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(219 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I have one question before I lay down my argument.  I think we are all in agreement that movies are a form of art. If that is so, can you broadly call ALL movies art?  Is Dumb and Dumber as much art as Citizen Kane?  I'm not sure, but I can tell you this; I know many people that would much rather watch Dumb and Dumber than Citizen Kane.  Does that say anything about the artistic value of either, or are both movies still art and its just a matter of taste and preference.  Is a scribble crayon drawing done by my toddler niece any less art than the Mona Lisa.  That crayon drawing has a whole lot more meaning to my niece than the Mona Lisa does.  My point is that art can be very hard to define sometimes and open perspective should always be considered when asking the question, "IS THIS ART?"

That being said, this is the way I see it.  (I stress that I am no authority on the subject except that I enjoy both movies and video games.) If movies are art, than video games have to be art. Because they share ALL of the same elements: Characters, story, setting, antagonists, protagonists, mythos, pathos, ethos, symbolism, etc. It's that simple. If you didn't know video games had all these elements, then you haven't been playing close attention to video games.  If at least some movies are art, than at least some video games are art.

That is my argument. However, that best arguments for video games being art that I have ever encountered have been voiced in the following two videos:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/ … hing-Lives
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/ … -Mechanics

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(4 replies, posted in Creations)

I don't know if I agree with Mo on this.  I think tear jerkers still exist, but they just don't get the attention, hype, backing, and marketing the other blockbusters do.

Also, I don't think movies being made mostly for young men is anything new.  I think it has been that way for awhile.  I can't say that I am not happy about being in that category for which movies are made, but I really get angry when those movies that are supposedly made for someone like me, and they are embarrassingly awful.

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(73 replies, posted in Episodes)

I would love to listen to this commentary, guys, but the new Adobe flash update is causing your player to crash.  This is the fifth time I've restarted the track and had to sync it up to the movie.  THANKS ADOBE! Thanks, alot.

Continued: Alright, got through just fine.

What you guys did is made me realize that most of my objections for twilight come from the second movie and onward.  However, what this movie started I still find objectionable.  You guys said it yourselves, something to the effect of, "I really object to some of the concepts and undertones, but other than that its not that bad..."  Other than that?  THAT is a bad movie to me.  I find the twilight stories very offensive for the reasons you pointed out, that as girl or a woman the most important thing about you is your virginity and who you decide to give that to.  Not to mention its incredibly sexist, making females out to be nothing if they don't have a man around, and men out to be sex objects.  I think that makes a bad movie.  It can't be okay despite of that.  I think those are legitimate reasons to call all of Twilight terrible.

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(133 replies, posted in Episodes)

I like the first two Spider-man movies, but I don't love them.  The things you guys talked about, it being two cartoony, is why I liked it.  Because my background of Spider-man comes from the saturday morning cartoon, light hearted and a little ridiculous.  If Batman was treated like this, I would be yelling bloody murder.  In my mind, Spider-man is for kids, light and easy to understand, cartoony, where Batman is for adults, dark, complicated, and gritty.  I don't disagree with what you brought up, I guess I'm willing to accept it.

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(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

Down in Front wrote:

We're done recording for the year, probably, might do some Christmas movies next week for grins. I think TRON comes out this weekend.

A Christmas Story would be fun to do, but you guys already did the ultimate Christmas movie, Die Hard.

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(57 replies, posted in Episodes)

Hell, as long as you don't call me "too late for dinner."

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(57 replies, posted in Episodes)

Down in Front wrote:

*sigh* Nick.

I can go by Wisconsin, too.  Sounds cool.

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(57 replies, posted in Episodes)

Down in Front wrote:

That's an interesting point, Fireman Wisconsin.

I'm trying to make you sound like Indiana Jones. That doesn't really work with Wisconsin.

Thanks, but you can just call me Nick, if you want.

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(57 replies, posted in Episodes)

I recently listened to some comments on the prequels from a reviewer that I sometimes agree with, and he said some things about Jar Jar that made alot of sense to me.  He said that as far as annoying characters go, Jar Jar is not the most annoying of them all.  I can't think of any that are worse at the moment, but I digress.  He said that the reason Jar Jar comes off as incredibly annoying is because he is not annoying anyone else on screen.  In the first movies C-3PO is very annoying, however, Han is reacting to it.  The audience laughs at Han's reaction because we relate to him.  However, in Jar Jar's case, no one is face-palming at what he does so I'm left to assume that we are expected to laugh, simply, at what he does.  Maybe, if Obi-Wan spent the movie slapping Jar Jar in the back of the head for the whole movie he could have been much more tolerable.  Instead of paying a consequence for his stupidity, he takes out a fucking tank.

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(51 replies, posted in Episodes)

Dorkman, I think I agree more with your initial thoughts on plot vs. story, compared to your final statements.  To me, plot is the events that happen to and around the characters, and the story is how these events look through the characters eyes, and how they react to it.

Very fun commentary guys, thanks so much.  Also, thanks for picking a movie that is streaming on Netflix.

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(15 replies, posted in Episodes)

FYI.  The documentary that was referenced during the commentary was actually called Girl 27.  Keep up the great work gentlemen and thanks for giving me a closer look at this movie which I greatly under-appreciated when I first saw it.

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(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Now that you guys did Monsters, will you do Skyline?  Another low budget sci-fi movie financed completely by its directors.

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(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

Has anyone ever heard of this movie, Stranded?  From the description it sounds like that elusive movie fitting the category of "like Apollo 13 only it hasn't happened yet".  However, from the reviews it sounds like it suffers from poor acting, or its a rip off of Mission to Mars, which I didn't think was very good to begin with.

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(32 replies, posted in Episodes)

BTW.  Here's the dead baby jokes that I know.


What's orange, blue, and sits at the bottom of a pool?

A dead baby with slashed waders.

What swings back and forth and drips?

A dead baby hanging from a meat hook.

What turns in a circle, scratches at a window, and is red all over?

A baby in a microwave.

Whats the difference between a Cadillac a pile  of dead babies?

There isn't a Cadillac in my neighbor's garage.

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(32 replies, posted in Episodes)

Great commentary guys I look forward to the next episode.  However, you got the Wisconsin gun laws wrong.  There is absolutely NO concealed carry here.

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(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Here's something I will be shocked if you do it, but I think if you do it will be bold and epic.

Jesus Christ Superstar

I think it would be insane, but I bet you guys would make it so much fun.

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(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Rampage.  Uwe Boll has made a movie which critics are saying is worth watching, and is well made.  I would like to hear what you guys think of it.

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(43 replies, posted in Off Topic)

1. The Godfather
2. Citizen Kane
3. Gone with the Wind
4. Fist Full of Dollars
5. Apocalypse Now
6. A Clockwork Orange

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(301 replies, posted in Episodes)

I'm really sorry if this question is not posted in the right spot, but I don't know where else to ask it.

Teague, is your sign off, "Goodnight, goodnight," a tribute to Whose Line is it Anyway?  At the end of every episode of the original British version of WLIIA, the host, Clive Anderson, would sign off by saying, "...and I'm Clive Anderson saying goodnight.  Goodnight."

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(301 replies, posted in Episodes)

So we're going to hear you talk about the first appearance of unobatainium in a movie.

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(44 replies, posted in Episodes)

I enjoyed this commentary guys, it was great.  I remember not being thrilled by this movie when I first saw it, however, watching it with you guys I have a new appreciation for it and now desire to purchase it.

I surprised you never when into describing Constantine as an antihero.  I thought he would be an example of the quintessential antihero, being a so unlikable and nontraditional good guy.

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(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

As your making you way through the Alien franchise, will you have a chance to do the Predator movies as well, eventually?

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(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Saved!  A teen movie that takes a hard look at religion.

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(8 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Gregory Harbin wrote:

Orgazmo.

Damn, you're right, and I watched the the Orgazmo commentary, too.

Is there a movie that falls in the genre of comedy that is also a clear example of the Hero's journey.  The only one I could think of that might work is Mystery Men (1999).