Topic: What do you give a movie, walking in?

I was having a conversation with Harrell last night, and it morphed into a really interesting discussion of the differences between what he and I "give" a movie at the outset, and eventually how that affects the way we look at movies as a whole.

For instance, he gives any movie a certain amount of credit, sight unseen. "A movie can only lose me," more or less. I was a bit on the other side of things, where any movie can impress me more and more, but it starts somewhere near zero.

Where do you fall on that spectrum? Has the way you experience movies changed over the course of your adult life?

Teague Chrystie

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I try to go into any movie without any excess baggage. I walked into The Descendants and Rise of the Planet of the Apes with about the same mindset. I like the film itself to form an opinion, rather than me forcing my own feelings on the film.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I'm already giving $20 (Imax 3D), two hours of my time, and an open mind. After that, ask not what else I can give to the movie, but what the movie can give to me.

not long to go now...

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I go into every movie with an open mind, but it has to give my brain something worth chewing on in the first ten or fifteen minutes or so, or i'll end up picking it apart the whole time, starting with "This movie still doesn't have a plot that I can see..."

Very rarely can a film shake me out of that nitpicky mindset once it's kicked in.

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rtambree wrote:

I'm already giving $20 (Imax 3D), two hours of my time, and an open mind. After that, ask not what else I can give to the movie, but what the movie can give to me.

This, except for the IMAX 3D part. That's a big hell to the no.

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I watch every movie assuming I'll enjoy it on some level and try to take the movie on its own terms. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed, so I try to avoid expecting much. My biggest disappointments come from hearing that a movie is getting great reviews and then finding it doesn't gel for me.

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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As above. My expectations for what I'm about to see are usually in inverse relation to the amount of marketing it's had.

We pay through the nose to watch a film here ($22 for a regular 3D ticket, $20 for 2 large soft drinks and popcorn). By the time you factor travel it's almost $70 for two people to go out to the movies here. If I'm paying, that film had better give at least be leaving  me with a memorable kiss goodnight.

Sadly, there's no guarantee of quality. I pay more attention to reviews before going to the movies these days. Clear differential between cinema and DVD films.

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When I was in Titanic 3D the other day, they ran a trailer for Prometheus but I closed my eyes, as it's a film I want to see anyway, but want to be surprised. I've been avoiding all press about it

But for normal movies, an enticing trailer and a good Rotten Tomato meter rating (say, over 70%) is sufficient...

not long to go now...

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Ya, it depends on how much hype/praise it's got behind it going in, as well as how much the film-makers had to work with. If I'm watching a sci-fi channel original movie or some direct-to-video action movie I won't pick it apart as much and am more likely to be pleasantly surprised.

The best film experiences for me personally are where I walk into a movie thinking I know what it's going to be and being surprised when it's way better than that (recent examples, Killer Elite, Pandorum, Universal Soldier Regeneration). By contrast, when you walk into a Christopher Nolan movie expecting greatness, it kind of saps a bit of enjoyment because you're more likely to jump on any minor flaw and nitpick it.

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After "Epic Movie", I learned, the hard way, that a trailer can be ever so deceiving. The trailer made the film(IMO, gents) look funny as hell. The trailer shots, however, were the only funny things about it, and put into context, not as much as the trailer led me to believe.

After that, I've pretty much gone into a film knowing as little as possible about it, or remembering watching the trailer, but not exactly what it was about.

Take "How to Train Your Dragon", for instance. I went in knowing NOTHING about it. I didn't even know the damn thing was animated(I'll have you know I pirated it, which explains the latter). All I had was a title.
I've since purchased it on blu-ray, and started my own little project to re-dub it, since my son wanted to see the Norwegian version of it, which sucks.

My point is, though, I try to go in knowing as little as possible, to ensure I won't be disappointed, but rather pleasantly surprised, or at least entertained.

It usually works.

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vidina wrote:

After "Epic Movie", I learned, the hard way, that a trailer can be ever so deceiving. The trailer made the film(IMO, gents) look funny as hell.

http://s18.postimage.org/p2yxaucqx/suspicious_dog_500x364.jpg

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Did you just hotlink an image that doesn't allow hotlinking?

[DORKMAN EDIT: Shut up you.]

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FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL

Stupid no all upper case...gruble grumble..fukin commies

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I go into a movie fully invested for 8 minutes.  Those first 8 minutes the movie can do no wrong, it can be whatever it wants, do whatever it can.  I make absolutely no judgments for 8 minutes.  After that it's gotta start doing something or else my mood will sour, and it becomes increasingly hard to win me over.  Now, this is a much wider net than it may seem.  I'm not saying story beats need to perfectly be laid out, or that a fat dude has to fall off a chair, or all the cars have to explode.  But it has to give me an idea for the ride Im in for, intro characters that do something of note, or pique my curiosity in some way.  People vary in their opinions of Inglorious Basterds, but the first 8 minutes worked for me.  Sleeping Beauty (the new one with the chick from Sucker Punch) is a pretty slow paced movie comprised mostly of one'ers, but something drew me in.  Compare that to a movie like Enter the Void which completely face rapes you with its credits for 2 minutes, before going on (an admittedly well done) DMT trip for 8 minutes.  We're at 24 minutes in before anything actually happens, and all the badass jib shots and neon psychedelia couldn't save it for me.

A great example of the 8 minute rule?  Officer and a Gentleman.  By the time the title comes up you have the main characters back story, his motivation, and an idea of where we're heading.

Eddie Doty

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For me, I can be pretty lenient with a movie when I walk in. I will let it try and sell me on its own merits, and not any trailer hype or other promo material. I don't avoid trailers, but at the same time I put about as much stock in to them as I do As Seen on TV product promos-interesting but ultimately misleading.
I also put just a little more stock in movie reviews, save for one or two. If its a movie I wanted to go see, all the negative reviews in the world will not keep from it. Contrary to that, all the positive reviews about a movie I am not interested in will actually push me further away from a movie.

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Enter the Void's credit sequence.

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fireproof78 wrote:

Contrary to that, all the positive reviews about a movie I am not interested in will actually push me further away from a movie.

This confuses me. Is it just some sort of ingrained urge to rebel against authority or do you just hate finding new things to be interested in?

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BigDamnArtist wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:

Contrary to that, all the positive reviews about a movie I am not interested in will actually push me further away from a movie.

This confuses me. Is it just some sort of ingrained urge to rebel against authority or do you just hate finding new things to be interested in?

I'm a confusing person and honestly could not articulate well the reason why. I can trace it back to high school were my friends would be like, "Dude, this CD/movie/video game/whatever is soooo cool! You have to try it!" and I would be, "Maybe." The more they pushed, the more I became more "Whatever" about it. So, I just must need to rebel against something and it is the movie industry, I don't know  hmm
I'll admit I don't like change, but if I discover the movie on my own and enjoy it, then that is fine. I didn't go to see Fellowship of the Ring in theaters and saw Two Towers with absolutely no information on the movie save for passing conversation with a friend. On the other hand, I watched Chronicle of Riddick in the theater and loved it from the opening scene, so my tastes are perhaps off kilter from others.

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I have to be honest, I get like that too. Not so much with good reviews, but when people I know tell me specifically I have GOT to see something, after I hear that too many times there's a part of my brain that goes "Fuck you! You're not the boss of me!" It's totally stupid but it's a knee-jerk reaction I can't really do anything about. Then I'll hold off on checking something out until I know the idiot resentment towards it has passed and I can give it a fair shake.

This is, incidentally, why I have yet to watch Community or Dr. Who.

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BUT YOU HAVE TO

RIGHT NOW, STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WATCH THEM





If I keep doing this long enough, Dorkman will never see anything.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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Dorkman also has to see Avengers.

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It doesn't work with stuff I already intended to see.

SO THERE

By the way, I'm totally the most pushy person I know about stuff I think others would like/should see. So I'm just a big ol' hypocrite.

/everyone go watch JACKIE BROWN right now

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NO WAY, Tatantino apologist!

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Unfair as it may be, the movie is tied to my predictive abilities. I paid to go see Green Lantern, but I had a good idea that it was gonna suck hard. It did, and the Jack Daniels helped make for a good time. Everyone's happy. The Artist was supposed to be great, but it wasn't. So I rate it worse than I might have going in with zero expectations. So it's a sliding scale, what I give a film walking in.

As rtambree said, I paid money. And while I take advertising with a grain of salt, if you bill yourself as a comedy you damn sure better make me laugh.

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Dorkman wrote:

I have to be honest, I get like that too. Not so much with good reviews, but when people I know tell me specifically I have GOT to see something, after I hear that too many times there's a part of my brain that goes "Fuck you! You're not the boss of me!" It's totally stupid but it's a knee-jerk reaction I can't really do anything about. Then I'll hold off on checking something out until I know the idiot resentment towards it has passed and I can give it a fair shake.

This is, incidentally, why I have yet to watch Community or Dr. Who.

Thank you to Dorkman for saying it better than I...

Though, you really should watch Doctor Who...just sayin' wink

God loves you!

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