Jumanji is an awesome candidate.
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Jumanji is an awesome candidate.
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I'm pre-psyched.
[announcer's voice]
Gentlemen, presych your engines...
Marty J wrote:Oh, the Dinobots...
Actually, if there is one part of Age of Extinction that I am excited for is the Dinobots. That was my introduction to Transformers and I found those stories far more interesting and compelling.
Can I have this version too?
I had the opportunity to see some props and costumes in Seattle from Star Wars. The models of the Y Wing, Tantive IV and Star Destroyer were probably my favorites.
And in other news:
Boter wrote:fireproof78 wrote:I also wish George Takei did more voice work as his role as the chief guardian was really well done.
I swear he does it just rarely enough to get people excited for it, on purpose. He does a lot with animated TV shows, and games; I enjoyed him in the 2003 game Freelancer, for instance.
Fly into fabulous Memphis International Airport and hear him tell you about the white zone and what not to do in it.
I'm waiting for the movie to come out
This is where Disney movies are just not for me. I remember watching Mulan in the theater when I was like 7 thinking this one might win me over and not be aimed at little children, and then it still under-cuts and underplays all the danger with the songs, and cartoony weakling "hero" soldiers, and dragon sidekick, and once again has a lame incompetent villain who's defeated too easily.
A shame cause Mulan would be an awesome female-empowerment role-model movie if they had the guts to make it even a bit more edgy. Does Mulan even kill anyone in the entire movie except the main villain?
Technically, the entire Hun army, save a couple of strays. You know, the whole avalanche thing.
I mean, maybe she kind of pulled a Batman in that she didn't kill them but didn't have to save them from the giant wall of snow either.
And, personally, I would not call Shan Yu incompetent so much as overconfident. He destroys the Imperial Army and would have destroyed Li's army as well if not for Mulan's avalanche. He works Li over pretty well too.
Yeah, it's cartoonish, especially towards the end but it strikes a balance with showing some of the darker aspects of war, as well as the lighter tone. I don't always like the humor as it can be too quippy but it carries through its theme and character arc all the way to the end.
And this just might be my point of view, but I don't think the danger is underplayed as much when they take the time to show a village burned to the ground and the dead Chinese army.
It could have been more but I still think it strikes a good balance between serious and silly with a lot of genuine humor and character moments.
She only sang for a couple moments, and the other is mostly instrumental
What I find amusing is many think Disney has always done musicals, where as most of their animated films only have one, maybe two songs.
Well, I think that "Jungle Book" really started that trend and continued on under Disney's directing and guidance. My wife pointed out that "Snow White" started it but limited in characters, making it a little less of musical. Which, I think is to your point.
Jungle Book makes a good distinction in the genre due to having multiple songs for many different characters, rather than limited to the main character(s).
As for Mulan, it would be nice to see a crossover genre of toys that is a combination of GI JOES and and Disney to create a more combat style figure. But, that is just me
Quick note on Mulan that I forgot to mention. I love the casting, despite Eddie Murphy's odd humor references at times. I think the casting is really well done, has some great chemistry, especially with Mulan and her family.
I did a quick IMDB read as I watched the movie and was surprised to read who did the voice of Mulan's father, Fa Zhu. He was played by Soon Tek Oh, who started in numerous MASH episodes on TV. His last episode featured him leaving for the States to become an actor. An example of art imitating life. I also wish George Takei did more voice work as his role as the chief guardian was really well done.
I also thought the combat was more realistic than many other animated movies. Obviously it is still unrealistic but there are some moments where you see some real combat moves that could work. I like that aspect of the film too, especially in the fact that they don't make Mulan a physical power house.
fireproof78 wrote:Indeed. I get so much out of reading the early drafts (the making of books are fantastic references for this) and seeing what plot lines go where and how things all pull together is so interesting to me. It sheds more light on to the process of creating the finished work. Star Wars has become more interesting to me the more I learn about it and the process that it took to create it.
This is why stick to the movies, I am a film buff, not a Star Wars buff, know what I mean?
You guys are talkng about stuff that I have no knowledge of, early treatments and whatever,
I have never been into that stuff with any movie. Just like to listen how it was made and all,
not what could have been done different with the story,
To me, once a movie has been made, and sometimes there are directors cuts, but not counting
that, once its done, that story is set in stone to me. I dont cry about how this character didnt have this
arc or this makeup wasnt quite right. whatever, I fill in the rest with my imagination. like reading a
book. But like I said, I like to listen to commentaries when people are talking about who this or that
effect was done, thats my thing.
I certainly am not one to comment on people's imaginings regarding movies as I do this A LOT. However, part of the fill in comes in from production information, behind the scenes, deleted scenes and the novelizations. The movie is a richer experience for me from this information.
By the way, even though this is an ESB thread, I do not know as much about the BTS of that movie as I do on say Star Trek, Chronicles of Riddick or Lord of the Rings. So, there is always potential to learn and grow beyond the set story, if that makes sense.
It is a level of movie criticism that goes in to story structure, production and the like. ESB has very high production value in the fact that there is so much detail, model work, make up, story and the like. Because the bar is set so high by ESB for Star Wars film that it makes the prequels all the more dim in comparison, regardless of other criticisms.
I don't cry over movies getting details wrong as much as I cry over missed opportunities for the film to be greater.
Due to having kids, my last movies watched are usual animated and/or in the family category. That being said, getting to rewatch Mulan from an adult's point of view, filmaking and story, etc.
I think the best aspect of the movie is the characters, especially Mulan. Not the conventional "Disney Princess" but a young lady who doesn't need to be rescued but is trying to do the rescuing. I like the aspect that she is far more of a free agent in terms of her decisions and responding to the events she ends up causing.
The other characters are not always as fleshed out, with some caricatures that full characters in the three companions, but they certainly provide some fun and comic relief.
The film also does a good job of keeping a serious tone as it explores both the lighter side (the camaraderie of soldiers in song) and darker side of army life and war (the destruction and death). Despite being a movie aimed at kids, there are some heavy themes dealt with here, and can provide an opportunity for parents to discuss such things. It isn't simple as it seems on its face.
Keeping in mind that this was released in 1998, there are some technical aspects that are really amazing. If you do watch the film, the part with the Hun army coming down the snow covered mountain, which features an animation program similar to Massive used for the Lord of the Rings armies.
My only complaint is the sometimes lack of sensitivity towards Eastern cultures and beliefs, and almost pop style music in places.
Overall, it is a 9/10 and a fun movie to watch and rewatch.
Well, I think we should end here, because you're talking about a very basic emotional response to a film and I'm talking about an analysis of it. Not saying your feelings or opinions are any less valid than mine, but we obviously look at movies in different ways, and that's okay.
I will say this, guys. If I ever willingly watch a movie with the line, "If I want your opinion, I'll rape it outta you" in it, just kill me right then and there because something has gone horribly wrong.
So noted. We will have the strait jacket and sedatives prepped and ready
mkeithddc wrote:Darth Praxus wrote:1. Luke specifically says "Your real mother." Leia knew she was adopted.
2. What do you mean "telepathically finds out"? Luke tells her. No telepathy.
3. The plain fact is that Lucas didn't. Go read the early story treatments for ROTJ.
What movie are you watching, in the end of 6, lukes like "Im your Brother", and she
was like, "I know, I think Ive always known", leia, is part jedi, so she could
sense lukes and Vaders feelings."Go read the early Treatmeants", um no, dont care what wasnt filmed, what is on
celluloid is what is period. no books or"expanded universe", I am not a fanboy,
I watch movies, sorry.Don't want to turn this into a flame war, so this is the last post I'll make on the subject, but:
1. Okay, that's fine, but that wasn't your statement. You said that "It wasn't until the end of ROTJ that she found out telepathically". And in any event she never knew about Vader being her father until Luke told her.
2. I'm not talking about the EU. I'm talking about Lucas's early story treatments for ROTJ, before the film was in production.
Indeed. I get so much out of reading the early drafts (the making of books are fantastic references for this) and seeing what plot lines go where and how things all pull together is so interesting to me. It sheds more light on to the process of creating the finished work. Star Wars has become more interesting to me the more I learn about it and the process that it took to create it.
There is a lot of inference that comes with the OT that isn't explicitly said in the movie itself. Reading behind the scenes stuff can give a better understanding of the creative mind. Which is one place where we can say that Lucas had certain intentions, likes and dislikes, as well as ideas that never went any where.
I was never completely on board with the prequels in comparison to the OT. I don't want to turn this in to a "OT vs. PT" war, because that will never win. But, there is a very different tone in the PT vs. the OT that makes the OT feel more grounded and limited and gives the world more credence. R2 being skeptical of Luke's plan is a good example because we are never told what R2 says, yet we can infer possibilities. You know, as Dorkman said, subtext.
The PT never really had that kind of subtext or limits. It just puts the images up there and calls it good. It looks really, really pretty, but it isn't gripping like the OT. At least for me.
Stripes is a good one too.
And I was sad to hear about Ramis today.
Vapes wrote:Doctor Submarine wrote:To be fairer, Marvel's featured Black Widow really prominently in the past few years, she apparently has a very big role in the new Captain America, and I'd be shocked if she didn't get a solo film in Phase 3.
[crosses fingers]Marvel Studios Developing Stand-Alone Black Widow Film
Nothing is confirmed or anything, but there's basically no way this isn't happening.
Fireproof, you liked Star Trek Into Darkness, you'll be fine with anything
You'd think that but no, not really
I'm willing to give Guardians the benefit of the doubt but it certainly is a movie that I don't have high expectations for. But, like I said, talking raccoon hasn't sold me yet
I didn't say it was going to change the industry or anything like that. But you seriously can't see filmmakers actually being allowed to make the movie they want regardless of what the audience thinks (read: what the studio execs think audiences want/playing to every human-being-with-cash-they-can-fork-over possible, ala basically every tentpole these days) isn't a good thing? It might just be one, but so what? It still happened, somehow they managed to get by the system and make the movie they wanted to make.
That's fucking awesome.
/this is still of course assuming that's actually whats going on, and the movie hasn't actually been whitewashed for a mass audience appeal (Although judging by what I've seen so far, I'd say it hasn't)
Maybe...
But, I've seen it before and it just doesn't go well for the film. It makes me sad, and still doesn't invest me in GotG but I hope this is different.
Also, Marvel is making Ant Man, and other hero movies, so I think the system is just rolling the dice on this one. If it isn't good, well, move on type of a thing.
Man, I'm in a cynical mood tonight.
fireproof78 wrote:About them giving any sort of care or thought towards what other people think of their film? They don't give one tiny, little...
If a modern tentpole, fucking MARVEL movie can actually get away with doing that, holy frack I don't care how good the movie actually is, that's a win in my book.
I suppose so...
I just don't see how that is relevant or changes the film industry at all, tent pole or no tent pole.
fireproof78 wrote:Here are some people who this movie would be in good company with...
Nah, the GotG are all about giving a fuck.
James Gunn wrote:"For me this movie is about family," he continued. "It's about a bunch of people that don't have a family and they learn to love each other. And I think it's about giving a shit. I think we live in a world where we're taught that not giving a shit is the coolest thing, and this is a movie that says it's really OK to give a shit."
As far as the characters of the movie and the film crew caring about the movie? Yes, they do.
About them giving any sort of care or thought towards what other people think of their film? They don't give one tiny, little...
Like I said before, this movie will be incredible or it will be an explosive disaster.
I thought Avengers did that pretty well, and it certainly could be classified as sci-fi, sort of
The tagline is "You're Welcome." This movie gives no fucks.
Here are some people who this movie would be in good company with...
Hey cool, a Sci-Fi with a sense of humour. It's been a while!
As a comedy in general or just one that is funny?
Honestly, I am happy to hear that Bautista took more classes and that people seem to be taking this movie seriously, even if I am not. The whole raccoon thing is probably what throws me the most, but I suppose I should be used to weird stuff in comics by now...
It could be crazy amazing or crazy awful but either way it will be crazy...
Does this mean we will get the Flash Gordon remake?
Well, let's stop lobbing money their way with Robocop attached.
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