Should I point out that Robocop has already been not just two live action TV shows, but two cartoons for kids? What everyone is describing happened within weeks of the first movie turning a profit. Everyone should just assume they're adapting the 1988 Saturday morning cartoon and be done with it smile

As a side note, I'm no Frank Miller fan but I love this quote of what he learned doing the scripts for the second and third movies: “Don’t be the writer. The director’s got the power. The screenplay is a fire hydrant, and there’s a row of dogs around the block waiting for it.”

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fireproof78 wrote:
BigDamnArtist wrote:
Zarban wrote:

And as social commentary, it kind of says "Look, these are irredeemable people, most of them. They really just need somewhere positive to channel their energy."

If all they need is a positive place to channel their energy, doesn't that mean they are basically redeemable?

Yeah, that's my question...

It depends. If someone REALLY likes dismembering living things, whether they want to be dismembered or not, and you find them a job where they can get most of that out of their system legally, have they been redeemed, or just had their evil redirected?

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I have a new story started, about Medieval Polish soldiers fighting elves among other things. I also, for my Patreon.com page, made up a little video.

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(72 replies, posted in Episodes)

Maybe Swede guys with guns manage to reproduce more smile

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Cotterpin Doozer wrote:
Squiggly_P wrote:

Instead of seeing some character sacrifice themselves at the end of the film, that sacrifice happens before the film starts, and you get to see the ramifications of that sacrifice and it's effects on his family.

The character the audience would most expect to be the hero of the story dies before the opening credits, and so the focus falls on his grieving widow and her efforts to save her family. There aren't many characters like Mrs. Brisby, who is so clearly afraid throughout the whole movie, but still manages to do what must be done. I like it when my heroines and heroes are vulnerable and capable of making mistakes.

You never see a character's mother alive in a children's tale, let alone have an active role. One reason I had no problem with Brave. "Mom is right" is such a refreshing thing for kids to take away from a story.

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I posted three movies in the other thread, but I'm to old to have grown up on movies like you guys. No VCR until I was half done with high school, no cable until a few years after that. I'd see a movie in the theater once, then maybe get the novelization and that was it. Movies on TV tended to be at least a decade old. That said,

1. The Cowboys (1972)
2. King Kong (1933)
3. Any of the early Marx Brothers films

Now, if we're talking TV, then that's easier:

1.Land of the Lost (original)
2.Star Trek
3. Star Blazers

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We did not get a VCR until I was in high school, and cable waited until a few years after that (pay for TV? Not in this house!). So, movies I actually saw more than once in those formative years were restricted to what managed to be played on local TV on the weekends. I'd say The Cowboys, King Kong, and maybe one of the early Marx Brothers films. More than those, though, the TV series Star Blazers defines my childhood. I lived that show for all of 4th grade.

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(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

So, no release this week?

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(62 replies, posted in Episodes)

And/or a slash fanfic.

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Original title page from Omaha the Cat Dancer

http://www.asstr.org/~Invid_Fan/_Media/kgrhqzhjfufghylkbrosdm6zgw6_med.jpeg

I have it for auction on eBay, to pay for my new computer, but I'm kind of glad nobody is willing to pay the price smile

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Try different drugs

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I remember going to a Trek convention back in the TNG days, and we were given the good news that the next Tekwars book would have the same ghost author as the last one smile

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There are two things I wish, with regard to The Wizard of Oz. One, for someone to do an adaptation that follows the later books (even Return to Oz insisted on having Dorothy involved in the events of the second book, instead of the "boy who would be queen"). Second, I'd love to see a production of the original OZ musical. For those who don't know, the author made most of his money not from the books, but from a four hour musical that has lots of dancing girls and very little to do with the original plot. MGM almost just did an adaptation of that, before deciding to go back to the book, but many of the staging elements they came up with were used in the film and it's the reason it is a musical.

You can read the script here: http://static.nypl.org/MOTM/Oz/Oz.pdf

The second book was written with the intent that it become a play, which is why there are armies of women who could double as dancing girls. The second stage play he DID write flopped, so he recycled it into one of the later books.

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That's the thing. It's "self powered", the ideal transportation system. Might it work? Sure. But, something that seems too good to be true probably is. Show me the demo, not the powerpoint animation smile

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One should never believe price tags given to tech that hasn't been shown to work yet. The cost almost always doubles, at the very least, and it will take far longer to get it working than first estimates. Musk's later comment that he may actually build a proof of concept could get the ball rolling, but until then any sane government is going to file this alongside perpetual motion proposals (which this almost is, with its claim to generate more power than it consumes). Listening to the Abyss commentary again last weekend, there's the part where Trey tells of the movie industry reps saying Hollywood has never invested in technology, they wait for others to get it to the point where it's useful to the industry. Local and State governments, as opposed to Federal, should probably be the same way.

So, it's an interesting idea, and maybe they should delay breaking ground on the new train for a bit to give it a chance, but nobody should green light it now. Let's see if the thing actually works.

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Naturally, unless this thing has a good song there's no way the public will pay for it.

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"Seven" could be a perfectly good title for a few dozen different movies, I think that's the issue. It could be seven samurai, seven virtues, seven dwarfs, seven seconds till midnight, anything.

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fireproof78 wrote:
Invid wrote:

In the book, there's a conspiracy guy in boot camp who tells our hero that this is all BS, the guys who died in training didn't die, it's all an act, etc. We never find out that's NOT true, although the implication is that the guy was just an idiot. So, by bringing up the idea in the book, the reader is able to discount it. By NOT mentioning the idea in the movie, we have to consider the idea.

Um, which part of the book? Because that doesn't sound like my version. Sounds like "Space Cadet."

It has been twenty years, so it is possible. Is that the one where he builds his own spacesuit? smile

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fireproof78 wrote:
Invid wrote:

29. Did I mention the only black guy who got more than one line died and the black lady got serious acid burn?

Isn't the Sky Marshall black?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090729005515/starshiptroopers/images/thumb/f/fe/Vlcsnap-105257.png/185px-Vlcsnap-105257.png

That was a guy?

For those who don't know, the author of that list, Cronan Thompson, was a USENET poster who passed away in 1999 at age 19. In tribute, Robert Wolf named a character in the pilot of the TV series Andromeda after him, killing him off first because Cronan was always pointing out the black guy is the first to die.

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In the book, there's a conspiracy guy in boot camp who tells our hero that this is all BS, the guys who died in training didn't die, it's all an act, etc. We never find out that's NOT true, although the implication is that the guy was just an idiot. So, by bringing up the idea in the book, the reader is able to discount it. By NOT mentioning the idea in the movie, we have to consider the idea.

I'm not sure I like where this brave new world is taking us.

Microsoft has apparently bought the new remake of Blake's 7 to "air" exclusively on Xbox Live. This is different then Netflix or HBO creating a show. If I want to watch something they create, I can subscribe to the service, or buy a copy later. The show is simply behind a small pay wall, and I can enjoy it with almost any device. What Microsoft seems to be doing, though, is putting the show behind a $300+ pay wall. The show becomes like a game, and the fact a Halo show will also be an exclusive isn't a coincidence (Halo originally was to be a Mac game, before Microsoft bought Bungie and made the game Xbox only). Want to play a Zelda game? Buy a Nintendo game system. Want to watch Blake's 7? Buy an X-box. Given the point is to push hardware sales, there almost can't be eventual DVD or iTunes/Netflix versions. That would defeat the entire point.

Now I have to hope the remake sucks, as I'll never see it.

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Thighs...

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In honor of tomorrow night's live riffing of this film, I present the late Cronan Thompson's "Things I learned from Starship Troopers". http://www.cronan-memorial.com/troopers.html

1. It is a very good idea to give your troops beer in hostile territory.

2. In the future all but a very few brown people (particularly those in Buenos Aires) will leave the Terran Federation.

3. A society that will show the dismemberment of humans on camera *live* will censor the death of a cow.

4. An asteroid can cross the galaxy in about an hour.

5. You can go from private to lieutenant without ever having proven you are qualified in about an hour.

6. When a commander finds two of his soldiers in bed and needs them to perform a task he will give them time to finish.

7. Even the white population in the tropics will be uniformly light.

8. People with hispanic or asian names will be white and hispanic respectively.

9. One can join the Federal Service immediately premoted to colonel.

10. The Sky Marshall looks like my mom.

11. Plasma farts are enough to destroy starships in high orbit above a planet.

12. Or worse yet push asteroids to beyond light speed.

13. When attempting genocide against a technologically inferior foe you will not think to drop nuclear weapons more powerful than the hand weapons of your soldiers.

14. One can outrun the backwash of a nuclear grenade.

15. You will have your bombers fly approx 30 feet off the ground and drop weapons that are no stronger than a 20th century bazooka.

16. Tanks, helicopters and other support craft were eliminated by the military genius of the Terran Federation in favor of using volunteers as cannon fodder.

17. It is a *very* good idea to ignore the animosity between the pilots who drop the troops and the troops who have the guns.

18. The guns that protect Earth will be placed on the Moon in a gigantic two dimensional ring.

19. An experienced field commander will walk through a canyon with an enemy of superior numbers in the area.

20. Brains are nummeee.

21. Black leather jackets are perfect for the field.

22. Stabbing your recruits and breaking their arms is a fine way to inspire loyalty.

23. Reloading is not nessecary until there is a closeup.

24. Clips hold about 20 million rounds of ammunition.

25. In the middle of a war to save mankind you will repeatedly run into your old high scool chums.

26. After you have been stabbed through your shoulder with a giant bugs foreclaw roughly the size of a grape fruit you will be able to fire automatic weapons, use knives, swing your arms while runing and hug your buddies in a final show of comradery.

27. In a class room with interactive electronic displays on the desks students will have paper textbooks.

28. People who are missing limbs will be careful not to move the area where the limb should be through space occupied by another person.

29. Did I mention the only black guy who got more than one line died and the black lady got serious acid burn?

30. Although if the world population were to be represented 90+% of them would be non-white in the future this statistic will flip and the MI will be 90+% white.

31. Doogie's descendants are just as annoying.

32. It is possible to control an entire hostile planet without reasonable air support, some type of cavalry and a military force who carry one rifle a peice.

33. The rumbling I heard wasn't the sound. It was my stomach from the bullshit I was force fed.

34. No one bothered to teach the Rico that when your fellow soldier has been run through you do not pull out what is currently holding them together.

35. Everyone is beautiful, in the super model way.

36. It is possible to remain pretty damn clean after a hard day of battling the bugs.

37. Sweat? Who needs to sweat?

38. In the middle of a war with hundreds of thousands of casualties, the good friend/sextoy of the main character will receive a formal military funeral with scads of attendees.

39. For some odd reason, soldiers wear extensive body armor to protect everything but what they need to fight with - their hands and their eyes.

40. While you can capture the bugs and put them in cages, we cannot find ways of dropping large yield devices on them to kill them.

41. High school teachers with one arm make excellent leaders of commando units.

42. It is common military strategy to plan an invasion without even gathering intelligence first.

43. The fate of all wars rests in the actions of a few swell friends.

44. Despite an extensive defense net, no one will notice an asteroid approaching until the last possible moment.

45. Whenever you call home something bad happens.

46. Apparently being good in math equates into being able to fly a ship recklessly.

47. Futuristic space ships will have no means whatsoever of avoiding, deflecting or absorbing massive plasma balls that came from a bug's ass.

48. Gigantic bugs are apparently capable of living underground on desert worlds with no known means of nourishment.

49. Bugs are so good that they can actually break a planet's gravity pull and land on other worlds with no technology.

50. Girls actually want to make love for about ten minutes.

51. The military believes that there's nothing better to cheer up the soldiers than an electric neon violin.

52. Dixie the song will be known by Argentinean kids.

53. News logos only get cheesier.

54. Apparently half the military passed over Harvard to enlist.

55. It is a good idea to build a fort in the middle of nowhere for no apparent reason.

56. Said forts supports will be built on the outside so the enemy can attack them with ease.

57. The futuristic air force has no idea what a fuel/air bomb is.

58. Bugs give their planets cool names like Klendathu.

59. Colonels in the intelligence service command missions, experiment on bugs, and do ads.

60. Troops will use nuclear RPGs and grenades without fear of fallout or radiation.

61. If I am in the MI, I won't request cybernetic legs...I'm only allowed cybernetic arms.

62. If I am flying a drop-ship on a rescue mission, I won't use my numerous gun mounts on the invading hordes and clear out some space. I'll send my co-pilot out with an assault rifle--it makes much more sense.

"some episodes have a self-titled Tv Tropes Correspondent". Self titled? So, that wasn't an official sponsorship?

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We used to have special theaters for that...