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I've been listening to this now for a month or two on and off - it's great to hear your voice again, Teague, and I've really been enjoying the story. Some very strong choices were made by the authors and it's great to see prequel characters like Maul, Qui-Gon Jinn, Bail Organa, and Padme with the recontextualization afforded by this story. I already like the Jedi of this alternate tale much more than the canon version. Excited to keep hearing and reading!

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I have always been quite partial to Trey's "falling asleep in the water tank" story from The Abyss. And the whole Abyss commentary, really.

I also haven't been over here much.

All things must pass (but I don't want all of them to).

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Yeah, that part was stupid and entirely unnecessary.

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Yeah, the one Doc Sub read is the one I read.  There's no gay Jimmy stuff, Luthor stuff is much better integrated, the whole Kryptonian plot is pretty well done.  It really reads a hell of a lot better than Moriarty's review makes it sound.

I totally enjoyed it.  Sure, Krypton doesn't explode.  Whatever.  Jor-El is still alive, and there's some strange and nebulous religious bullcrap all over the thing (and I say this as a pretty intense believer in Christianity), but there are some amazing elements.  JJ's Lois Lane is a great character in her own right, as firey and passionate a crusading reporter as you could like, able to take care of her own business without needing a rescue all the time.  The scene where she meets Clark outside a frat party that both of them are dragged to is amazing - it makes her the inspiration for his own journalistic career, and really shows how someone like Clark Kent/Superman could truly fall in love with someone like Lois Lane.  Man of Steel took good steps in that direction, but I actually like JJ's version a little more.

And, call me a heretic if you like, I love that Superman's main adversary in all of this was his own upbringing (at least until the Kryptonians show up).  While the Kents loved him and tried to raise him with that love, they also taught him a great deal of self-control, which when others taught him that what he could do was wrong, became repression and a crippling insecurity.  That was pretty similar to Man of Steel, actually.

A lot of the beats of the Air Force One rescue mirror the scene in Superman Returns where Clark rescues the plane, and that plays really really well.

Anyway, sorry for topic derail.

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I've been reading the JJ draft of Superman since you guys mentioned it.  I am LOVING IT, and it is making me A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED that Man of Steel didn't INCLUDE more from it.

(that's actually how he writes in the draft, btw. all caps all over the place - at one point, during the final battle:

THE AUDIENCE WILL GO INSANE)