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I do a lot of random general life ones on my personal/LP channel Teague. Started it as my may project.
You know...if you're interested. *cough*
But yeah, I'm going to try to do a lot more of the In Development ones for the next 3 films since I'm not MAD PANIC LAST MINUTE SCRAMBLING to get them organized.
Dammit people, stop making me excited.
I have enough work of myy oooooooooowwwwnnnnnokay fine. yes. I'm in, fuck it. LET'S DO THIS.
Just agreeing...
Never thought about the fact raising a hand has dual meanings...
Actually, you guys just wanna say this is the new community project?
Since i have a projector, i can probably do a spaceship interior as front projection.
I can fake the ship landing with a reaction shot with a moving shadow.
How about the hologram effect? That's insanely cool.
Anything else that is easy and impressive that should be included or replace another shot?
I...hmm... I actually don't have a lot of experience with projection stuff. I imagine though the hardest part is getting your lighting right on actors without washing out the screen. I think they did projection stuff for Tokes and Stokes... so Teague?
If you wanted actually, the ship shot could be:
Background, the actors watching the ship land, do a fake shadow on top of that and then in the extreme foreground have a really really out of focus landing leg come into frame and park itself. Just frame it so you don't actually see the ground where the leg is contacting, and boom you're good to go.
Hologram, the hardest part of that is the tracking, the rest is just lighting and motion graphics work to make something cool. I think...Owen (?) was messing around with a hologram type thing like that a while back.
BDA - As long as your angles line up, it's mostly in the grading and channel matching - at least that's my experience in mixing elements in Photoshop. Everything I've played with in AE has behaved pretty similarly
Oh yeah, if you know what you're doing it's ultimately fairly simple. But of the things Zarb's wants to do, it's probably the one that could go south the easiest, which is what he asked. Especially like Trey mentioned, full 3D elements + live action is a slippery slope.
Oh, right....
Zarban: I'd love to say I could definitely help, but I'm pretty insane right now. Although I can probably make some room in a couple months after my 2 biggest projects have wrapped up shooting. I'm not sure what sort of time frame you're wanting to get this done though.
The light sabers will probably be the most grunt-worky, though not particularly difficult, as I'm sure more people on this forum will know better than I. Probably the most dangerous will be anything with 3D +live plate stuff. So the probe droid and hallway interior. Depending on how "absolutely photoreal" you want to go.
EDIT:
By point of reference, this was a film I directed/corralled in my first year of film school. 100% green screen hallways, 2 man 3D team, 2 man comp team. Less than a month shoot to final. Nearly killed us.
Granted, we have a lot more talented VFX-ers in this forum than I was back then (including myself) and the time frame will probably be a lot more than ours was, but just to, idk, put it out there I guess.
...but exclusively catalouging all the faults of a film which does SO many other things right (e.g. Die Hard) just comes across as petty.
But's that's their entire schtick "No movie is without sin."
A large part of Cinemas Sins does is go, alright this is a movie everyone loves, let's see how many of our "sins" we can find. And on that aspect I find it kind of interesting, because it's actually leveling the playing field a bit, "Every movie has these, but some of them are good and some of them are bad."
Which hey, the optimist in me says maybe a few people in the audience will wonder why some movies are considered bad and some are good even though they all have these "sins", and go look deeper.
/Not sure how much it actually adds to the discussion at hand, but that's just something that occured to me.
Actually that just means you're a shitty cook.
Also to me that seems like a bizarre twisting of what's actually happening here.
I make a lovely salmon dinner and serve it to you, you complain that you didn't want steak, I say, "I didn't make steak, it's salmon.", but you storm off saying you're sick of all this steak bullshit, you just wanted a nice salmon dinner.
I didn't do anything wrong, I made a nice salmon dinner, you're the one who decided to see it as a steak dinner. Should I get fired because I gave you exactly what i said I was going to?
Owen, that was a glorious thing to witness.
I'm really tempted to just layer all of yours together, just to see what it would happen.
Btw, Owen wins best Bag thus far for the schizo minion, Bag bag bag bagbagbagbagBAGBAGBAGFUCKINBAG!!!!!!
So..uh...yeah...we did a thing today.
Name: Chris Walker
Alias: BigDamnArtist, Zangrethor Digital (<production company name)
Skills: General filmmakery, VFX, motion graphics, voiceover/voice acting, random practical effects type stuff (props, costumes etc.), making the chatlog read like the diary of a deranged martian
Also interested in doing: Random collabs, reading/noting/commenting on other peoples stuff, cool stuff
Availability: ...not for the foreseeable future.
Contact Info: bigdamnartist@gmail.com
...this is not the same thread I left 25 minutes ago.
Doctor Submarine wrote:3) You're twisting my argument. I'm advocating for an open-minded approach to a wide spectrum of criticism, not the narrow-minded, reductive stuff that CinemaSins promotes. And I wouldn't even care about it if it wasn't so popular. If it wasn't the majority.
As the saying goes, freedom of speech is only needed for the stuff you personally don't like. It's fine for you to promote the type of criticism you enjoy, point out the flaws in the other stuff. Both have a right to exist, though.
4) It really doesn't matter what the creators intended. It's having an effect, so it's fair to say, "Hey, maybe they should recognize this effect and change their content to avert it." I honestly can't comprehend this argument. Their content contains a rhetoric that I find poisonous to a community that I love. They created this virus. You can't pin the blame solely on the people spreading it.
Hey, you've just described both sides in just about any social/political divide! At least with movies, it's about something that actually doesn't matter to humanity at large. When one group decides "Their content contains a rhetoric that I find poisonous to a community that I love" with regard to something important, you have mass killings. Or Fox News.
I agree with both of the things that Invid said. And pretty much sums anything I would have to say.
Sorry, my brain is still just getting caught up on the whole "Shut them down cause they don't believe what I do thing". That just seems remarkably drastic for a comedy show on the internet
1) And that's fine, you can think that all you want. I'll still don't believe it, and outside of a few anecdotal pieces about annoying memebers of the vocal fanbase, I have yet to see any proof of it.
2) See answer number 1. But further, as far as do I think it's okay to say something false/wrong to an audience. That's a very slippery line that has way to many nuances for here, but as a rule, fuck yes I think anyone should be allowed to say whatever they damn well please. That doesn't mean I as a consumer am going to believe whatever you tell me. It's part of being a grown-up type person to actually do your research and not trust the first thing you read in the morning. If you have an issue with that, that's an issue you have with society at large, not CS or HT.
3) A. See my remark at the top. B. Because the most proactive thing to do when encouraging free thought and a society built on critical thinking is to limit public access to only the things you believe in.
4) When it comes to this, I am actually referring to the literal interpretation of it. Clearly all media can be used to coerce or change minds (but see my point in #2), but unless it's something malevolent and conscious on part of the content creators, you have no right to get angry AT THEM about it. They are simply producing content that they think people will watch/enjoy, the fans are the ones that get attracted to it and become vocal. And again if that's your issue, you have a problem with society, not CS or HT, as that happens EVERYWHERE.
EDIT: Couple posts in the time it took me to write this. Teague, I am...now... pumping the breaks. Leaving this here cause *ehh* I wrote it, might as well.
Fans of CinemaSins don't dictate the content creators, it's the other way around, and that's the problem.
So your argument is actually that things like cinemasins and HT shouldn't be allowed to exist because a portion of their audience will believe them?
Shit... we got whole industries we gotta shut down over here. I mean tabloids, out the window, womens magazines, porn...I mean that's just gone whole cloth, Fox news... jesus, we're gonna lose like half our working population.
*wanders away mumbling to self*
Anyways... yes, your argument is still that CinemaSins should change what it is so that it's fans won't do/say/be whatever it is that offends you.
It's about what the fans do with the product outside of the product itself.
I can't believe I have to say this, but content creators don't actually have some amazing mind control over their audience. HT and CS arn't sending out vast waves of ignorant movie goers to plague the internet. People will do what people are gonna do.
If you wanna say you just hate the vocal fanbase of CS and HT, by all means go ahead, I won't stop you. There are plenty of fanbases I would gladly see wiped off the earth. If I ever meet another person who rants at me for not watching PewDiePie, I'll probably hit them quite hard. But PewDiePie himself has nothing to do with that. He's annoying in his own right, and probably why he attracts such a large vocal fanbase, but he isn't sending out vast legions of people screaming on forums. But every fanbase has those people, every fanbase, and they are everywhere. Welcome to the internet.
I 'm wondering. If a filmmaker ever used the excuse "I didn't do X because my fans would hate me/think less of me/riot/do something." I know for a fact most y'all wouldn't hesitate to throw them on the fire in a heartbeat.
I'm wondering why you think this is a different circumstance, where how the fans act SHOULD dictate the content creators?
...and the abundance of it distracts and detracts from it.
Obviously, you're not speaking comparatively to the rest of the film criticism/review universe.
I mean come on guys, I get that we all really care about movies and what not. But a couple comedy channels on youtube no more corrupts and destroys one of the pillars of the movie industry any more than My Drunk Kitchen and Swedish Meal Time corrupts the sanctity of the Food Network.
Alright... your motivation is this:
You're a member of a studio audience, you're very confused, and not sure why you are there. A very large, very muscled man in a very tight fitting black t-shirt emerges from the curtain blocking the stage before you. He tells you, in a voice entirely to deep to be human, almost animalistic, that when the big red light over the audience turns on, you needs to shout the word "BAG" as enthusiastically as you possibly can. He then stares you, specifically you, in the eyes, and you see the pain and suffering of a thousand generations of souls tortured by this mans ancestors permeate deep into your soul rendering your heart still for the longest of brief moments.
Motivated?
Y'all are nuts, and awesome, and I love it.
Fun fact, because of you sorry goddamned assholes, we're doing an intermission this weekend called PLOT HOLE FILM CRITICISM.
So, good job Doc and Pav and Herc and BDA. You MESSED UP OUR WEEKEND.
*cries, runs away foppishly*
MUAHAHA. And just to add insult to injury, I'm not even going to BE THERE cause I'm making movies ALL WEEKEND!!! MUAHAHAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
But no actually I'm really curious to hear what you guys think.
That is actually a really valid point, for a lot of people, and I'm not even speaking to their intelligence or anything, simple fact is some people, a lot of people, DON'T CARE movies in the same way we all do. They don't think about, it doesn't even register that that is something they should want to think about. Movies are a fun night out to enjoy with friends or kill some time in a somewhat enjoyable way. They're definitely not the kind of people that are going to read reviews with a critical eye, if they read reviews at all it'll be to find out if a movies worth spending 12 bucks on, full stop.
CinemasSins/Honest Trailers could be seen as a gateway drug into that world, a primarily comedy based method of getting across some funny jokes but also sneaking in a bit of deeper criticism that a large part of the audience would never have even considering thinking about.
Is it going to be the best way to get accross EVERY SINGLE point in a 100% ACCURATE way? No.
But then we don't throw 5th year University MicroBiology textbooks at 6 year olds either.
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