Just finished watching this movie for the first time since I saw it in theaters. I decided to check it out again because a) I was bored, and b) I've had it on my Google Play wish list for a year. Why? Just because I vaguely remembered liking it, and there were five or six particular moments in the movie that stuck in my head. Which is pretty good for a single viewing ten years ago. I was also quite curious how it would hold up post-FIYH training.

So I started watching it with a few of the main points I learned from WAYDM, which I'll focus on for the review, such as
1. Story clarity or through line
2. Set-ups and payoffs
3. Character arcs
4. Magic Bean
5. Fridge Logic
6. Perfect Movie (?)

Story Clarity or Through Line
It's quite simple: two brothers do not get along. They find an adventure game which actually makes a them part of a real adventure by bringing them into the world of the game. By the end, they learn to appreciate each other.
Simple. Also it's obvious this is a spiritual successor to Jumanji, but I think it's different enough to justify its existence.
I think the through line of brothers learning to appreciate each other is clear, and constantly referred to as the movie progresses. So it's a success here.

Set-ups and payoffs
This movie is worth watching for these alone. Having listened to most of the WAYDM commentaries, I've got an amateur eye for catching things that look like set ups, and the movie payed off two dozen at least, big and small. There was one small one that I noticed just floating around a number of times, and thought "That had better be a thing." And BOOM. Right at the end they payed it off.

There are quite a few of these based on small lines, a lingering shot, and particularly one with a piano briefly mentioned in conversation that made me really happy. The best part about some of the more subtle ones (like the piano) is they don't shove in your face what they just pulled off. They just let you enjoy it if you happen to catch it.
Seriously, watch Zathura for good examples of this storytelling device.

Character Arcs
Pretty solid. I believe the main character is the younger brother, who goes through a clear arc of overcoming his fears. His older brother is also a major character who goes through the main arc of not being a dick to him. Both are well-justified, though the older brother's arc might be a tad sudden.

As far as the supporting characters, they're fun and generally make sense, with the possible exception of the older sister being a little too calm when she wakes up in the middle of everything (she freaks out, but not quite enough). That said, this is the most emotional I've ever seen Kristen Stewart be. She actually opens her eyes all the way for most of the movie. But seriously, she gets some great moments, and plays them well.

Incidentally the siblings interacting with each other is one of the highlights of the movie: I have three older siblings and seven younger, and this movie shines in showing what that's like.

Magic Bean
This movie might be strained a bit here, unless you give it the Wonderland (that the introduction of a different universe allows for multiple odd things happening). Personally I hold to the wonderland here, because the multiple contrivances make sense together.
So the wonderland magic bean is that a game transports the characters and their house into outer space for the duration of the game. There is still water, gas, and power, and oxygen. They also don't freeze. Don't worry though: lanterns are hung, and in excellent ways.
Aliens show up, but that still makes sense given the game's sci-fi theme.
The only bean that might not hold up is a somewhat iffy time paradox, but that's always the case with time. (Ugh. Time. Who needs it?)

Fridge Logic
Simply put, this is mainly related to the time paradox.

Perfect Movie?
Maybe. It certainly tied things up as far as I could tell, but I'm open to debate on this one.


Misc.
The acting was solid all around, especially from the two boys. The writing was filled with character lines and setups. Not a lot of exposition. I loved the family dynamic.
The special effects are really nice, including a lot of puppet work that I really felt good about. Also someone had a great time blowing a house to smithereens.

So give it a shot if you haven't seen it, or maybe another view if it's been awhile. Pay attention to the dialogue and setups and you'll have a lot of fun.

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Kind of a small thing, but this weekend I get to hang out with a friend of mine. The road to friendship was a long one from younger me being a disrespectful self-absorbed asshole to current me learning to shut up and listen occasionally. My friend has been super patient but knowing that they actually enjoy spending time with me now is just really cool.

The more we talk about it, the more I'm amazed. Everything about the world-building made sense without ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT IT! Just pay attention and you'll understand why people are doing stuff.

So I read the article about the VFX and the steering wheel. Wow they're good. The canyon before and after is amazing. I never would have guessed that it wasn't a real place or at least a set.

Invid wrote:

Not at all. I turned my monitor around and the picture looked fine.

You're dead to me!

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I really don't know what kind of movies you watched from the 80s, but a lot of this stuff is spot on.
Like really.

Invid wrote:

You're looking at it backwards.

No the youtube shot is the other way. He's looking left in the original.

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I guess this could go in the cool vids thread, but honestly I think it deserves its own topic. Check out this 30-minute short film Kung Fury. It's a brand-new '80s action/cop movie. Reminds me a lot of Tokes & Stokes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg

Yay! And it's the glasses-fixing shot. Perfect. Weird that they flipped it, though.

Agreed. But honestly did they have sex? If so I totally missed that. I thought it was just that she--instead of freaking out that he was there--recognized what he was going through because she went through the same thing, and was empathetic. He felt understood, and in their own, emotionally-stunted kind of way, felt a kinship that became love.

avatar wrote:

To be fair, it got away with avoiding exposition because it appropriated the existing Mad Max franchise, which is well known, so it had less world building to do.

I'm with Owen in that exactly everything I knew about this was "car battles in the post-apocalypse."

avatar wrote:

The brand MAD MAX is well-known (even by people that haven't seen the movies)... a car-based post-apocalyptic  wasteland. That's all you need to know.

If a car-based wasteland is all I needed to know, the opening sequence did that perfectly with a beat-up juiced-up car being chased across the desert by heavily-modified war-cars driven by explosive-toting maniacs painted white. It was more than enough to understand what was going on without having ever cared about previous films.

However, I agree that this movie probably did get a leg up from the majority of people liking the originals. But, while I don't care to watch Ex Machina, it seems to have done pretty well. So originality can happen.

The world-building without exposition was by far far far my absolute favorite thing about it!!!
That the characters just did stuff and behaved in such ways that we were expected to observe and figure things out...it made me wholly engage with the characters. I bought every one of them and their turnarounds and motivations just by paying attention.

I got the sense that 160 days was just their way of saying "we have no idea how far."
They talk in mythological, melodramatic ways because of their society so it made sense to me.

Just saw it. It was great.

The only three problems I had with it was that guitar and steering wheel shot, their reason for going back to the citadel, and their plan once they did.

I think it was a bit too easy to convince them that turning back was a good idea. Sure, salt flats are bad, but they seemed prepared to endure it. I would've liked to see something force them to turn back, or not try the salt flats at all. Very small quibble, but that may be just me.
Second was they seemed way too confident that the citadel would apparently be defensible once they got there. They didn't know they would get a chance to kill Joe, and even if the path was closed, the mountains could still be bypassed. I totally bought the people's reaction when they showed up with the "god" dead at their feet, but that should have been part of the plan somehow.

BUT other than that fridge logic, I thought it was great. As an action movie it was incredible. The violence wasn't body horror like I detest: just enough for you to flinch and fill the rest with your imagination.
The acting was great. Hoult, Theron, and Hardy were on point all the time. I bought the side characters too.
The fact that both the men and the women needed each other to survive was great. Not man-dependent or woman-power. Just people with strengths and weaknesses.

One final thing that made me happy: when Furiosa doused the burning engine with dirt, my immediate thought was "isn't that getting in the air intakes?"
...followed immediately by a shot of the air intakes re-opening their guard valves as the sand fell away. Perfect!

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Wow. Just, wow.

Well done.

OF COURSE everyone likes the action-heavy concept over the moody, artsy, thoughtful idea wink

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So, I don't really have mutimedia creations, but I did write this poem...


I often think I'm innocent
of bitter words or time misspent.
It's not my fault! I ought to know.
It must be true: I told me so.
Everything's to blame, but me.
People, weather, God...no really!
But in the end excuses fade
for evil done and good delayed.
The more I look, the more I see
the simple truth that, honestly
the cause for all my trouble lies
behind the mirror's staring eyes.

I operate on the assumption that there is only one actual timeline, and if someone goes back and changes anything, we will all remember things as having happened that way.
Basically, travelling back to change something is never going to happen. Because if someone were capable of travelling back to change something, they would know they wouldn't succeed, because otherwise they wouldn't be thinking of changing it, because it would have been changed in the past...........

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Yikes. Just saying, anyone using a neti pot should be super careful about where they get their water from: Naegleria Fowleri has been found in tap water as it's resistant to ordinary filtering. If Penn & Teller are right, bottled water might suck too.

BTW naegleria fowleri is known as "the brain-eating amoeba"......... go ahead. Google it.
Never mind: here's a electron microscope picture of the damn things:
http://www.waterandhealth.org/images/naegleria_fowleri2.jpg

Excuse me...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

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Wow

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Yeah I'm on the east coast and was vaguely aware of the effects on the greater economy. I was more curious about the personal effects. So higher water bills and higher risk of fire are part of it.
I hope you don't have to face a fire personally, if you haven't already.

What's up with Nestlé?

PS Those "drought-tolerant" plants wouldn't be named after Cpt Jack Aubrey, would they tongue

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I'm asking because I'm curious,
WAYDM guys, and anyone else located in CA, how is the drought affecting your lives?

Wow. That's really, really interesting!

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I shall rent it from amazon tonight

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Drewjmore, just watch Sucker Punch and transfer the tertiary metaphor to Dorkman. It'll make sense.

You have to be drunk, though, to honor him. Source: Sucker Punch WAYDM