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(15 replies, posted in Episodes)

maul2 wrote:

Alright, I need something confirmed by those much smarter than I.

One of my teachers at school started randomly talking about Fight Club and brought up the fact that the sex scene was done completely digitally...to which I replied with a wonderfully blank stare.

I could see why they would do it digitally, but I have no clue if it's true.

Any one have any ideas?

Fincher loved him some projection mapping in that movie. It's not "completely digital" but it's manufactured from hundreds of still photos mapped on to geometry through photogrammetry and stuff. Each set up is essentially a 3D model they swing a camera around.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the- … 154343840#
EDIT: link borked. Show 52, line 56.

The episodes done relatively recently as a look back to the film. They talk about all kinds of aspects of the movie, and I'm pretty sure the sex scene is mentioned.

DOUBLE EDIT: Guess I was replying to an earlier instance of the thread before everyone said the same thing I did. D'oh.

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(56 replies, posted in Episodes)

Gun on the mantle: Chekov
Bomb under the table: Hitchcock
Gun under the table: Greedo
Bomb on the mantle: >THROUGH THE NORTH DOOR

653

(27 replies, posted in Off Topic)

downinfront wrote:

I think Eddie is perfectly mixed as is.

Martially mixed?

654

(11 replies, posted in Creations)

Neat piece. An easy way to improve for future projects that involve digital sets is to consider production design a little more throughly. Everything on screen should have a logic and purpose. Full CG spaceship interiors are really hard, in that to do it right the entire environment needs to be realized from the ground up. For example, If that's the scientist's workstation, there would probably be a chair, or at least a stool around somewhere. Dirty the floors, and scuff it near said movable furniture. The alien tubes probably would not have a random distribution throughout the room, but rather grouped together in a specific section of the lab, perhaps with little consoles on each with readouts similar to the hologram bay/desk.

As Gregory flippantly mentioned, V has the same problem - a massive interior of a spaceship that's really clean and ambient occlusion-y with huge halls that serve only to serve three people walking from one end to the other to give the damn thing scale. Details and considerations like that echo up and down your production.

Zarban wrote:

However, nice grainy black and white camera, inept fake cameraman from the future.

O, the elaborate conceits of spaceship thefts. Works out when that ineptitude (and intensely antiquated camera) is a story point.

Liked it a whole lot, and even more once I knew what the hell was going on. Sound design rocks hard.

656

(11 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Yeah, absolutely. It's a tremendous, face-melting, Herculean accomplishment. Since it's not properly released yet, guess I'm more inclined to talk about what it means rather than what it is. Cuz spoilers?

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(11 replies, posted in Off Topic)

It's easy to say that, but it's a naive statement. It's show business. Film is a profligate art form. What are the reported budgets/grosses for your top 10 favorite films?

When you start introducing more money, the stakes change dramatically and there's a huge influx of things that can cloud and dilute the intended artistic vision. There are a lot more people, jobs, and investments that count on a movie to make bank.

For example, imagine your film is acquired, and what you considered to be some of the most intense and visceral moments in your whole movie need to be yanked and cut around since the studio needs to get a rating down to PG-13 to offset the tremendous advertising campaign they're throwing behind your work.

Something like Monsters manages to short this out by keeping the operating costs so low, that no matter what, the profit is guaranteed with a wide enough release. It's uncompromising, operating out of its financial weight class, and fucking awesome.

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(11 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Saw it at the LA Film Festival a couple months ago. Nothing's made me as excited for the future of what indie movies can be than that film.

Talked to Gareth for a bit after a screening - one of the most interesting things he mentioned was  the insane schizophrenic relationship you develop with yourself when you're directing and doing all the effects on something, where you can't really externalize the forces cutting favorite shots and sequences, or demanding 20 hour days for months straight.

Benefits of working at that scale though, is that you're more or less guaranteed success and with minimal involvement. Some people were commenting that they couldn't wait to see him make a movie with a serious budget, but I think that's totally missing the point. Such a beautiful, intimate movie with those kinds of closing scenes would never exist with a 7+ figure budget.

659

(41 replies, posted in Episodes)

Curious to hear how vitriolic a commentary Synecdoche would get, since it fingerbangs structure and dramatic narrative as hard as it does.

(But well, and for the right reasons. Biased. A favorite film.)

660

(23 replies, posted in Off Topic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQmvkvgMs6Q

Biggest DUDE GOTTA SEE reaction in forever.

maul2 wrote:

But I mean honestly, you had me at Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis do ballet.

....and at least make out really hard.

661

(62 replies, posted in Off Topic)

When talking to people in real life that like a movie a lot more than you did, you get a lot of chances to refine exactly what it was that I wished there was more of. So in one sentence.

The dreams didn't need to be more wack exactly, but as a heist film, I feel like the movie failed to capitalize on the collide between the exacting logistics required of the heist, and the volatility of the subconscious.

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(24 replies, posted in Episodes)

Zarban wrote:

"Sartre" and "Camus". But I'll give you the douche points anyway. I've got plenty.

I either went for the worst-little-existentialist multiplier on my douche points or tried for an elaborate, "It doesn't matter, maaaannnnn!" setup.

I'll let you pick.

663

(24 replies, posted in Episodes)

The guys get to the point early on, and get to how the movie supports the point, that it's okay. The ep didn't go so far as to invoke Sartre and Camus so I will, if for no other reason than to earn my douche points for the day:

Sartre, "Existentialism is a Humanism" wrote:

You have seen that [existentialism] cannot be regarded as a philosophy of quietism since it defines man by his action; nor as a pessimistic description of man, for no doctrine is more optimistic, the destiny of man is placed within himself. Nor is it an attempt to discourage man from action since it tells him that there is no hope except in his action, and that the one thing which permits him to have life is the deed. Upon this level therefore, what we are considering is an ethic of action and self-commitment.

Camus, "The Myth of Sisyphus" wrote:

All Sisyphus' silent joy is contained therein. His fate belongs to him. His rock is a thing. Likewise, the absurd man, when he contemplates his torment, silences all the idols. In the universe suddenly restored to its silence, the myriad wondering little voices of the earth rise up. Unconscious, secret calls, invitations from all the faces, they are the necessary reverse and price of victory. There is no sun without shadow, and it is essential to know the night. The absurd man says yes and his efforts will henceforth be unceasing. If there is a personal fate, there is no higher destiny, or at least there is, but one which he concludes is inevitable and despicable. For the rest, he knows himself to be the master of his days. At that subtle moment when man glances backward over his life, Sisyphus returning toward his rock, in that slight pivoting he contemplates that series of unrelated actions which become his fate, created by him, combined under his memory's eye and soon sealed by his death. Thus, convinced of the wholly human origin of all that is human, a blind man eager to see who knows that the night has no end, he is still on the go. The rock is still rolling.

TLDR: Jeff you say that like its a bad thing, lul.

I've heard the track on either the second or third Resident Evil movie is just Milla Jovovich and friends getting drunk and apologizing.

The commentaries on the Venture Bros DVDs are amazing. They tend to have almost nothing to do with the episodes, but you get a sense of what it's like when the two driving creative personalities behind the show are locked together for months at a time producing one of the best things on television. They only did a couple for the first season, but the response was so overwhelmingly positive that they've done a commentary for every episode on every season since. I get the episodes on iTunes, but buy the discs afterwards particularly for their tracks.

The Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut DVD has one that flips between the executive producer, vfx supervisor, and the 1st AD. Never heard a first AD on a commentary before, but that should happen more often. Had a bunch of great stories from production, and didn't have to worry about offending anybody since he wasn't up near the line. Also didn't mind talking shit about his own work, like in scenes where all the extras are walking at the same speed or something.

666

(64 replies, posted in Episodes)

Awesome indeed.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Reagan_and_Gorbachev_hold_discussions.jpg

667

(26 replies, posted in Off Topic)

One third of a gopher would only arouse my appetite...


Started watching The Neverending Story months ago (it was conspicuously absent from my childhood). Would catch pieces of it here and there, with reactions ranging from "Whoa that's quite a matte painting" to "Giant puppet!"

Just finished off the movie and the final fifteen minutes last night. Whoa damn, the Empress' performance when she pulls that wacko third and fourth wall thing made the movie. Kind of glad I hadn't seen it until now, wouldn't have appreciated that as much, and probably wouldn't have ever revisited the film.

668

(28 replies, posted in Episodes)

Haven't seen either, but Burden of Dreams is supposed to be a great documentary on the production of Herzog's Fitzcarraldo, a film that spent it's entire production teetering on the brink of failure.

Apparently at one point, some locals approached Herzog asking permission to literally kill the star of the film, as they found his actions so repulsive and disrespectful.

669

(301 replies, posted in Episodes)

It's too rooted too deeply in marketing and too far from theme to be any sort of homage, so it feels more like a rip off.

In contrast, the Sucker Punch trailer has a couple of allusions to Brazil with Baby Doll fighting giant samurai with miniguns, naginata and shit. Both dreamy sequences, so it works.

670

(301 replies, posted in Episodes)

Speaking of dogs and unrelated tangents, this bothers me.

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2009/04/mad-max-2jpg.jpeg

http://students.cup.edu/hou2669/Iamlegend.jpg

671

(62 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Branco wrote:

I'm surprised that everyone is getting so worked up about the last shot. Does it really matter?  The character arc is over. Dream or not, he's clearly happy.

Secondly, the freight train was accomplished by covering an 18-wheeler with a train prop. Fucking. Awesome.

I also felt nothing for the characters. Couldn't care who lived or died before the last 20 minutes of the movie (aside from Joseph Gordon-Levitt on account of his being so sharply dressed).


- Branco

The end is Nolan's little, "Reality is always subjective, motherfuckers! Thank you and good night!" thematic coda, but some are mistaking it for something deeply relevant to the story since it is the last shot of the film.

672

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Scientifically speaking, you can only get like 50 minutes into Tron before it devolves into the occasional "huh, neat" and "wtf does this have to do with anything"

673

(62 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Can't wait to read this movie's ASC article. Wouldn't be surprised if they used a mix of hip harnesses with those uncomfortable chest harnesses you can't breathe in just to keep it even less obvious.

At one point I thought they might have dressed the inside of a vomit comet to look like the hallway and just started doing nose dives for some of the fighting shots. The proportions could have worked.


And yeah, the Buffalo guy is being a bit of a dick for dick's sake. I tend to agree with the critic from the Boston Globe, and I dig his closing remarks about the film:

Wesley Morris wrote:

One of the best things about Nolan as a director is that he’s not self-conscious. His movies unfold and fold in on themselves without the strain of labor or flash. But that lack of self-consciousness is also Nolan’s downside. While “Inception’’ grows more complicated, it doesn’t gather substance. You feel the movie gliding, floating forward or down, but the depths feel only directional, never psychological. The many layers turn out to be an arrangement of surfaces. We’re not inside a mind so much as an enormous boutique.

Full review

674

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Dead Man! Johnny Depp running around in the best anti-Western Western ever killing white guys with his new best friend, an exiled Native American with a total boner for 18th century English poetry. And an improvised Neil Young soundtrack.

The Fall! Kind of like if Grandpa from Princess Bride was paralyzed from a fall stunt gone wrong and tried to get Fred Savage to bring him enough drugs to kill himself by spinning a tale about bandits, evil governors, and Charles Darwin.

675

(62 replies, posted in Off Topic)

SPOILS, DOY.

Whether or not he's dreaming at the end is irrelevant to Cobb's arc and the entire story. He's conquered his emotional demons and let his wife go.

The top at the end rings a little bit of the "What's actually real huh??" question that killed his wife in the first place, but that conversation happened like ten minutes earlier. It's a distracting last second macguffin.

There is so much to like in this movie, not sure why I'm having such mixed feelings on certain things. This tops the summer-movie scale the same way The Dark Knight topped the superhero scale: by delivering a great film in a field of tremendously diminished expectations, a field where the normal distribution peaks around "not terrible I guess."

Something, somewhere in the film should have gone more fantastic. The hallway stuff was really cool, but then maybe a chase along the edge of a city maze during gravity shifts so there's huge jumps over, under, and through Escher rooftops and fire escapes, with baddies getting Matrix-glitched down alleys or our heros running up a a flight of stairs to seemingly fall through and cliffhang the next step. Fuck with our heads visually, or show more of the insanity in the human subconscious through character interactions if the worlds have to be so logically coherent and orthogonal. Most of the effects work was wonderful (except explodey fruit stands... oof), but Nolan and Pfister's insistence to capture most stuff in camera may have kept them a little too close to reality.

Also more Paprika.


http://existentialmedia.org/ladyparts/files/ladyparts/images/2007/07/for_you_and_your_lady_parts/paprika_web.jpg