Read this for unrelated reasons: http://web.archive.org/web/200802041358 … ilogy.html

In 1997(cir?) John Freaking Williams wrote:

I can't speak with an expertise about film preservation, but I can talk emotionally and not as a serious art historian. I would make this observation: In the last 20 years or so, I've been very heartened - I guess we all have - by the consciousness that has emerged about preservation.

    We're suddenly realizing as the 20th century comes to a close, one of the greatest cultural legacies, especially American but around the world also, is our filmmaking, and that we need to be very serious about preservation and about the archival aspects of all of these things that we do. It isn't only film, it's also music. The horror stories are myriad about the great MGM library that had Doctor Zhivago original music and Singin' in the Rain original music and musicals from the '30s and '40s - all these scores and orchestra parts that people want to perform now were all destroyed in the fire after some real estate company took over the physical lab of the studio.

    The American Film Institute and other interested people, their preservation sentiments are wonderful in film and I think they should extend to original scripts that people have their marginalia on, and the original scores and sketches and orchestra parts of all this material. Imagine our grandchildren fifty, a hundred years from now, the interest that they would find in being able to take the orchestra parts to Wizard of Oz and sit down and play the whole score.

    That is something devoutly to be wished. I don't confuse popular arts with high art. That's another discussion not suitable for this kind of time. But, however you evaluate the popular art of American filmmaking, as a high, middle, low, wherever you place it in your mind, doesn't alter the fact that this preservation task is desperately needed. I'm just delighted that we're seeing in the recent period of years people being very conscious of it, especially young people.

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Got a few things on my mind.

The Blue text of Star Wars logo is this a reference to the end credits, or am I reading too much into it?

Spacehorses charging spaceships in space.  All the spaceships ever vs an Infinite Grid of Star Destroyers.  Force-based Marine Salvage of a Star Destroyer through solid water. So, we're uh, escalating.  OK.  It’s a little bit turning into the 1975 Chevy Van art that the original poster is so in love with.  Missing all the sophomoric boobs (though still dripping with the machismo).  Hopefully JJ doesn't take it too far.

The Internet is positively stalking my cookie based content recommendation engine feeds with reports of various Star Wars stakeholders saying they’re ‘disappointed’ by CLICK TO FIND OUT WHY GEORGE LUCAS IS "DISAPPOINTED" W...

WTF is wrong with you Taboola?

The Rey’s-parentage fight is really calling to mind the was-Darth-Vader-lying-in-TESB fight everyone had until ROTJ confirmed the previous film’s retcon.  Not saying I think it helps us predict the story at all, just funny watching the interaction in the press take place like a flashback to history.

The shot where the Falcon is leading all the ships I think is key to this film.  It represents the enormous pressure that this episode has riding on it to officially launch the Disney version of the Franchise.  Long after we’re all dead, they’ll be well on their way to telling the story of each and every one of those ships and their crews.   

I’m really looking forward to Carrie Fisher’s performance.  Looks like we might get a Leia/Rey training montage which will be cool.

The stuff in the trailer is starting to look really good.  Really enjoying pausing and looking around at all the design going on.  I think this one’s gonna be pretty.  Also, I think Teague is right, and this is gonna be off the chain.

+1 on the characterization of TLJ.

Very interested in the continuity of Kylo's Mask.  Sometimes he has it, sometimes not, sometimes it's Wabi Sabi'd together, sometimes it looks new.  Very intrigued.  Also, previously stated, I love all the OT stuff with the visions and the caves, so looking forward to more of that.

Also, Lando apparently still wears his clothes from High School.

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Doesn't La Casa de Papel mean The Paper House?

ooo, that's smooth.

I can't hear Therapy, 'cause the goog says it's too popular.

I'm interested in how exact their method is.  I didn't make it very hard, I'm tuned a half step down like they are on the album so I'm singing in the original 'key' (equally tempered tho, so does the algorithm even notice?), but I'm playing a totally terrible different accompanying piece on the guitar 'cause I'm not a very good guitar player.  So it's definitely my singing that they care about.  But also, I labeled it with the correct title? So does that give the game away to the algorithm?  Did I make it too easy?

What background.  That's me playing one guitar, and singing.  No recorded music whatsoever.  The text of the claim said they objected to my singing the melody of the song, not to using a recording of it.  #ThisTimelineBestTimline

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jLEQqzR3mEScOaVEnqi3te2RdF0dBj9eIEmYd8lQmN38J3ndCQx4_WpM9lWklC8TuxvIfNOfqOktsnigVw6P40Cxrd_qYk4MecRk3bJVHaTTti0bMOyEuteOwGQx4n91Cqk4CKjQrTE

Too lazy to add words.  Later. 

EDIT: OOOOh, I feel honored.  Never managed to sing so good to get a copyright claim before.  (Not a Strike, just demonetized [lol], no one get worried).

This is wonderful.  Please keep doing it.

I sung this song today.  To see if I still feel.

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I certainly wasn't nearly as cynical as a kid, I just wanted to get to the SPACELAZERS.  If you asked 12 year old me, I'd have told you Empire wasn't quite as good as the other ones since it was lacking a really big explosion at the end.

Also...  Somewhere there is a like, sizzlereel of my brother that I made for a birthday roast when I was 14ish? His onscreen antics aside, I narratated the shit out of the thing in my very best 14 year old Maltin impression.  He was clearly the greatest interviewer I knew of.


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It is pretty interesting to track interactions with with franchise at both a cultural level and an individual one.
Like you have the Typical stuff like you and me, @Boter, but does anyone here remember reading on the TFN boards about the guy in Denmark or Norway or some foreign place (to my uneducated american ear holes) who couldn't get his parents to take him to the movies, his dad was falling asleep/yelling at the screen, and then he met this other kid who'd never seen any of the films at all but had all the toys and had an elaborate backstory about how the Emperor was Chewy's grandmother?

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My dad brought it home on the cheepo rental 4:3PS VHS in like 1994 and we watched the 3 episodes over the course of like, a month?  It felt like years. 

https://starwarsblog.starwars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Original-1.jpg

I vaguely remember asking about it at a "Hollywood Video" and him saying something along the lines of "You haven't seen Star Wars?"  Fast forward a couple years I got the THX box set that trailer is advertising, as a gift. 

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/817bhNs0NhL._SY445_.jpg

Each tape included that trailer and Leonard Maltin interviewing GL about the episode and letting him say whatever he wanted.  I'd usually FF'd the interview, but I loved that trailer.  It was like a TV show theme that told you what the whole thing was about.  Must have watched those tapes and therefore that trailer, hundreds of times.

Perhaps what my soul needs is to make a star wars trailer of my own after it's all over.

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Uncle George is a lie.  (he's lurking out there selling some line about being 'disappointed' right now)

That said.

Watching the space people fight each other, pretending to be a space person myself, and dedicating a lot of neurons to the lore and words of those space people has been some of the happiest points of my life.

Going to see Skywalker with my siblings this December is more important to me then any family Christmas/NYE nonsense might be going down.

I saw TFA so many times.  It felt so good to be back in Star Wars again.

Didn't go quite as nuts for TLJ, but still saw it multiple times in theaters and is tied with ESB as best Star Wars IMHO.

I love watching it in 3D, on as big a screen as possible, sitting right in the middle, and a little too close, so the screen fills my whole field of vision.

The bullshit that the Internet has directed at the actors is just as stoopid as the shit Ahmed Best got as JarJar.  They've all been doing fantastic work.  The casting has taken a really nice turn in the hands of the Four Fingered Mouse.  Hamill and Johnson fill the screen with more mystery in Luke Skywalker than Guiness and Lucas (lol) ever managed.  Damn that was a good movie.  And the scene with Rey and the mirrors!  Ufda.

The writing is loads better with Disney.  I'm excited for what the end of the saga means for all the rest of Star Wars.  Since 1977 GL et all have been telling people "no no, don't write about THAT, cuz I'm gonna write about it later..."  For 40 years!  Finally, no more of that crap.  Aaaand they brought back hyperspace and big death lazers!

Nonnathat lets JJ off the hook, or forgives the tepid support Disney has shown the actors, or the wormtongueing GL gives anyone who will listen, or the producers for not finally doing their homework after 40 years.

But.

I agree.

Fuck that.

IMA go watch some Star War

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So cool! Looking forward to updates

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I was definitely smoking weed when I decided that it was strange to be furiously cutting the hair off my head and face as fast as it grew, and maybe actually I had no idea what I really looked like.  It was a very weird feeling.  Haven't been back to the barber since.  Caitlyn is teaching me to braid.

PS: BG I is my dad, I'm BG II.

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Oh man. What a great movie. The TFN FFA is still there?!

IThe films took so long to download. Then we got DSL and it was still slow as fuck, but you could actually successfully download whole fan films. I was a latecomer to TFN, and then again to The Formula (I think cause I thought it was primarily a parody of The Matrix) but when I finally got around to downloading it... I feel like it changed everything about the way I thought about my fandom.

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Not on point, but man, I've been watching all of these:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66sDIAEYeU4

That's how it's done right. 

But, Oooohwie!   Let's watch JJ put it in the Khan

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Saniss wrote:

I'm completely stunned by the notion that there is so little connection made between episodes, that a trilogy is now nothing more than three separate stories told by different people who hope something holds together in the end.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BM7M3C
http://fd.noneinc.com/secrethistoryofst … rwars.com/

But, that is how Star Wars has always been written.

It's more mindboggling that its still mostly the same people, or their protoge's, still stumbling around in the dark FIFTY YEARS LATER.

There's an organized religion analogy in here somewhere.

The shear cultural power of 'Star Wars' is carrying the franchise as a whole.  There haven't been any new ideas introduced in the movies since ESB.  GL accidentally made this crazy blockbuster that was saved by his friends, his wife, Ben Burtt, and the crew at ILM, and then Kirsh/Kasadan managed to pull off a miracle and follow it with something better, but after you make a whole 'canon' it gets a lot harder to keep everything making sense (especially if you're GL and don't care/don't know how). 

Figuring out why this is the still the case...  there are so many reasons and systems at work it seems a little pointless to try to assign blame.

How long before it gets rebooted?

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Am I missing a trailer?  I've seen the "D23 sneak peek", is ther-

finishes googling

Oh.

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IS it weird that the trailer cuts on Creepio's look to: DEATHSUN!!

?

Just asking.

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Waiiiiiiit a second.   In the promos Rey is standing on a beach, looking at a hurricane with a deathstar laserdish on the horizon.

So that's a deathstar chunk they're fighting on in the trailer.

But the poster pillar is something else.  It's much smaller and has a ring and a ladder.  Which I swear I've seen somewhere, but it's not the falcon's ladder, or a piece of cloud city as far as I can tell.

Also, in the trailer scene Kylo is helmetless.  If poster Kylo isn't wearing a helmet, what's goin' on with his head?

Soooo, mebe they go back to Endor and discover a Palpy Hurricane there?  And we dooo get a movie full of infinite mirrors, and it's kinda of a Star Wars Palpatine Haunted House Experience?

Oooooh, and

SPOILER Show
ALL THE EWOKS ARE DEAD FROM DEATHSTAR INDUCED CLIMATE CHANGE and we could have a really pointed lesson about war and spaceflightprivelege.

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Oh, wait, I thought that was a cross cut from TFA.  Deathsun indeed.

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

Anyways, looking forward to seeing how big the Death Sun is gonna be this time around.

I mean.... if I take my fandom back to the beginning, I was never a fan of any of the characters, I was much more a fan of The Force.  The Emperor was so scary, because he seemed to know so much more about The Force than the other characters.

And like, obviously, I'm experiencing that through the characters, so the characters have to be well written and motivated, but on the other hand, dooooo they??

Like, it's very Twilight, ya?

Not sure about any of this, just writing it down.

I really like the places Kirshner/Kasadan and now Johnson, have taken The Force.

If we could just have a whole movie of Force Rabbit Holes with All The Infinite Mirrors while Ben Burt makes ALL THE SOUNDS butwitha lilStereoDelay and theroomreverberates with Lightsaber Thrum...

thatwouldbeniceplease.

Just like, cocoon me in that TFA Takodana lightsaber flashback and I could totally live there the rest of my life.

So, all that to say, there's like a 3% chance they could turn "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant..." into "The force can literally destroy a planet/theuniverse/itself"

All is forgiven.  Fly you crazy diamond.

Except the director part, no takebacks on that.

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Back to that poster tho.  What is that broken pillar thing that Rey and (Kylo? is that you? That's your sword but your head's a little... off) are fighting upon?  It looks kinda familiar, but then Star Wars is full of greebley pillars, so, could be anything...

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I'm not holdin' hope for this one.  I find it very interesting that they've replicated the production process so thoroughly, down to rehiring the writers and doing the director-musical-chairs with the "edgy" guy coming into to do #2, and bringing back the first guy for #3 midway through after picking someother dude.  I hope JJ isn't being asked to method his way into becoming GL.  Anyhoo, with them lining up RoS to Be Our Generations' ROTJ, I'm a little worried we're gonna get the JJ equivalent of Ewoks, which I guess in this case is a movie that plays like a mashup of Transformers, Memento, and a VideoCopilot.com ad. 

With lightsabers!



That said, Ima go seeee it.  But this is the last one I SWEAR.

This is the last Star Wars I watch until they hand the direction over to a woman, which I keep being disappointed by, but not doing anything about.

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He's not just doing slight of hand, but he's so good at selling it the footage looks like it must have been altered, even though it hasn't been.