Fixed. Yeah the tone balance was a staple of the omit and was something that was completely lost in the movie.
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Fixed. Yeah the tone balance was a staple of the omit and was something that was completely lost in the movie.
I never hated the Keanu movie per se, but it just simply wasn't everything that's great about Hellblazer.
Holy SHIT does this look awesome.
I'm not the biggest fan if Cloverfield as a film, but if you think of it as a lost episode of FELICITY (because the characters are practically the same) then it was awesome.
My walking-back usually happens within the first 24 hours after watching a film. I'll come out thrilled in the afterglow of a film only for the fridge logic to tear it all down (e.g. most Abrams); or I'll come out meh but then mull it over and realize the movie was doing a lot of stuff that I didn't notice as it was going -- fridge genius? -- and decide I actually love it now that I'm on the same page (e.g. most Aronofsky).
This. All day. THere's literally no point in asking me if I liked a movie as soon as the house lights come up because I'm almost always, "HAPPY! FILM HAPPENED AT MY FACE AND POPCORN." It took about two days for my issue with MAN OF STEEL to manifest. Rare is it a film that I walk out completely hating (BATMAN AND ROBIN) or completely floored because I loved it so much (HER).
In terms of me walking something back.....The Matrix. And yeah....I mean the first one. To me it does not hold up, and it's just not something I particularly enjoy rewatching. Even the fights feel really old and not terribly good at delivering story or character.
Awesome you guys. Thanks so much and feel free to keep it coming. There are certainly some great points made here, and I think there are ways to satisfy some of this going forward. I want to keep each episode to have a different feel, either in terms of guests, number of films, and type of analysis. I'll keep all of this in mind as we move forward.
Hey everyone.
I'm always looking for more feedback on these episodes as it's a passion project. If you've listened to this episode, how do you rate it with the others? Are there any documentaries or type of documentaries you'd like to hear about?
Also, special thanks to Teague for putting 5 R's in Grrrrrl Power, per my request.
A fantastic episode. Thanks again to Jessica for joining us. You can follow her on twitter @jessfilms.
I love that the best source for hints at the final two books are the tv show now.
Episode 10 is titled, "The Children."
As in, "Children of the Forest"
O HAI book 5!
Hearthstone, Sol Forge, Calculords
Son. Of. A. BITCH.
I had totally forgotten all about this.
This was the exchange between my wife and I when the baby was put on the altar:
(I've read the books, she hasn't).
Wife: Wait, what is this.
Me: ....I......I don't know.
Wife: What do you mean?
Me:....I....I....this isn't....
(Night's King appears)
Both: WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
Here's the thing with a lot of men who commit date rape: they don't necessarily think it's rape. Many men associate rape with something akin to physical violence and beating. But if you were to ask those same men that if a woman who has sex with them repeatedly suddenly says no, but you kind of talk her into it, was considered rape, they wouldn't think so. Most rape doesn't resemble The Accused. Most rape resembles what Jaime did to Cersei or that scene from Mad Men.
Again, the age/world they are living in does not have the benefit we have of identifying sexual agency. You cannot hold a fictional period world up to our standards.
So if you're in the US, and you ever watched Leno's run on The Tonight Show, you might be familiar with Ross Matthews. He did a lot of field correspondence for ten years or so. He also became a regular on Chelsea Lately. Well, he's all growns up and has his own show, "Hello Ross," for which I've been the Co-Editor for the last several months on. We tape here at Universal Studios Hollywood, and while the show's general slant (celebrity/pop culture talk show) isn't exactly where my interests lie, Ross is 1000% fanboy for his interests, so I respect him quite a bit. On a personal level, he's a fantastic boss and he passionately gives a shit about every bit we do.
With Late Night tv in US changing daily (we are produced by Chelsea Handler's company and she is in the middle of winding her show down) we're waiting to here about our pickup. In the meantime, I've had a blast this year cutting the show, and this little segment, from the episode that airs tonight on 11 in the US, is representative of the type of stuff we do. I cut both of these pieces in less than 2 days, amidst several rounds of notes. Take a look:
(E's website sucks my asshole and they don't link well)
In the book, Dany consents the first time. But GRRM makes it very clear in the book that for a while after her deflowering, the sex life in the Drogo household was most assuredly rapey. SO rapey that Dany is about to kill herself until she has a dream about the dragon eggs. She wakes from this dream with a new perspective, and their relationship from that point on becomes more about love and mutual respect.
In the show, they compress those events. In the scene where Jason Momoa is absolutely mauling poor Emilla Clarke , you see the look of pain on Dany's face, until she focuses on her Dragon Eggs. Then you see a change in her. It's subtle, but the point is made clear.
Yes, but we've been led to believe that Jaime has changed. Am I wrong about that? I don't think I am.
Becoming aware of your own dickish behavior is not changing. And if it was, so fucking what? He has yet to do anything in book or film to ATONE. If someone pushes my kid out of a window and then comes at me with, "But I've CHANGED," it wouldn't be anywhere near the zip code of enough to prevent me from killing them.
And more importantly, he pushes a kid out of a window and murders his own cousin out of love for his sister. Raping her, only a few weeks after saying specifically that he would rather die than be raped, makes zero. Fucking. Sense.
Far as I'm concerned, this scene is impossible to justify from a storytelling perspective.
Here's why I am at least willing to give it a chance to play out. Jaime's change of heart isn't about the fact that he has been immoral, it is that he has broken vows, and promises. THAT'S what he has come around on, his commitment to his word. He feels ZERO remorse for loving his sister. Now, the rape scene is initiated by the fact that Cersei has spurned him since day one of his return. At a chance to be alone, he tries to comfort her. She initially embraces him, then recoils at the sight of his hand. Now, for someone who has demonstrated a keen sense of brutality, this is the final straw. The tease. To come so close to being allowed back in her arms and then have that yanked away is what triggers his actions. In many instances of date rape, or rape even amongst married couples, the act of forcing sex isn't just about gratification, but about control. Jaime has no control over losing his hand, he has no control of Cersei. He has just had TWO kings die in his arms, and no one will ever know the true story of either. And what is the line he says right before he forces himself on her?
"Why did the gods make me love a hateful woman."
He has no control of his desire for his sister, so dammit, he's going to assert his will. He is going to assert control over SOMETHING. It's an ugly, hateful, petty act. And it is COMPLETELY IN LINE with who he is as a character.
Again, I fail to see the controversy around this sentence:
A character who shoved a child from a window, murdered his own cousin with his bare hands, fathered three children with his twin sister, also committed rape.
I have no problem if all that stuff is too much for you. Everyone has a line. But the character has a subteranean level of morality (in both book and film) and to be outraged by one aspect of it, is insane.
Settle down, folks.
Jaime, in both book and tv show, SHOVED A KID FROM A WINDOW. That's how we met him. Getting his hand chopped off, and taking a road trip with Brianne does not redeem that. In fact, even in the book he has yet to be anywhere near redeemed. He's complex, yes, and when we leave off with him he's trying to make better choices, but the needle is still far, far, FAR bent towards being a shitbag.
In fact, by inserting Jaime at the Purple wedding, D&D allow him to show concern for Joffrey that he frankly never does in the books. He has one sorta nice conversation with Tommen, and that's it. He talks about never feeling any real connection to the kids he fathered with Cersei.
Jaime has depth, and he's fascinating. He is also an immoral creep. To call Jaime "morally ambiguous," is an insult to the concepts of morality and ambiguity.
Agreed, but I was going off of Mike's use of "..something to DO when you're bored." If he's referring to simply watching, then sure. But again, movies have no more inherit worth than anything else you watch. Even if the opinion of the value is universal, it's all still subjective.
As for the value of sports only coming from having a winner, some of my best performances in Jiu Jitsu, where I was absolutely at my best, was when I lost. I once caught a guy in 20 some odd seconds in a somewhat fancy leg lock. That had far less value than the match I lost where I nailed a guillotine to triangle to moo plata combo, but ended up losing on points.
Anyway, this is getting all very hair splitting. I think we all agree more than we don't.
UPDATE: On further thought, I actually disagree that the value of watching sports is somehow objectively less than film. On an individual basis based on preference, fine. Whatever. But when I think of athletic performances in combat sports by guys like Genki Sudo, Muhammed Ali, Ernesto Hoost, I see pure art. Not everyone will, just like I will not necessarily see the same thing in a Pollack painting that others would, but I don't deny that there is a level of expression there, even if I am not prepared to comprehend all of it. Again, I give no fucks about 95% of sports, but that doesn't mean that artistry isn't present there to be observed.
No game makes "sense." It's just meant to be something to do when you're bored.
Granted, this is why I watch movies and not sports. Movies are supposed to have a "point." Sports are just supposed to have a winner.
I'm as far from a sports fan as it gets, but I feel this is a bit reductive. For many (not me, nor anyone else here) movies have no point. It's just something to do when you're bored. You sit, watch things happen on a screen, and then...that's it. That's a reductive expression for the magic all of us feel when entangled in a good movie. For those same people, games or sports are a way to stimulate mind and/or body, tap into humanities primal sense of competition and conquest in a (not always) safe way. I train in Martial Arts for many reasons, but I COMPETE in Martial Arts because playing that game benefits my character.
It was my favorite comedy of 2012. Whip smart and playful as all hell. Outside of Enter The Void, it had the best, "I'm ON DRUGS," moment of any film.
If you look at a clip from any Morris Documentary from about the late 80's onward, that's been his style. He and his editors are very precise when they cut to a half jump or to black. It's not random at all.
I was interested in The Unknown Known based on the subject matter, but then Morris was on the Colbert Report a week or two ago, and they showed a clip of the film. The style of filmmaking really annoyed me. There was this very obtrusive background music (Stephen quipped about it being horror movie music, which was dead-on) and Rumsfeld's talking head was jump cutting around to different positions in frame, seemingly at random. I can't stand that style of editing in a documentary, and the music just seemed lazy. Is that indicative of the whole of the film or did they just pick a bad bit to sell it on?
That style is Morris signature style, filmed on a device he designed called, The Interratron. Basically, the subject sits in front of a series of cameras, all with slightly different framings. On the main camera, sits a teleprompter, but instead of displaying lines of dialogue, it displays an image of Errol Morris, since its hooked up to a camera focussed on him in the other room.
Errol Morris used to be a private investigator, and early in his filmmaking career (basically anything after Vernon, Florida) he realized that when you interview a person in the flesh, there is a natural confrontational element to him. Also, he wanted the eyeline to be DIRECTLY at camera, and if you interview someone, their eyeline is almost always to wherever you're sitting. With the Interrotron, he found his subjects to be much more relaxed, and it freed him up in the edit.
The jump cut style is in no way lazy. In fact it's much more work than you would imagine. It's his signature style (broken up with graphics, recreations, etc) and if it isn't your thing, no worries. But make no mistake, there is not a better interviewer in the history of Documentary film than Errol Morris.
Oh, and the music was Danny Elfman.
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