Sorry for the bump but I just noticed this thread.

I saw it as well and liked it a lot. I found the characters to be well developed an interesting, but the villians, not as such. I knew enough of Norse mythos to know that Loki would end up going bad. I didn't expect his turn and then return.

Spoilers:
The Frost Giants were not enough as villians. They should have been either the final bad guy and threaten Earth in some way, as mentioned before. Though, Loki's attempt to destroy the Frost Giants via the rainbow road seems to threaten the rest of the realms, besides the Frost Giants. At least that was my impression. Someone can correct me.

The best part is the scale of Asgard. The style choices, the costumes, the feel of the world, and landscape all felt appropriate and enough magical to fit the story.

After listening to "Riddick" commentary, I think "Dune" should be done. The 1984 version was supposed to be groundbreaking in several ways. Sounds like perfect DiF material.

I think I figured out the main problem the DiF crew had-it's Vin Disel and they do not seem to react well to him. That is a problem when he is the central actor.

Oh, Matt, what have you done *leaves before the brawl*

I agree with Matt, for the most part, as many of the gripes I heard seemed to be answerable in the movie.

I think that the main problem with Riddick (I will not call it a perfect movie, by any definition) is that the threads were not pulled together in such a way that people could follow it in a linear fashion. Is it enjoyable and entertaining? Yes.

I enjoy the world a lot, and want to see more of it.

For the most part, I agree with Zap.

First of all, you guys did a great job with this commentary. It was entertaining and constructive, without being a total slam fest, which I don't think you want to do. You guys made me think...for good or ill...and here are my thoughts:

1: Plot summary: Every since "Pitch Black" and the statement that that movie could be summed up neatly while "Chronicles" could not. So, I figured that I would summarize it. "The fate of the universe rests with a murderous loner to try and stop a marauding army led by a crazy half-dead." Not perfect, but it works, IMHO.

2. I saw this movie before "Pitch Black," and was not familiar with the movie at all, so the tone and feel did not feel off to me. Yes, it has more of a fantasy epic feel than a hard sci-fi piece, but that does not take away from the film. However, I do agree that they could not decide what kind of movie this was going to be, and that muddies the film a little, making a few scenes feel a little out of place. Overall, though, I think the world is very interesting, and engaging, which drives me to enjoy this movie.

3. Yes, I get the Necromongers  motivation. We are told they will "kill or convert" every human being. In this way, they are not different than the Borg or the Empire in their desire to dominate the galaxy.. I find it interesting that we accept that the Empire in Star Wars as evil but all other bad guys must be defined and defined well.

4. Perhaps the point I want to emphasize the most is that in this movie Riddick has character development. In "Pitch Black" he is just a killer or happens to be able to save them. In "Chronicles" Riddick goes from being a loner, to having some relationships with Kira and Iman. He cares enough to risk going into the middle of the Necro army and take on Iman's killer. He manipulates the Mercs into going to Crematoria where he knows that Kyra is, based on what Iman told him about her. He goes from an anti-hero to reluctant hero, as he is forced to take on the Necro army.
I think people who watch Pitch Black then Riddick have a problem because Riddick goes from player to main character. While Riddick is an interesting from a character standpoint, having him be the main guy upon which the whole movie turns perhaps is a dramatic turn and not everyone reacted well to it. I personally enjoy Disel's performance, but not everyone will.

By the way, know your enemies:
Necromongers:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 … -Vaako.jpg

Necromancer:
http://www.tuckborough.net/images/sauron.jpg

Those are just a few important tips

Oh, the SG geek in me died a little too as I wrote that. The SG movie commentary would be like a consolation prize to me in order for others to appreciate the coolness that is the SG franchise.

On another note, I'm surprised the DiF crew hasn't done any of the X-men movies. I mean, talk about nerdville. Maybe Teague might not cry as much as he did with Spiderman.

I agree, but DiF taking on all 8 seasons is a little daunting task, don't you think? I mean, it sounds cool, but they have not even done Lord of the Rings yet

I agree the series is more enjoyable, but the movie is still a good flik, in my opinion, and worth analyzing.

Back to Pitch Black, since I have no idea what is going on...

I honestly have not watched the movie all the way through, but listening to the commentary made me want to watch it again. I personally prefer Chronicles of Riddick to this film, but as Brian mentioned, I may respond to Vin Disel as an actor, while some may not.

I look forward to the next Riddick commentary, where I will probably be one of the few Vin Disel apologists.