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Godalmighty that was beautiful.

Yep.  Works for me.

Yep.  Sunday at 8 should work for me.

8PM UK time on Friday works for me.  I'm geoffpoole2 on Skype. 

Just a thought - we're in that twilight period where the UK/Europe/Australia have not changed their clocks yet but the North America has.  So that may affect anyone who's joining us from the US or Canada, if we were going to go this Friday or next Friday.  I think, e.g., Los Angeles is only 7 hours behind the UK until the early morning of the 30th.

If we can work the time and technological issues out (probly the best mike I can lay hands on easily is a Rock Band vocal mike), I'd be up for it!

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'Fraid I literally only started playing Minecraft about 2 weeks ago after we broke down and bought it for my daughter for the Xbox, so I can't really say that I have much to say about it, but I'll definitely keep an eye out for future calls.  (Been computer gaming for 30 years, plus or minus, and would be happy to talk about anything I actually happen to know something about.)

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Yeah, I think it's ultimately a question of having to agree to disagree.  I completely accept that I'm giving the film more of a pass than I otherwise would because it tells me what I want to hear.

However, I think it's too strong to say it's a failure of science fiction though, since I think science fiction can equally be about taking some aspect of our real world circumstances to its logical conclusion.  The argument is (on my reading) that our real life mega-wealthy of right now, today, simply don't fucking give a toss about anyone or anything (except protecting what they have and amassing more) and that point is made by describing a future society in which that characteristic is shared by everyone.  These characters may be completely "inhuman", but that's because the mega-wealthy are inhuman in precisely that sense, so the claim would go.  And it's underlining the injustice of that attitude by making it literally unnecessary in-universe.  (And, by that, further suggesting that the mega-wealthy of today could provide needed help at a negligible-to-them, effectively zero cost, and they, like everyone in Elysium, choose not to.)     

And I completely agree that that induces a kind of dramatic failure.  We the audience aren't (in general) psychopaths, utterly incapable of empathy for anyone who is Not Us.  But if indeed the film is sacrificing drama to make that political point, I think it's a vaguely bold move.  But, again, that's because it's playing to my prejudices.

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Hang in there, Zarban!  All these things will be lost in time....

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