This man, this man right ere.

Baumgartner

Agreed, but you know what? She wasn't there. And neither was anyone else. Just the 2 of them in a fucked up situation they had no control over, having to deal with things so over their head.

I think I'm kinda getting at a theme here. NO ONE IN THIS MOVIE IS IN CONTROL OF ANYTHING. EVER. Every one is being manipulated. Right up until the very end. Only at the very end, when it's Dana and Marty, and they had a choice. And they choose each other over the human race. In my opinion a perfectly human thing to do. I would instantly call bullshit on anyone that thinks they could go through all the shit they just went through and then when confronted with a choice like that go..."Well alright then, I'll put all the pros in this column. Mmhmm...and then. I'll put all the cons in this column. Perfect!" No, you would be an emotional wreck barely able to form two cogent words together at the best of times.

Granted in the heat of the moment YOUR reaction might be different, and you might shoot the other person and save the world, but that's not what happened here. That's not what these specific characters did. When faced with the choice between each other and the world, they choose each other. But they chose something, it was a choice. There's nothing logical about the ending, it's purely a chain of base human reactions leading to a situation that led to a single choice that led to this ending.

Which frankly I think is an awesome choice for the film makers to make, not just because it means there's finally a movie where humans don't reign all victorious and the old gods are once again vanquished, but because it doesn't put any actual "this is right" or "This is wrong" on it. It's 2 people made a choice. And now we all die. End of movie.

Frankly I think that's about as close to real human nature and real life as it gets.

North Korea gets a little twitchy tomorrow. One man decides to push a button. A choice. Suddenly I wake up in a nuclear wasteland. Everyone dies. End of story.

EDIT: I think my point may have gotten a bit muddled, so I'll try to lay it out as simply as I can. I think people get to caught up on trying to analyze why Dana and Marty did what they did, as though their actions in that scene are the outcome of level headed thought and analytic thinking, when (I think) the movie makes it perfectly clear that we are dealing with two people on the very brink of their sanity who are given a choice between killing the living human being directly in front of them, the same person they just spent the entire day dealing with this shit with, and who on numerous occasions saved each others ass, or saying enough with the killing let it all burn (An action which has no understandable consequences to them at that moment, it's something so much larger than them, something they can't even begin to comprehend. And so in that moment, the two of them chose the choice they had where they could feel like they're were in control...not killing each other.

Again, logical on the grand scale of the universe? Fuck no. Understandable from these 2 people at that moment, and under those circumstances. Personally I say hell yes. ANd that's why I love it. Because unlike the traditional Hollywood ending this would have, where in some master feat of human purity and goodness they mange to save the universe; CITW says nope, we're human, we fuck up, we're vulnerable, and sometimes that ends bad. End of movie.

I WAS THERE!!!!

<- I got a circle for it

Robin Williams -> Mrs. Doubtfire

Already done did 3 days ago.

Watched Re-Animator last night. It was good old fashioned over the top body horror type of flick. Little slow at points, but I'd call that a product of its time and budget. Thoroughly enjoyed it though.

Jeffery Combs is awesome, it's nice to know that he can just generally do batshit creepy and that's not just a product of Weyoun.

Alright you guys have officially got me interested. Short list for the absolute newbie to Korean cinema (Aka me)?

As much as I usually despise this style of comedy or however you describe...it, I think I might be willing to give this one a shot. John Francis Daley has never done me wrong, neither has Anna Kendrick, plus shes cute as all seven kinds of hell, plus Ken Jeong.... and religion warping. Yeah, alright, I guess I can take a look.

This hit me about 30 seconds ago, and I hate myself that I didn't think of it when I was writing my whole thing before. Sigh.