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So what have we learned?
Every tentpole franchise instalment released this year has been flawed (some annoyingly, some seriously, some fatally) but they've been 'too big to fail' anyway can and still earn $1B (e.g. TDKR).
People's top movies of the year are dominated by low to mid-budget one-off movies.
We'll add Teague's 'HFR & Panning' concern to the existing pile of various reactions to HFR.
Comparing the IMAX 24fps and the 48fps versions, I actually prefer the smoother panning of the 48fps. There was a lot of whip panning when Radagast led the Orcs away over the rocky plains, but the 24fps was blurry in comparison.
I've never seen so many different responses to a new format - from hyper-real to hyper-fake , from nausea-inducing to 'it's the future!'
Another question (spoilers):
Why do both Thorin and Gandalf agree that the Rivendell elves will try to stop the quest (and so they must lie about it e.g. academic interest only) and then when Elrond finds out, he's not that bothered.
Why does Balin attempt to stop Thorin handing the map to Elrond, and then as soon as the runes are deciphered he blurts out the actual mission objective right in front of Elrond?
Yeah, lots of the people are having these conflicted thoughts. It is a letdown after LOTR were so perfect.
Hopefully Radagast will pay off.
As for the long action fight scenes, they could definitely be trimmed, but they did look smoother in the 48fps version. T
Positives: score, Wargs, landscape porn, Thorin, Rivendell, Goblin King, Trolls, Riddles scene, lucious production design, finale was okay, second song
Negatives: almost none of the humour worked, excessive CG, childish tone, cockney villains, bland Martin Freeman performance, Pale Orc too cartoonish, contrived emotional arc, unrealistic action, dwarves indistinguishable, first song
There you go. We're had the full gamut of reactions to HFR on DIF - from vehemently against to 'meh' to 'road to Damascus conversion'
The box office is going to be huge on this movie as all of us film nerds will be paying double or triple to see a movie that probably doesn't deserve multiple viewing on its own merits.
Just came back from IMAX 24fps (after first seeing it elsewhere at 48fps) and there's a world of difference with the panning shots. The sequences where (1) Randagast leads the orcs away, and (2) the breaking out of the mines escape action sequence are MUCH clearer at 48fps. Frenetic action in 24fps 3D is blurry.
Spoilers:
The humour is just as flat in both. The combination of Martin Freeman's understated (even bland) performance combined with the camera lingering on him doesn't work. Four examples: (1) the fainting scene needs to shortened - it's not funny, (2) the scene where Bilbo changes his mind in the morning about joining the adventure is done without any emotion, (3) the reaction to 'if we win we eats it?' is too long (3) and the scene where Bilbo pulls the sword out of the dead warg and stares expressionless (forever) at the charging wargs. All four scenes need a trim or better take. They could have almost cast Sam Worthington. Perhaps blandness works better for international box office - as its not culturally specific.
I saw the 9 minute Prologue today in front of The Hobbit IMAX, and the lens flares are still there on the bridge. Kirk does an Indiana Jones getting chased by natives with spears.
Also, I'm not sure if I want a sword that glows blue in the presence of Orcs when it's going to give my location away in the dark. I'd be asking the Elvish Appstore for a refund on that spell.
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