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I... I started to read that, but realized I couldn't, due to the format and an extreme absence of punctuation and capitalization.
Apologies if you're not, but am I right in assuming you wrote all that while drunk?
Relevant to the topic itself: I like Jaws 2. The scene with the kid trying to hold onto the boat so hard, he takes a piece of it with him after getting pulled under water is intense and disturbing. 
...I didn't say we need anything - aside from not mention Return to Oz -...
I would like to politely invite you to go fuck yourself.
I'm mentioning it. I like Return to Oz. Though it is a sequel, it's a sequel to the book, and is way more faithful to Baum's material. Also, the main child character is actually played by a child (gasp!), and (most importantly) nobody breaks into fucking song!
You know what film I wouldn't mind seeing an update of? Miracle Mile. Now, I love that movie, but it is quite dated, and the limitations of that period (both in budget and technology) prevented that film from reaching its full potential. I'm thinking someone like David Koepp could write and direct, as he's handled similar themes and ideas (The Trigger Effect, which I'm also a fan of).
What say you, DiF chat?
Resident Evil is in need of a serious reboot.
maybe something, I don't know, closer to the games?
Tysto and I actually recently did a commentary for the first film in that series. It'll be out on October 3rd at his site.
I am one of those rare beings who actually likes the film and the games as separate forms of entertainment. I was very surprised when Milla Jovovich announced on her Twitter feed that she was packing to travel for the next film's shoot.
I would be curious to see another take on the material, closer to the events of the game. I read George Romero's original script for Resident Evil. Not bad, but I get why the studios decided not to run with it.
I'd imagine someone like James Gunn could do well with it, although the second game (which takes place in a police precinct) is my favorite in the series, so I'd rather see that.
I wanted to bring that up, especially because of your comments in the chat, which didn't go unnoticed. (That all sounds more ominous than I mean, I'm just saying I wanted to hash that out with you because I was a seein' what you were a sayin.')
I might have the wrong brain in my head for what we should call a commentary, but they've never really been...commentary-commentaries, in my mind, they've never been truly meant to be listened along with the movie. At least not for a while, not since the early teen episodes, where we learned nobody actually did that. It's been conversation on a theme - the movie of the week - and usually tangents on that theme as well. So when we go off on a conversation about what Planet Terror is and how it succeeds, and what Death Proof is and how it does or doesn't, that seems to me just as interesting and related, and not to mention semi-required context building for other comments we'll make about the movie itself.
Now, if this was a commentary-commentary, that kind of thing would be ridiculous, but as the show is almost always a podcast for 99% of the audience, it works for me and I let it go that way if the tangent is interesting. Theory talk, abstract talk, what IS Planet Terror DOING, and what else has done that.
I guess me question is...no? Not this? In your opinion?
I get what you're saying. Don't get me wrong, the discussion was still good, just misplaced, let's say. During the Tarantino and Death Proof talk, I kept thinking, "Gosh, this is great stuff, but it would make a hell of a lot more sense to be going on DURING Death Proof." When you guys get around to Death Proof, now my concern is going to be for repetition and redundancy, like, "They said all of this already, during that other movie that isn't this one."
And then of course there's the talk about the Western genre and various movies in it, which for me felt more appropriate for an Intermission podcast, or an actual Western movie, but I digress. Just like Zarban, I also try to watch the movie while listening to the commentary, save for a few exceptions (Phantom Menace, Hook, Monster's Inc., Galaxy Quest, The Princess Bride, Wanted, Harry Potter and A Few Good Men). Given that a movie only runs for so long and certain scenes play out that warrants discussion (which serves to justify watching the movie while you're talking), time is of the essence. I mean, if it's just going to be more of a theme-based discussion and less scene-specific, then why do a running commentary at all? Why not just do a casual, weekly movie review show?
SHAMELESS PLUG! http://www.geekshow.us/category/content … -geekshow/
All this is to say I ultimately enjoyed the episode. It's not like I'm saying it should be scrapped and redone. Not at all. I just personally prefer commentaries to have more focus on the material that's being viewed.
To paraphrase a line from Ghostbusters: "Don't cross your eyes. Crossing your eyes would be bad. Very, very bad."
Translation: There's a reason your eyes hurt after doing that and you have focusing issues. Your body is telling you something. Specifically, "Ow, quit it!"
I swear by Scarlett Johansson's ass, I was working on this BEFORE Project Halp and the DiF vid were a thing!
I hope you like it:
Pass it on if you do.
I strongly recommend Christopher Smith's, Triangle (released on DVD in 2010, thus making it my favorite film of that year, stealing the top spot from Inception).
I also suggest Ti West's, House of the Devil. It's a delightful throwback to horror movies of the early 80s'. It's shot on 16mm film stock and even has old school credits.
You could also do the original Fright Night from 1985, seeing as how the remake just happened. You've also not done a vampire film yet, and this one has lots of great creature FX from Richard Edlund.
OH! How about Michael Dougherty's horror anthology epic, Trick r' Treat?!
EDITED TO ADD: The Monster Squad, Scream, The Evil Dead, Cloverfield, Deep Rising and The Fog (it's weird that you guys haven't done more Carpenter films than just The Thing).
EDITED TO ADD: Splinter, Gore Verbinski's The Ring, Pet Semetary 1 & 2 (isn't it about time for Trey's stories to be in their proper context?), Slither (Fillion!), Identity and Clive Barker's Hellraiser.
A bit wonky in places, but when the discussion would get back on point, it resulted in some fun, interesting conversation. Nice work, DiF and guest.
I had a feeling you would pick the only two Shyamalan films I haven't seen.
I guess we can at least agree he USED TO have something, but then lost it, apparently.
Actually, I think Shyamalan is a solid director. It's the WRITING I wish he would leave in more capable hands.
In regards to Tarantino as an actor, he's just one of those personalities who is going to come out in a role no matter what, so it's better to just let him play to that. I thought he was delightfully creepy in From Dusk Till Dawn. Also, though he is playing a slight variation of himself, I think he's really good as Chester in Four Rooms: The Man From Hollywood. His monologue at the bar, when he's laying out the money is quite captivating and charismatic, in my opinion.
My submission for this thread (not sure if it's been said already) is Nathan Fillion as Captain Malcolm Reynolds. Some of the best work he's done, so far.
Somewhere around 19 to 20 minutes into this episode, the sound drops out for a stretch. Mike starts to bring up Shaun of the Dead and then, static.
Ah, yes. Right. The game Telephone strikes again. I remember that back story now. I guess just over time, it became twisted into my mistaken interpretation.
At 00:40:35, Chris says something like, "Oh come on! If you haven't watched Buffy by now, you're not going to!" He couldn't be more wrong: http://www.potentialcast.com.
These are called Introcasts. I recently started one with a group of friends for Arrested Development. We're watching for the first time and that show came and went how many years ago?
Back to Kill Bill: Volume 2. I don't know if this is true, but I read/heard somewhere that Pei Mei is voiced by Quentin. I don't think it sounds like him, but the audio could have been tweaked to hide it. Maybe those of you more familiar with Gordon Liu's voice than I can tell me for certain if that's the case or not.
I also remember something about Esteban being originally written for Harvey Keitel, but he was unable to play the part due to scheduling conflicts.
Though the fight with Elle is fantastic and the scenes at the end with Bill contain some of Quentin's best writing, I think I prefer Volume One. It's much more focused and doesn't drag as I feel this one does. Mostly, I don't buy Budd as a member of DeVAS, pretty much at all. When we see him at his day job, he's a big wuss who lets his boss walk all over him. This is especially problematic since it's more or less his true introduction to the audience. I have trouble shaking that first impression, and his getting the drop on The Bride feels more like luck to me than strategy and cunning.
All that aside, I'm still looking forward to The Whole Bloody Affair. I bet these movies play much better in their initial form. Do we know if things will play out more chronologically, so we can go down the hit list properly? I'd like to see that.
I would also like to put in a vote for Cube. I find it very creative, refreshing and resourceful. Plus I just think it's a really good Horror film with some unsettling ideas and disturbing character developments.
I'm actually one of the few people who likes the sequels. I feel they have merits of their own. The second film (Hypercube) does some interesting things within that universe and has a lot of fun with time, spacial relations and quantum mechanics. The third film (Cube Zero, which is actually a prequel but should be viewed last to fully appreciate/understand it) is bizarre and occasionally silly, but it's meant to be. It has this great, off-kilter Terry Gilliam sensibility to it.
So yeah, that's my two cents on the matter. DiF should cover at least the first one, then decide if somewhere down the pipe whether or not to tackle the rest.
The video portion was really stylish, but maybe TOO stylish. It's hard to even see what's going on in the movie at times.
THIS.
It feels a bit too "busy". Oddly dark, too but perhaps that's more an issue on my end? I second the notion of having more than one sample video of collected clips (what's really creepy about this vid is the fact that I've been tinkering with the idea of making a sampler vid for Sofa Dogs to put up on YouTube for the past few weeks now!).
It also just occurred to me that some sort of warning about strong language and possibly offensive material might be a good idea, either on the main page or in the video itself, or both (like Zarban, starting off with the Columbine quote was kind of startling, even though I'd heard it before).
You know what else might help? Listing the movie title of the clip somewhere on the screen. Not only does it provide important context and info for those that might be unable to make out what they're seeing (either due to an unclear picture like me, or maybe it went by too fast), it also might get someone curious to check out a title they've not seen before (What the hell was that? Wait, they made a remake of The Blob?! Was that SHAWNEE SMITH?! Awesome!).
Okay, as for the layout and functionality of the new, overall look, I like it! I'm using Chrome, but it's late and my eyes are bloodshot, so I'll tinker with the buttons and features after much-needed nap time.
"I'm finished!"
Coincidentally, Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill ended up being the ones I pulled from the most, with 14 and 15 samples, respectively.
I'm going back through Kill Bill now, so expect that to be added to my report shortly.
The Prestige
00:12:30 - 00:13:45 Eddie on Christian Bale's fine acting.
00:44:30 - 00:44:58 Eddie praises the editing. Teague on "not killing the bird". Brian mentions "Save the cat".
00:52:05 - 00:53:09 Brian on his big problem with the movie, regarding the "magic bean". SPOILER!
01:01:39 - 01:02:36 Brian expands on his "magic bean" issue, leading to "Hollywood vs. Indie". SPOILER!
01:06:09 - 01:07:16 Trey on the importance of "The Pitch". SPOILER!
01:10:39 - 01:11:23 Trey and Eddie heart the art direction. "Meanwhile, the sun went nova outside".
01:13:50 - 01:14:28 Teague on the consistent quality of Nolan's work. Eddie brings up "Mise en scene".
01:35:08 - 01:37:26 Brian's "magic bean" argument reaches its apex.
01:55:03 - 01:56:19 Teague attempts to define what a Director's work says about them as a person.
Alien Resurrection
00:13:52 - 00:16:29 "Wonky Movie Science" regarding cloning and why re-introducing Ripley is a bad idea.
00:29:14 - 00:29:49 Mike attempts an impression of the French director, but it comes out German.
00:36:31 - 00:37:52 Eddie yells at the movie for being obvious, while Matt reveals Sigourney's 3 objectives for Ripley.
00:43:46 - 00:44:31 Eddie wishes this was Firefly. Teague compares it to a Michael Bay film, unsuccessfully.
00:53:14 - 00:55:29 Teague asks how to fix the movie's unsympathetic characters. Mike brings up "save the cat". Eddie recalls the earned sympathy of the previous films. SPOILER!
00:59:25 - 00:59:46 Mike declares if Santa Claus showed up, the movie would become interesting and gain a much-needed protagonist.
01:18:15 - 01:19:20 Eddie is a Relentless Hate Machine.
01:21:31 - 01:22:02 Eddie rants about a random spider onscreen.
01:23:26 - 01:24:22 "Oh by the way, I bleed milk". SPOILER!
01:36:16 - 01:36:47 "This is so fucking stupid!!!"
Twilight
00:16:51 - 00:18:13 Mike points out the protagonist is also the damsel in distress. Teague points out "Baby Edward Norton".
00:21:49 - 00:22:24 Mike replaces Edward with a mop.
00:27:47 - 00:28:57 Book Bella vs. Movie Bella. Eddie calls her a cunt.
00:30:36 - 00:31:07 Mike is frustrated by Bella's stupidity when it comes to Edward's danger factor.
00:39:03 - 00:40:30 A page of Twilight inked on to a human back.
00:50:35 - 00:52:12 The Mary Sue (or, The Bella Swan).
01:22:04 - 01:23:23 Eddie talks about how the vampire mythos has been whitewashed.
01:25:48 - 01:26:29 "Dawson's Creek would have been so much better if Joey was a fucking vampire!"
01:40:03 - 01:41:06 Teague mistakes a gay guy covered in glitter as a Twilight fanatic.
01:53:11 - 01:53:40 "I'm gonna rape the rape out of her!"
Pulp Fiction
00:13:09 - 00:15:01 Saving the cat without actually having to "save the cat".
00:23:44 - 00:24:33 Trey talks about "The McGuffin".
00:34:44 - 00:35:10 "This is Panda from Mexico. You are SO on drugs."
00:38:28 - 00:40:16 "Tokes n' Stokes!"
01:13:27 - 01:14:24 Bruce Willis and the importance of the watch.
01:27:21 - 01:27:40 "There are many ways to save the cat, and the cat likes that one the best".
01:27:57 - 01:28:34 The start of the Bruce Willis Penis Meme.
01:30:37 - 01:32:50 The rest of it.
01:37:19 - 01:37:24 "John Pavlich is gonna tell us a story."
01:37:57 - 01:38:28 The story. My favorite part, for obvious reasons.
01:45:13 - 01:45:55 Pulp Fiction/Harry Potter crossover fan fiction.
02:03:00 - 02:03:57 Trey talking about how the structure creates unpredictable tension.
02:09:37 - 02:10:20 The reality of California traffic and geography.
02:18:42 - 02:19:21 "I don't know anyone in The Valley, except four friends in my head!" SPOILER!
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark
00:11:53 - 00:12:11 Alfred Molina and the Orgy of Spiders.
00:17:39 - 00:18:21 George Lucas and the Brown Guides of Peru.
00:29:50 - 00:30:11 Marian Ravenwood and the Spoiler of Death.
00:34:05 - 00:34:27 John Landis and the Dangers of Cocaine.
00:37:45 - 00:39:03 Mike Scott and the Structure of Serials.
00:48:03 - 00:49:09 Harrison Ford and the Inflammation of the Colon.
01:00:23 - 01:01:29 Brian Finifter and the Power of the Hat.
01:05:30 - 01:07:12 Trey Stokes and the God of the Machine.
01:19:01 - 01:20:19 Steven Spielberg and the Expense of the Action.
01:31:21 - 01:32:29 Sean Connery and the Death of the Film Career.
01:49:09 - 01:50:10 Teague Chrystie and the Fly in the Mouth.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
00:10:28 - 00:10:43 American films vs. European films.
00:19:49 - 00:21:37 Fifties sensibilities.
00:32:21 - 00:32:40 Fifties sensibilites, the revenge.
00:59:42 - 01:00:42 "That's a well-behaved Pod."
01:09:37 - 01:10:10 Trey on what film school can do to a person.
01:14:11 - 01:15:00 Punchable doors.
01:26:25 - 01:27:18 "Pod people don't believe in mobbing." SPOILER!
The Frighteners: Director's Cut
00:16:43 - 00:17:55 The one Gothic element and the struggle with tone.
00:31:30 - 00:33:34 "Fuck you, Rick Baker!"
00:45:37 - 00:46:18 "B-word fat."
00:59:40 - 01:00:50 Using crazy to sell exposition and Trey does Obi-Wan.
01:05:45 - 01:06:18 "Damn, we're funny!"
01:16:55 - 01:17:22 Trey on pacing issues with the Director's Cut.
01:44:22 - 01:44:57 Serial killing as an art form. SPOILER!
01:48:42 - 01:48:59 "Movies talk to you?" SPOILER!
01:58:25 - 01:59:15 The opacity of Jake Busey and missing Brian Finifter. SPOILER!
Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
00:19:27 - 00:22:44 Trey Stokes vs. The Waveform.
00:38:30 - 00:39:10 Mike Scott vs. The Dating Thing.
00:45:48 - 00:47:50 Brian Finifter vs. The Wonderland.
00:57:50 - 01:00:11 Teague Chrystie vs. Popular Opinion.
01:02:55 - 01:04:12 Brian Finifter vs. The Metaphor.
01:04:29 - 01:05:41 Down In Front vs. The Chat Room.
01:08:16 - 01:10:07 Mike Scott vs. The Plot vs. The Story.
01:15:20 - 01:16:35 Brian Finifter vs. The Details.
01:21:21 - 01:23:23 Trey Stokes vs. The Ocarina of Time.
01:46:05 - 01:47:21 Mike Scott vs. The Mind Control Chip. SPOILER!
02:01:00 - 02:02:59 Mike Scott vs. Selection Bias. SPOILER!
02:08:00 - 02:10:08 Mike Scott vs. Geek Culture. My favorite part.
Pitch Black: Director's Cut
00:08:58 - 00:11:14 "Trey's got a girlfriend."
00:26:51 - 00:27:25 Perverted save the cat?
00:31:38 - 00:32:28 Vin Diesel Meme.
00:44:14 - 00:44:49 "Richard B. Riddick, Attorney At Law."
00:55:55 - 00:56:57 Vin Diesel's real name.
01:13:05 - 01:14:35 "It's an animal thing."
01:16:00 - 01:17:26 Pitching Pitch Black.
01:24:46 - 01:25:53 Quibbling.
01:31:00 - 01:32:01 Danny Trejo.
01:45:32 - 01:46:00 "Richard B. Riddick, Ph. D."
Kill Bill: Volume One
00:04:00 - 00:04:19 Comparing Tarantino's films to specific drugs.
00:10:56 - 00:11:22 Black and white vs. color.
00:13:20 - 00:14:39 Tarantino's earnestness and "spice".
00:17:20 - 00:19:17 Zoe Bell and stunts.
00:19:46 - 00:22:25 "Chaos Cinema"
00:24:45 - 00:26:30 Movies Brian hates, re: non-linear structure.
00:30:58 - 00:32:36 Trey defines, "save the cat". Also, "Teague's law of sympathy".
00:36:07 - 00:36:40 Trope: "Convenient Coma".
00:43:50 - 00:45:20 "It's about characters".
01:02:54 - 01:06:59 Slicing a baseball and catching an arrow, re: Mythbusters.
01:08:44 - 01:10:15 Lucy Liu, and the symmetry of eyes and faces.
01:13:27 - 01:14:19 Trope: "Gratuitous English".
01:25:08 - 01:26:37 "Quentin never lets you forget you're watching a movie!"
01:43:03 - 01:44:36 "Kill Billy" and different kinds of action.
01:47:52 - 01:48:21 "Best trip to Okinawa EVER!" SPOILER!
That place seems to be accruing tenants at an alarming rate!
I'd be happy to take on the following:
39. The Prestige
66. Alien Resurrection (especially since I have a big chunk of it already transcribed over at Whedonesque, anyway)
97. Twilight
98. Pulp Fiction
100. Raiders of The Lost Ark
103. Invasion of The Body Snatchers
106. The Frighteners: Director's Cut
107. Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
108. Pitch Black
The caption for this episode over on the main page of the site made me literally laugh out loud....hard. Thank you for that!
That's not a framing device, that's in media res or according to TVtropes, How We Got Here. And, in my opinion, it's a cheap hook and lazy writing.
It's basically the writer saying, "I can't be bothered to think up an interesting opening that establishes what I need to establish, so here's the climax right up front."
I feel like Brian is being especially finicky here...Finifter? Finicky?...Brian "Science!" Finicker!
To me, this isn't lazy. Cheap is subjective. A hook? Sure, but so what? A hook never hurt anyone (except maybe fish. HEY-O!). In any case, I feel this is just another way of telling your story. It's part of the language. Both Memento and Inception open at their climax/ending, essentially (as does The Prestige, now that I think about it. Heh, how amusing). There are a number of television shows that use this device as well. In fact, there are specific programs (sadly, no titles come to mind to help illustrate my point, but it's late and I'm tired) that format their entire run this way (start late in the story, then backtrack and build up to it).
EDITED TO ADD: Grounded For Life was one of the examples I was trying to think of.
INCEPTION!? Holy fuck! YES!!!!
I've seen only 2 movies in IMAX. Fantasia 2000, and this. Tomorrow can't get here soon enough. Even if for some reason you guys hate the movie, I'm still going to enjoy myself because I know you'll bring your A game!
This! This is what the Zombieland commentary should have been; An intelligent, objective examination of a movie I enjoy. Even though I think the movie works, I can greatly appreciate this commentary because the criticisms are constructive and valid. Great work, guys!
I could be mistaken, but a few times, you guys seem to imply that Short Round first met Indy at the top of the movie. Based on the way they talk to each other (He knows to call Indy "Dr. Jones", for example), I was always under the impression they were already established friends before this movie begins. Am I missing some important exchange in the picture (that's right, I said picture) that disproves this?
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