader/Obi-Wan fight is kendo. It is one of only two duels in the OT and Vader/Luke is also heavy with kendo.

That said, who cares if there's a broadsword now? I only question the crossguard because no one in 6 movies needed one...

Also, a quick look at Wiki says broadsword basically just means "not a rapier": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket-hilted_sword

fireproof78 wrote:

I more meant how the sabers were supposed to feel, and be treated in the original  concept. It was more broadsword than strict katana.

Sorry fireproof, but nope. They are katanas. Most of the fighting in the original was kendo. Watch 'The Hidden Fortress' and you'll understand better that A New Hope is a samurai movie. Also, watch it because it is awesome.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Nnhitd4phew/UtiMVeULknI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/iavghdQsby0/s1600/fortress2.jpg

Jacob H wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng

Alright this is kinda genius.

Agreed.


I watched the teaser. I am still full of reservations. Hopefully, I will be able to enjoy it (unlike Star Trek and ST Into Darkness). Lawrence Kasdan must be able to have some impact, right?

Some choice Phantom Menace Teaser Comments, to cool you down for the year-long wait : http://geektyrant.com/news/read-ridicul … er-trailer

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I watched an episode.

My first problem with it is that John seems to be a good guy crusading for good instead of a magic junkie who is looking for a weird crap fix and sometimes trying to do a good thing. In the comic, he's not a crusading hero and many of the problems he deals with are of his own making.

Next, Papa Midnight called him a dabbler and there was no evidence of dabbling as Constantine called himself an exorcist (like in the movie) and didn't do anything but try to get rid of ghosts. I think he was also called a conman or trickster though he didn't con or trick anyone in the episode, either.

Last and worst, the comic John Constantine is a conman. He gets the crap kicked out of him on a regular basis as his plans don't always work. He cons Chas and treats him like garbage when he's kind of his oldest friend. His biggest play wasn't tricking the devil (like in the movie) but simultaneously getting three demons to hold title of his soul. That wasn't masterful magic; it was screwing himself so hard that there weren't any rules in place to deal with it. Even the "Hellblazer" title is a joke as it seems to refer to the Newcastle Incident (during which John screwed up).

They got the hair colour wrong, they got the accent wrong.

That's part of my point: He grew up a working class punk but has a long-practiced posh accent, wears a tie, etc to appear to be a gentleman. But, he's not a gentleman, or posh, or a magical heavy, or a trustworthy ally, etc.

Wikipedia wrote:

John Constantine, the main character of Hellblazer, was portrayed as a kind of confidence man and occult detective who did morally questionable things, arguably for the greater good. He usually triumphed through guile, deceit, and misdirection, but often made more enemies in the process than he defeated. Indeed, it was a common theme in the book that Constantine was unable to effect any lasting change or enjoy unequivocal victories. While sometimes striving for the good of mankind, Constantine was often manipulative and a dangerous person to have as a friend...


I'm truly sorry if anyone disagrees. But, I've really enjoyed the comic for years and have some strong feelings about it. I also feel like this is going to be a wasted show attempt. The same thing happened with The Dresden Files.  sad

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I just finished Baccano! last night. http://myanimelist.net/anime/2251/Baccano!

It's a great story and is stuffed with both fun and disturbing moments.

Warning: The first story ends with episode 13. The anime is 16 episodes and the last 3 eps are starting the next storyline which are not resolved in the anime. It genuinely feels like someone planned a 26 episode series and production stopped on episode 16. If you are interested, the story continues only in the original light novel series (which is ongoing).

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For kids, check out Tsuritama. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuritama It has a weird kid with a fishbowl on his head, lots of life lessons, and an exiting fish-catching climax.


I just started Baccano today. 6 episodes in and it is great. I just wish they named the characters better.


As for all anime being written by hacks, I can't disagree more. They have their tropes, but you guys are talking about things like Lain and Paranoia Agent. They're both over a decade old. I highly recommend you watch some of the shows from the last few years.


More recent anime:

Log Horizon http://myanimelist.net/anime/17265/Log_Horizon
MMO players trapped in the game. The unique focus of the series is mostly political: among players, the community and NPC relations.

Strange+   http://myanimelist.net/anime/21067/Strange+
Bits about a dysfunctional detective agency. There are lots of butt jokes and surreal comments in these 3 minute episodes. I found it hilarious.

Yondemasuyo, Azazel-san http://myanimelist.net/anime/10216/Yond … -san._(TV)
A demon-summoning detective uses powerful demons for menial tasks and weird cases. Very funny.

Fate/Stay Night  http://myanimelist.net/anime/356/Fate/stay_night
An anime adaptation of a multi-storyline visual novel. In the game, the story can go in several directions based on your choices. Various anime are being made for each variation of the story.

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I keep looking at my copy of the pilot. Staring for a few seconds and moving on to something else. I think I'm really scared that it's a bad show. Maybe when I'm looking at 5 or 6 episodes I will be able to watch it. Or, maybe I'm still suffering from hoping Doctor Who would be OK (it's not).

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FYI: Everything I posted is from the last couple of years. If you haven't seen anime since Cowboy Bebop or Trigun (15 years old now), you really need to see what's going on now.


I watched my first Strange+ episodes today. They're about 3 minutes long and stuffed with comedy and absurdity.

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My favorite resource, The Shana Project:  http://www.shanaproject.com/season/Fall … ?sort=date
The Shana Project is a listing of current and past shows. As new episodes air, it updates. With an account, you can create a list of your favorite shows and they will update as new episodes become available. The show pages include torrent links and several information links. You can also review previous seasons.


Recent shows (all complete seasons for binge-watching):

Samurai Flamenco. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Flamenco
A young male model is inspired to become a costumed hero. The second series reboots itself and explodes off the rails in a completely different genre with the same character (and it is still entertaining).

Outbreak Company. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreak_Company#Anime
An otaku is selected by the Japanese government to carry otaku culture to a parallel world which features elves, dwarves, cat-girls, etc. The central concept is well developed.

Noragami. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noragami#Anime
Literally, 'stray god'. Yato is the low man on the totem pole in the spirit community. Part hobo, part lazy teen, he's a former war god who now lacks even a shrine. The intro to the story is a girl who has one foot in the spirit world.

No Game No Life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Game_No_Life#Anime
A fantastically weird show about a pair of shut-in teen gamers who are transported to a fantasy world where every conflict is resolved via games. Refreshingly weird.

Sword Art Online. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_Art_Online#Anime
Without Spoilers: The show deals with issues surrounding the first full-immersion video gaming in the future. While the writing has a few hamfisted or sloppy moments, the series has a lot to offer. The second part of the first series is the fallout from the first half. A second series with new stories is currently airing.

Psycho Pass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Pass
Follows a law-enforcement group in a dystopian future where a computer makes all major life decisions. People with abnormal emotional states are either detained for 'therapy' or executed on the spot. The second series starts a new storyline.

Tsuritama. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuritama
Fishing. And aliens. Not much action but great characters. Hugely fun and mellow. Also, Enoshima is a real island. "Enoshima bowl!"

Black Bullet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Bullet
Post-apocalypstic Japan with monsters. Yes, it has lots in common with other anime. What it excels at, however, is raising the stakes. This show does more by episode 3 than most shows do in their entire run.

Hamatora. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamatora
Private detectives with powers. There's lots of characters, lots of action, and mysteries to be solved. I love the season 1 cliffhanger. The series concludes with a second series: Re_Hamatora.

MekakuCity Actors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kagerou_Project#Anime
A difficult show to summarize. The first 3 or 4 episodes all circle the same event with different character viewpoints for each. This focus on character makes for some very emotional stories.

Attack on Titan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Titan
Giants attacking the last human city. The pacing is a bit awkward but the horror is strong. There also seems to be a many-layered mystery that the manga has yet to reveal.

Please list some shows you have enjoyed.

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It sounds like it was amazing. I first read the play in high school and was blown away that it was so different from the mainstream versions (new and old, both). I think I need a video version, though.  big_smile

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Seconded: There is tons of humor in the Bible. And, in lots of other Western literature and culture. You'll find it easier to make the argument exclusively about the USA and it's Puritan roots.

That said, I have ached for years to see Romeo and Juliet performed with the jokes acknowledged. I have a true and deep need to see it performed properly.

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

we're all nerds for the gods sake


That made me laugh. Awesome.


BBQ: Great story rewrite. I would have had a chance to better enjoy the story. I still don't think I would, but at least the non-science would not be slapping me in the face repeatedly.


Isaac wrote:

When you say that a story cannot be great if it does not work for you, how can that be interpreted as anything other than you, Jp12x, are the final arbiter of what is great and not great.  I truly don't mean to be antagonistic, but how else can one read that?

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If you quoted me you could have had my words right there for reference when you typed. I will explain: 'Masterpiece' or 'great' or whatever you call it, means you have applied a standard for saying so. An 'masterpiece' was once a work that demonstrated fitness to join a guild (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece) and the work had to meet certain requirements. If you believe there are generally accepted principles for judging a certain thing, it is possible to agree a work fits that standard but you still don't like it. Even if you don't believe in such standards, you still apply a personal standard (otherwise you call every single thing you see "brilliant!" or whatever). My personal standards will not be the same as yours or those of most people. I am a depressive, hyper-critical, grumpy a$$hole. My standards are very high and rarely met. I thought it was obvious that, as there is no universally-accepted set of objective guidelines for judging the quality of a TV show, I use my personal standards. No matter if the entire world disagrees with me (see my signature), I reserve the right to say something is not 'great' and I don't like it.

I think the writer lacks a basic understanding of the physics/etc involved in the episode. I say this because it is generous. Otherwise, I have to assume he knows and does not care. It is also very common for people to not understand things like the fact that the moon is 238,900 miles from Earth (The Red Hulk and Thor have a fight that takes them to the moon and back in a single fight) and the trip typically takes NASA four and a half days. I fully understand that the episode works better if you watch it without a critical eye or if you are taken in by the 'fridge logic'. Unfortunately, I notice that crap as it happens and it messes with my suspension of disbelief.


But, set aside the non-science. I still didn't like the story. 

Here is the plot as I understood it. It is not great or magical but, at best, preachy:

The moon is an egg.
The Earth is a$$holes.
One person ignores the rest of the planet.
The egg hatches and no one dies.
The person yells at someone for some reason.

Call it bravery or an abortion metaphor or whatever you want. I haven't really enjoyed Dr Who since Smith's first season. I refer you to Red Dwarf:

Rimmer, can't you tell the story is not gripping me? I'm in a state of non-grippedness. I am completely smegging ungripped.

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Isaac wrote:

Can we agree that it is possible for something to be great even if it doesn't work for ourselves at all?

No.

Unless I misunderstand your meaning. I read your comment as "Some people say it is a masterpiece and thus you can agree even though it does not work for you." This is not how it works in art. Rather, you apply a set of guidelines for a work to be a "masterpiece" and, admit it is a masterpiece (in this technical sense), but you can also note that it does not move you or work for you. But, this is a story. The technical requirements for a masterstory or 'perfect story' may vary.

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I will never call 'Gravity' a masterpiece as a story as it is utterly implausible to me: NASA does not send grieving mothers into space. NASA does not send anyone into space without proper training. And, astronauts are fully prepared to act on behalf of experts who are on the ground. They have done so in adverse conditions many times in the past. The premise of the story fails in the first few minutes as I do not believe in the protagonist and her situation. Other people have other views but I feel a story set 'in the real world' should show the real world. If it is instead a fantasy or fairy tale or action movie with giant, fighting washing machines then it should be made clear. Fight Club, for example, does a very good job of establishing a 'real-ish' tone. This is not true of the episode.

The mass of the moon cannot change without introducing a source for more mass. No one is shutting off the power grid for entire countries in the middle of the night (who would even see that broadcast?). There is a long list of problems and any of them could be addressed with a single line of dialogue (ex: "It seems to be *BABBLING* from *BABBLE* to grow"). Star Trek TNG had an entire writing team whose sole job was filling in science nonsense in the script. All I ask for from Doctor Who is that the existence of basic science be acknowledged.


Worse, as stated earlier, the episode once more tries to double-feint the audience. The story looks like a monster story but builds to a 'wonderful' and 'magical' ending with a special, fancy creature and la-la-la. Then *Whoosh*, Clara is angry! Surprise!

Yes, it is a surprise. But, I don't understand it. I didn't understand why Clara (who gave her life for the Doctor in the previous series) was ready to leave after his regeneration. I don't understand why she is pissed at the end of this episode. I thought his explanation adequate and a compliment to her for standing up for her principles. I fully agree, she was introduced as a strong, independent, and willful woman. She can leave the Doctor at any time for any reason.

So, how do we go from him asking if he is a good man to her leaving without a warning? He called her his conscience. But, she wasn't upset about that. There was a problem with her boyfriend but that seemed resolved to her satisfaction. She clearly has no problem with nearly dying on a regular basis or seeing people killed when they are standing next to her. The only reason I saw given was she demanded he tell her what to do and he said it was her decision. And that, to me, was out of character for her. But, she has been written so inconsistently this season that I don't even care. If we had a few episodes that ended with Clara glaring at the Doctor's back as he walked away, I would understand. If the next episode begins with another F*CKING pointless cold open and Clara is infected with a mind parasite, I would understand that, too. I suspect that is not the case and will not be waiting to find out.

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It looks like 'Kill the Moon' wasn't the gripping thrillride it was supposed to be.

I am officially not watching anymore. I'll check the thread and I would love to hear that things get better. I just don't have the heart to keep watching.

Hope I'll see you guys in other threads!