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So who's boning up for Man of Steel? Who's got midnight screening tickets? Who's seeing it in IMAX 3D? Who's fed up to here with superheroes? Who's still waiting for a good movie this year? Who prefers Nolan's tone for DC over Marvel's? Will Batman show up after the credits... 'we're putting the band back together'
All the trailers have focused on character over super-punching, so I'm pretty optimistic. It has the potential to be the definitive superhero origin story, with Snyder and Nolan working together, much like the original Superman was.
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childhood memory story flooding back...
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In the days when only early adopters had VHS players, my father brought me along on a visit with a Ham Radio buddy of his. They disappeared to talk about frequencies or whatever and left me in front of a TV playing the Reeves Superman. I was young, I'm guessing 3 or 4, and my memory is flakey of it all, but this was one of those transcendant awakening moments for me, alone in a strange living room watching this thing happen that wasn't Mr. Rodgers or a cartoon. I remember being sorely disappointed for a while at the lack of a hero wearing a big red S, until he and it appeared...and then being so ecstatic the adults had to come out and check on me.
My childhood is primed for a thorough drubbing, is what I'm saying.
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I am excited. Tried to avoid alot of things, but the mood that I've gotten from the trailers has been promising.
What I look forward to:
1. Amir Mokri - Cinematographer who has worked on alot of glitzy stuff prior, including Transformers movies and other things for Bay. With the proper intentions this could be a gorgeous looking movie, which the trailers seem to indicate.
2. Shot on film, with anamorphic lenses. Not to diss digital cameras but the more I get into the minutia of photography and the look of film, this movie is probably going to be pure eyeporn.
3. Zimmer is scoring. I know whta he is capable of so I always have hopes that he will make something more than the repetetive stuff of recent years.
2. Shot on film, with anamorphic lenses. Not to diss digital cameras but the more I get into the minutia of photography and the look of film, this movie is probably going to be pure eyeporn.
3. Zimmer is scoring. I know whta he is capable of so I always have hopes that he will make something more than the repetetive stuff of recent years.
I'm looking forward that those aspects, too. Also, I think Amy Adams is a good choice for Lois.
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I don't really even know who is in it besides Cavill and Russell Crowe. When I know I will be watching a film I usually go into lockdown mode.
I don't really even know who is in it besides Cavill and Russell Crowe. When I know I will be watching a film I usually go into lockdown mode.
yep - me too. I don't even want to know if the reviews are positive or negative, but that's hard to avoid. Seeing the teaser trailer was enough and when the full trailer showed before IM3 and STID, I wondered what's that piece of fluff on the floor there.
TechNoir wrote:I don't really even know who is in it besides Cavill and Russell Crowe. When I know I will be watching a film I usually go into lockdown mode.
yep - me too. I don't even want to know if the reviews are positive or negative, but that's hard to avoid. Seeing the teaser trailer was enough and when the full trailer showed before IM3 and STID, I wondered what's that piece of fluff on the floor there.
Yep, I recognize that. I tend to love trailers that have as little dialogue as possible, because then I can just look away and not mind hearing tons of explosions etc. Saves me from having to plug my ears and look like an idiot in the cinema. 
As for Zimmer (@Squiggly), I like Inception for the most part, atleast in the context of the movie where it is superb IMO. My problem lately has been that as standalone listening, his slow repetitive approach with stiff, drawnout themes and little to no detail to make it interesting, his scores can be just so boring on their own. Pirates 3 was the last score from him I really enjoyed at all times, because there is detail inserted everywhere, alot of diversity in the instruments that are used, and the score overall was actually agile (ie he hit alot of points of accentuation and importance throughout). The Batman scores and other stuff just feel like he composed everything ahead of time, and without detailed reference to the scenes. If that is the case he also cannot really allow himself to actually make the score interesting, since he cannot accidentally signal to the audience that something is emotionally or otherwise changing if this isn't reflected in the movie. He's forced to making 2-3 minute underscore pieces that only serve to bring across the most basic of emotions the scene is supposed to convey.
For reference (and because why not post good Zimmer music at any point), this is the ending of Pirates 3 with the fight as the ships circle the drain of the maelstrom in the storm. There is so much detail and twists and turns here that are matched beautifully to the film. and there is actually some different melodies played off the strings and brass at times instead of the entire orchestra just playing the same stuff at the same time.
http://youtu.be/B5IlxIzL8mw?t=4m54s
I hope he actually puts effort into diversifying the music and adding the smaller nuances that John Williams does so well. There is a way to get Zimmers more powerful approach but also keeping the detail and nuance of other composers. Frankly the nuance and detail is what keeps me coming back to a score. If I can hear a new little layer on the 10th listen of a score, that is the mark of something great for me personally. You listen to the Batman scores and there is absolutely no depth, it's just one layer of brass, string and percussion.
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yep - me too. I don't even want to know if the reviews are positive or negative, but that's hard to avoid. Seeing the teaser trailer was enough and when the full trailer showed before IM3 and STID, I wondered what's that piece of fluff on the floor there.
I'm in full blackout mode, and I figure that I should see Man of Steel quickly, as it's becoming harder to avoid accidentally stumbling onto details or even feelings that can shape expectations.
For instance, whilst people are really good here on the forum about spoilers, just seeing those fast growing multi-page threads on IM3 and STID was enough to influence me on those two movies. I've still not seen IM3 yet, in part due to the 'controversy' about it that has spilled into other forum threads.
Shannon as Zod should be interesting. Anything is better than another Lex Luthor plot.
So who's boning up for Man of Steel?
(Yes, I'm bored)
avatar wrote:yep - me too. I don't even want to know if the reviews are positive or negative, but that's hard to avoid. Seeing the teaser trailer was enough and when the full trailer showed before IM3 and STID, I wondered what's that piece of fluff on the floor there.
I'm in full blackout mode, and I figure that I should see Man of Steel quickly, as it's becoming harder to avoid accidentally stumbling onto details or even feelings that can shape expectations.
For instance, whilst people are really good here on the forum about spoilers, just seeing those fast growing multi-page threads on IM3 and STID was enough to influence me on those two movies. I've still not seen IM3 yet, in part due to the 'controversy' about it that has spilled into other forum threads.
Avoid the Lego aisle too.
I pretty stoked for it. I'll probably get tickets for the Thursday showing at midnight. 
This is one of the last movies on my summer movie list. I will also be seeing Wolverine. I might see Pacific Rim.
Um, excuse me, it's "The Wolverine."
And I will be seeing that one as well
Apparently, thanks to product placement deals, Man Of Steel has already taken back around three quarters of its production budget- click
Anyone heard the score yet? I'm not feeling the love so far.
Doesn't sound too promising...
UNCUT magazine review: 6/10 "Release the World Engine!"
http://www.uncut.co.uk/man-of-steel-review
The problem for DC is that Marvel drank the Kool Aid and lightened up. Their films are light, loose and bright; pop art nuggets. DC, meanwhile, are still struggling to shake off the impact Alan Moore and Frank Miller had on their comics in the late Eighties with their vision for grown-up comics (as much an oxymoron as “a serious superhero movie”). Moore and Miller’s proposition of superheroes as psychologically complex, Nietzschean Übermensch battling both themselves and their own inner demons in dystopian cityscapes trickled down to first Tim Burton and then Nolan’s Batman films. It plateaued with Nolan’s last Batman film – the pretentious, po-faced and deeply boring The Dark Knight Rises.
The early scenes on Earth are the best thing in the film. We meet Kal-El – now Clark Kent (Henry Cavill) – as an introspective, thirtysomething drifter, working hand-to-mouth on jobs in trawler boats, in bars, scuffing round the remotest fringes of America. It reminds me a little of The Incredible Hulk TV series, where David Banner would similarly drift from one dead-end job to another until he found himself in positions where he helps others in need despite his secret. There’s a nice intimacy here, helped in flashback by some good work from Kevin Costner as Clark’s adoptive father...
Buildings are trashed, trucks are thrown, a city is almost leveled. Snyder spends the best part of an hour on this section, buffeted along by Zimmer’s increasingly bombastic score and an increasingly unhinged barrage of CGI devastation.
He [Henry Cavill] has little chemistry with Amy Adams, given an underwritten role as Lois Lane, and nowhere near as freewheeling as Margot Kidder’s version. Kevin Costner is arguably the best actor in the film, bringing humanity and lightness of touch to his part that is sorely needed elsewhere.
This was always gonna come down to how good the Nolan/Goyer story was, and Goyer's finished script. Snyder will always deliver on the visuals, of course, but it seems like Goyer blew it on the character stuff.
I'm still interested in seeing Man of Steel though, and will snatch it the moment it leaks. 
Anyone heard the score yet? I'm not feeling the love so far.
I listened to the score last night, and yeah, "bombastic" is right. It's Zimmer turned up to ELEVEN. But I enjoyed it, it's effective and gets the job done. I kept thinking "either the audience is gonna be on the edge of their seats and will be exhausted by the end, or the filmmakers don't trust the audience to be engaged in what is happening on screen.
Doesn't sound too promising...
Based on one review? Here are three positive ones-
PorridgeGun wrote:Doesn't sound too promising...
Based on one review? Here are three positive ones-
That Uncut review is literally the first thing I saw on twitter today, and the first review I was aware of. I just figured I'd post it here because the write-up made sense and confirmed some of my concerns (Snyder and Goyer). But fair enough, three positive reviews are still three positive reviews.
btw I stopped subscribing to Empire and Total Film years ago. Their reviews are less than reliable, especially when it comes to summer blockbusters. I remember Empire giving The Phantom Menace 5/5, and Total Film 4/5. 
Only because the person who watched it liked the film at the time. Their reviews are personal opinion of the reviewer and they were changed for dvd releases as they were reviewed by someone else.
Anyway, the UK newspapers seem to be settled on 3/5 which is still a good score. It currently has 60% on RT, 52 Fresh, 34 rotten so not a masterpiece but not really a disaster either, apparently. I won't be seeing it until next Friday 
IGN game it a positive review and said it was the best Superman movie since the 1979 version.
I'm going in with reasonable expectations of it being entertaining but not amazing. I'm not heavily invested as a Superman fan either, so if it's fun and decent, I'll be happy.
Now at an even 60% on RT....yikes, might even end up being rotten, I though this would be in the upper 80s-90s for sure. Did Snyder/Goyer drop the ball? Guess I'll find out this weekend
Same here. Got tickets to see it Saturday.
I'm not that invested in the character or the franchise, unlike with Thor say, so I won't be gutted if it turns out average. I figure that as long as it doesn't have a miscast Lex Luthor in it, I'll be fine.
I'm seeing it at midnight, so I'll have an opinion around 3AM.
I'm seeing it at midnight, so I'll have an opinion around 3AM.
This should be interesting...
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