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The fact remains that he didn't have the rights to LOTR and he had to convince someone to 1) buy the rights, 2) fund the films, and 3) let him be the one at the helm.

It's a fair point that we probably made it sound like it was just handed to him on a silver platter, when he had to put in some serious legwork. But however you want to put it, if I were in the position in 1998 to hire Peter Jackson to helm a $300 million epic undertaking of an epic trilogy that we weren't even planning to make until he walked in the door, I don't know if I'd have done it no matter how good his pitch was. So New Line -- and Robert Shaye in particular -- gets my admiration for sacking up and taking a chance.

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My problem with Ebert is how often his "reasoning" seems to consist of "I'm right and you're dumb." An occasional backpedal is not a bad thing if you can recognize you were wrong/ill-informed about something. Instead he takes the intellectually lazy route of declaring a position based on minimal information and impugning the character or authority of anyone who dares to disagree. Even recusing himself from the video games debate was less "I shouldn't have said anything because I don't know enough about the subject" and more "I shouldn't have said anything because you're all a bunch of mad Philistines who can neither be controlled nor reasoned with."

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*consults notes*

*clears throat*

Shut up, Ebert.

*sits down*

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Wikipedia, 'splain.

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It's altering the shutter speed, not the FPS, but it has a similar effect. When shooting film, a frame of film is by default exposed for half the time it's in the gate, the other half being used to advance each frame forward. So a frame of film shot at 24fps (i.e. 1/24th of a second per frame) has a shutter speed of 1/48th of a second. This is also known as a 180-degree shutter, since the shutter is a spinning disc and the shutter angle is how much of the disc is open to allow light through.

Because digital doesn't have physical media to physically move, it doesn't need to close the shutter for any longer than the equivalent of a couple degrees, so you can have effectively a 360-degree shutter, or 1/24th second exposure per 1/24th sec frame. Longer exposure means more motion blur per frame, which makes it feel something like having a higher framerate capturing the motion.

PUBLIC ENEMIES was shot at 24fps just like COLLATERAL was. But the style feels appropriate for COLLATERAL and not for PUBLIC ENEMIES (and also the effect is less pronounced in darker imagery).

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It was shot digital with an open shutter. It has the same effect as those "motion smoothing" televisions of making things look and feel like they were shot on a video camera (associated with being more "real" since people record their real lives with video) rather than film.

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I remember liking COLLATERAL but I remember almost no specifics about the film itself. Only that it's one of the few cases I didn't mind the "video look," and the part of the chase sequence at the train station was cut in a really confusing way.

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I'm with maul2. Beauty and the Beast was not an animated film aimed at adults. If it were, it wouldn't be rated G. It just isn't aimed at children to the exclusion of adults -- which I guess is why the distinction of "family" entertainment exists, vs. "kids" entertainment.

I think people laugh at hyperviolence because it's such a system shock. I'm sure people laughed and went "Ohhhhh!" during EXPENDABLES. It's not that it's funny, per se, more of a "I can't believe that just fucking HAPPENED" incredulous laughter. It's not that it's animation, therefore it's funny. It's funny because it's insane to see it in animation.

...I don't know if I'm making sense with that distinction. I mean to say that it's not that people see a cartoon and are therefore primed to assume that they're watching something funny. It's that when people see a cartoon, they are not primed to expect graphic violence, and the shock of seeing it makes them laugh (laughter is just a response to something unexpected -- a joke is only really funny when you don't see it coming).

Afro Samurai creates much the same reaction, as did the anime sequence in KILL BILL vol.1 (actually most of that movie caused those reactions in the audience).

I don't agree that Pixar's movies have fundamentally selfish protagonists all the way through (nor necessarily that HOME ALONE or HOOK do, either. I can give you PROBLEM CHILD). TOY STORY, UP, and CARS are distinctly about the protagonists having to learn not to be such pricks, and INCREDIBLES has some of that in Mr. Incredible's storyline but there's also the clear superhero save-the-world aspect. FINDING NEMO also has a bit of Marlin not being so overprotective (selfishness in its way), but he does truly love his son and risks everything to rescue him. TOY STORY 2 is about Woody's friends rescuing him; TOY STORY 3 is about Woody rescuing his friends; MONSTERS, INC. is about rescuing Boo; WALL-E is about Wall-E seeking a connection with Eve (but unselfishly -- he doesn't want anything from her, aside from the company, he just wants to give), and then Eve saving Wall-E, and also about the ship's captain saving humanity from itself despite it meaning giving up his comfort and authority. RATATOUILLE I don't remember because I saw it once and it left no impression but I think the rat and the dude were helping each other right?

I do think, however, that perhaps you've shone a light on a deeper explanation for why Pixar is "Pixar!" and Dreamworks is "oh, Dreamworks..." Pixar DOES tell stories about self-sacrifice and whatnot, and the stories work because we feel like they matter, like they're about something. Whereas until recently, Dreamworks made movies that were about the gags and pop culture references, but the characters were fundamentally selfish and that was the only thing driving them. Even when the arc is about learning not to be selfish -- SHREK, for example -- he hasn't really learned that at the end, has he? He's really only figured out that it benefits him to open up his heart to Donkey and Fiona. I didn't bother with SHARK TALE or MADAGASCAR but I'm guessing it's a lot of the same, and I don't even remember what the hell SHREKS 2 and 3 were putatively about.

But I loved KUNG FU PANDA, and HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON really made a lot of people at least cock their heads to the side and go "wait, Dreamworks? Hm, they might be getting this now." And in both cases -- although initially selfishly motivated -- the protagonists, as well as many of the supporting characters, ultimately have to put themselves aside and fight for something bigger.

THIS IS SO DEEP YOU GUYS

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Squiggly_P wrote:

I love their films, but I also hate them for being so damn popular.

I think you should make Hipster Ariel your new avatar.

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/100/950/original/its-a-crustacean-band-youve-probably-never-heard-it.jpg?1298277389

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Now finally having a chance to listen to this and hear the bits I wasn't there for, the $10 word Brian may have been reaching for when discussing the more modern acting style could be "verisimulitude." "Simulacrum" would be a good $10 word for a pod person, though.

I actually kind of like the (initial) blase attitude toward the pod people, similar to the attitude the characters have in THE THING when discussing that it's a shapeshifter.

"There's a clone of you dead on the table."
"Yeeup."
"Hm. That's fucked up."
"Yeeup. Want some coffee?"

I dunno. For some reason I like it better than the modern tendency to either become immediately hysterical or just start shotgunning irrational denials in all directions. I feel like if something that crazy happened, but you weren't in immediate apparent danger, you'd almost be too freaked out to be freaked out.

Once the shit really starts going down and immediate risk starts to become apparent, then I see panic setting in. But as long as it's just lying there, after the initial shock I can imagine it being kinda like, "huh."

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Matt Vayda wrote:

I managed to come up with a few titles that seem to play a similar identity card to Body Snatchers.

There's also "The Puppet Masters" -- the book, at least. I heard the movie made rather a botch of it but never saw it.

The "alien worms in the brain" conceit was also used in the second season episode of the 90s Outer Limits, "From Within."

TimK wrote:

(WTF is a Balrog to those who haven't read LOTR?)

I think the movie told you everything you really needed to know on that one. We've already established that we're dealing with a fantasy world of magic & monsters, so it's not hard to accept another monster. Saruman says "The dwarves dug too greedily and too deep." Gotcha, they dug their way into Tolkien Hell and let that shit loose. That's not exactly accurate, but it's close enough that you understand the stakes, which is all that matters.

I think the pods are the same thing. How do they work? Dunno, except that you better not fucking fall asleep. Stakes established, moving on.

Though they are more thoroughly explained in the '78 version (my favorite), which we'll get to eventually.

I think if anything modern genre movies tend to do even less explaining, relying on the now-established tropes to get you most of the way and throwing in the tidbits about their universe's particular spin as necessary.

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+1 on liking BATMAN FOREVER, for basically the same reasons Branco said. Pre-Nolanverse I actually think it's my favorite, RETURNS being second.

BATMAN & ROBIN is pretty indefensible though. Although you compare it to AIRBENDER and I think "boy, we didn't know how good we had it with 'bad' back then."

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So really you should be posting about them in the "Bad movies I love" thread, not the "Movies everyone says are bad but I think are actually good and here's why" thread.

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I deleted said bot post. Just so no one thinks maul2 is being a dick to Shifty.

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jamesneysmith wrote:

And who knew Sam Rockwell was in it?

I rewatched TMNT just recently, and literally went "WHAT!" when he showed up onscreen. Particularly because I did specifically remember his character from watching the flick as a kid, but it had no connection in my mind to him.

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ZARBAN HAS A GIIIIIIIIRLFRIENNNNNNNND

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jeremiah4226 wrote:

I didn't really understand what the evidence was for "P", or 2nd Isaiah. Is Isaiah 44:6 part of 2nd Isaiah?

He glossed over that because he'd mentioned them in an earlier video (this is part of a series about this person's journey from devout Christian to atheist).

P is one of five identified authors of what became the Pentateuch according to the documentary hypothesis.

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jeremiah4226 wrote:

I too had never heard of the "polytheistic Judaism" that Dorkman spoke of.  However, after listening to the video, I saw what he was talking about, and started laughing. This isn't anything new to Christianity or Judaism, Jehovah, Yahwey, Elohim, etc aren't seen as different gods, but as the same god manifesting himself in different ways.

Which is a bit like responding to the Secret History of Star Wars with "Oh, no, you see that's explained in the Young Jedi Knights series, that when they referred to this, they were actually referring to that."

The point of the video is that they were seen as different gods for centuries, per archaeological and anthropological evidence, until the concept of monotheism was invented, at which point they were retconned into a single god with the explanation you've just given.

You missed the point of the video completely. High five.

Although you're right that this isn't "new" to those religions -- it predates them and forms their foundation.

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For those who are interested in more about the polytheistic roots of Judaism, and its spinoff sequel mythology Christianity. Obviously this is only a quick primer. Sources and further reading cited on the YouTube page.

You could also look at it as, through all the Leno-Conan nonsense, no one ever considered that just watching Letterman was a viable alternative.

I think he and Leno are locked in an epic struggle to see who can be less funny each night. Whoever wins we lose.

I have the same birthday as Nimoy. Also shared with Richard Dawkins, and Joseph Campbell. Whatup.

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Oh, I'm not saying comedy shows can't work without a laughtrack. But there's a difference between adding a laughtrack after the fact, a la M*A*S*H, and shooting the scene with pauses for laughter as part of the rhythm. Watching 30 Rock with a laughtrack would be weird. But I'm guessing so would watching Married... with Children (or your own favorite studio-audience sitcom) without one.

I don't think BBT is filmed with a live audience, which would be why the pause-for-laughters feel particularly artificial and forced. There's a discernible difference between someone trying to get to the next line but not being able to over a laughing audience, and someone just halting after every line or two so the editor can slap some laughter down. But I do think removing laughtracks that were meant to be there would create awkward rhythms in any show.

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Although to be fair, I wonder how many laughtrack-based sitcoms that you or I consider actually funny would feel equally stilted and awkward without the laughtrack. I bet most of them.

I have only seen a handful of episodes but I couldn't say from which season(s) they came. They were just on -- though it was syndication, not new episodes -- so I thought I'd give it a shot. And...blech. I should probably try watching a few more but I don't think I could respect myself in the morning.

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Zarban wrote:

Please also try to keep the number of murders you commit during a commentary down below the number committed by the sociopaths in the films.

I wish I'd known about this rule before. 2012 was a seriously wasted opportunity.

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I didn't want to clutter up Zarban's commentary section with a response, so it's here:

Accusations of "ignorance" come from a very provincial perspective of a specific interpretation of the theology. I may not know (or agree) with his interpretation of the Bible, but he seems to be under the impression that his is the only-possible-everyone-agrees-and-certainly-correct-one -- which is, of course, what everyone he disagrees with thinks about their own. I also find it amusing that he makes such accusations of ignorance while himself demonstrating so little understanding of the history of the development of the Bible and especially of early Judaism.

I do personally tend to try not to bring up religion in commentaries unless the movie is religiously themed, in which case I think we should be free to discuss the film's underlying mythology like we do with any other.

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Hm. Interesting...

Being a skeptic doesn't mean being totally unwilling to believe in the supernatural, just that until sufficient evidence to demonstrate the supernatural is given, the claim isn't accepted. For a character to believe in the supernatural after having seen quite a lot of evidence in its favor would not cease to make him a skeptic -- in fact, he would be a poor skeptic to reject a proposition after a certain level of evidence is reached (see climate change, moon landing "skeptics").

On the other hand...does Indy actually see any evidence of the supernatural? When the only really irrefutably supernatural event occurs, he's got his eyes closed.

And you could argue that the fact that he goes with the myth and closes his eyes means he's bought into it, but maybe not. Maybe it's just his experience that at a certain point you go with the precautions of the lore even if you don't believe the explanation. Could be the Hovitos legends say not to step into the light or you will be smote by the Sun God. Turns out it's actually poison darts, but either way you really don't want to step into the light. Could be he didn't know WHAT would happen when the ark was opened, but he heard you weren't supposed to look at it, he was already tied to a post and helpless, so what did he have to lose? So he could conceivably still not believe in the supernatural at the end of it all and not be entirely unreasonable.

In the story conference Lucas talks about how Indy -- his original concept, anyway -- straddles both worlds a bit. He's the guy who walks into an ancient temple that's supposedly cursed and makes people drop dead, and discovers a toxic gas leak in the main chamber. But he's also a guy who's seen some serious shit and accepts that sometimes there is actually a curse, and part of his investigation is helping him find out which it is.

Whether he accepts the supernatural or not at the end (I'm inclined to agree that that's part of the arc), you're right that there is, at the last, an acceptance that doing nothing is the best course of action, whereas up until that point he's continued trying to do something and it's kept blowing up in his face.

Indy has a character arc! yikes