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http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/02/27/true- … -season-1/
Good interview with Nic Pizzolatto, with some minor spoilers (marked) as he teases the final two episodes. He says he hopes the ending will be "surprising but inevitable" for viewers. He uses those exact words. Funny.
There've been a couple of occasions in interviews and those HBO GO featurettes that have me half convinced he listens to WAYDM.
Mike: what makes you say so?
Nic: stop lurking, get a goddamn account already.
NSA: I see you there.
Last night's episode killed a lot of my remaining goodwill, to be honest. When did this turn into such a rote detective drama?
2. I continue to enjoy the relationship between the two main characters. They're constantly grating against each other, yet they constantly need each other, both in practical terms and in, IDK, existential terms I suppose. Sounds like a simple enough thing to execute, writing-wise, but it doesn't happen automatically. When Marty killed Ledoux and conspired with Rust to cover it up, they shared a secret, one that weirdly enough brought them closer. When Rust banged Maggie (for 5 seconds!), they shared another secret, but that one tore them apart. Now with Hart Investigative Solutions about to torture some answers out of our crooked sheriff friend, they definitely are sharing another secret that pulls them both deep into the shit together. So many cop stories are stories where the cops merely have different personalities (LETHAL WEAPON). It's cool that these two guys have serious beefs with each other beyond personality conflicts (one fucks the other's wife!). Leads to all that wonderful, heavy awkwardness (helps to have good actors, too).
3. Somehow I wish the black detectives weren't quite so clueless.
4. Pizzolatto seems like he's heading toward almost a BLUE VELVET-in-the-bayou meets EYES WIDE SHUT kind of thing, where you scratch the surface of polite society and find all this ugliness. Preachers raping kids. Powerful people doing weird cult shit. This tack is super dumb when it's done wrong. I hope he doesn't do it wrong.
5. It seems like an awful lot to unravel in one measly finale episode. Either a lot of loose ends will be left dangling, or it's going to be a stupid ending.
I'm still fully on board, but this didn't feel like a second act break that powers us into the third act. We just got our protagonists back together, after all, and they don't have much to go on.
But based on what we've seen before, this show has got the goods.
I love the quiet conversation between Rust and Marty about what they've been up to, where you get the suggestion that
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Lower right is coming back with a vengeance on Sunday. It has to - can't be a coincidence that Marty's daughter recreated what we saw on the VHS tape.
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I wouldn't put it past this show if that acceptance speech somehow had clues built into it that tie back to the narrative.
RUST
That guy's in on it.
MARTY
You're crazy!
RUST
I'm TELLIN' YOU, Marty! Don't listen to the words.
Listen to the back side of the words.
MARTY
That's nuts. You KNOW that sounds nuts.
RUST
You know who else?
TV cuts to Kevin Spacey.
RUST (CONT.)
That dude.
MARTY
What?!
RUST
It's all a house of cards, Marty. And it's all
comin' down.
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Someone cut McConaughey's acceptance speech into the tape that infuriated Marty in Sunday's episode.
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Last night's episode killed a lot of my remaining goodwill, to be honest. When did this turn into such a rote detective drama?
HA! Very funny. This show was always a rote detective drama. Now that we know the truth about what happened between the guys in 1995 and 2002, we're stuck with trying to solve the actual case, which has never been very interesting. The character stuff between Rust and Marty continues to be very good, but there was some other shit that was just dumb.
Also, I find it pretty amazing how every scene with Maggie manages to annoy me more than the last. Her scenes with Marty are cliche as hell, and in her scenes with Rust, she's calculating and manipulative. Every other time she opens her mouth, I wonder why she's being such a bitch to Rust. And the way she used Rust to get back at Marty was just as loathsome as Lisa telling Maggie about the affair to get back at Marty. Rust's line about her asking him to lie to her essentially makes her culpable for Marty's years of cheating. Ugh.
But this episode did end on very good note for me. Because as pointed out on a forum for LSU sports fans,
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Also, as I semi-ironically pointed out to Paulou and Cloe when we watched this episode, he's mowing a
Lawnmower dude deliberately sent the two black detectives in the wrong direction.
Towards 'PR 1435':
"The king's favor is toward a wise servant: but his wrath is against him that causes shame."
We moved over the weekend, so I've been completely exhausted and half awake most of the time. This morning I got my son out of bed, changed him, and began our morning routine of breakfast and a little bit of Team UmiZoomi that I had on DVR. After that I showered, got dressed, and started making my breakfast. It was here that I realized I was one off on the DVR, and Grayson had made it into 20 minutes of True Detective instead Team UmiZoomi.
Grayson was.....oddly quiet.
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Eddie you buried the lead. Who does your kid think the yellow king is?!
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He's narrowed it down to 3 suspects.
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Well yeah. It's fair to criticize the scene as an information dump (it was), but the fact is it wasn't needless nor was it a rehash of stuff we knew.
I laughed harder at this than I probably should have.
The episode still could have been more economical and needed to end with more of a bang. The whole first scene in the bar was unnecessary. They could have gone from the side of the road to the storage locker. Then the ending is the suspect(s) discussing the fact that they know our boys have drawn a bead on them and they need to do something about it.
As is, this would have worked better if there was one more episode between it and the finale, I think. We've got our protagonists back together and on the right track. We reveal the suspect. Next up is tension moving to action. Then the finale is a raid or something; all action and a strong resolution of our characters. We need 10 minutes just for Marty to unspool Rust.
SPOILERAlso, again, it's a scene in a story -- so capping off the scene with the most shocking bit of evidence is more of a dramatic coup de grace than if they'd have ended the scene with the most trivial piece of evidence.
The problem is that it felt artificial - an unnecessary information dump capped off by a dramatic reveal that really doesn't make any sense for our characters.
And oh my God, that storage shed. What the fuck was that? It looked exactly the way Gilbough and Papania would expect it to look if Rust really was an insane serial killer. But it's also completely out of character for Rust, who hasn't actually said or done anything crazy during the whole show. The fact that other characters keep saying that Rust is crazy is not the same thing as him actually being crazy. Like Marty said, his behavior during the interview was him sizing up the two detectives. He's violent and has anti-social tendencies, but the idea that he would take the time to paint that ridiculous spiral on the shed door was painfully stupid.
After all of the endless talk about what a nutter Rust is and groundless speculation about whether or not he's the killer, how much more interesting it would be if the two walk in and we see that it's just a normal storage shed? There are a few boxes of evidence, a small table with a TV and VCR, and the map of all the disappearances hanging on the wall. Marty is also caught by surprise, having expected it to be crazy town inside. But instead we see that despite his own personal downward spiral, Rust is earnestly pursuing this case. If fits his MO much better, which has been thrill-seeking and violent (borderline suicidal at every chance), but also orderly with a close attention to detail.
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