Topic: Skyfall (2012) review by Faldor (spoilers)

Skyfall (2012) review by Faldor (spoilers)


There are some Bond films that can be accused of sticking rigidly close to formula. This isn't one.
You could call it 'The World is Not Enough' done right. A Villain with a close connection to 'M', MI6 being closed due to an explosion and a more personal assignment for Bond.

But on the other hand it feels unlike any other film in the franchise. Bond is usually the example held up to show how all those screen writing books are wrong as here is a character who doesn't change but Skyfall is one of the few to give Bond a clear character arc.

Bond is shot in the pre-title sequence and spends three months living the quiet life until he hears about a terrorist attack on London and decides to come in from the cold. He's bitter towards M who ordered him shot and in a training sequence we learn he is no longer the crack marksman he once and as one character remarks in "a young man's game" which gives it a similar tone to Star Trek II which also features a hero dealing with aging. With Craig having signed on for two more films its an odd time to bring such a subject up.

Overall it's a good film and a welcome return to form after Quantum of Solace but refreshingly different from the 'cookie cutter' formula that hold some of the series back.

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Skyfall, celebrating 50 years of Bond, is clearly serving a large portion of fan service. And I bloody loved it because of that.

It's a film which not only progressed Bond and the new universe, but ties in many classic elements which have been put aside for many years.

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I think I speak for all of America when I say that I can't wait for Skyfall to come out here.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I saw this last night. Had to go to an 11:00 showing because the 9:45 was sold out, which I found surprising with a Bond film. I had a very good time with it, but it wasn't the revelation the reviews led me to expect. Pretty much on a par with the previous two Craig films. But MEGA gorgeous and with better acting, perhaps.

My one major complaint is that the Aston Martin had the gadgets, honestly. Because in this continuity it's not from Q branch, he won it off Dimitrios. So when did all that get put in, and why does M know about it? Alternatively, if these films are suddenly meant to be sort of prequels to Dr. No now, he STILL shouldn't have it, because it was new in Goldfinger. Also, the Komodo dragons were shit.

Now, somebody smarter than I am chime in here; is this a sexist movie? Severine is fucking useless and not even Bond gives a shit when she dies. Moneypenny starts as a field agent but is so crazy bad at it that she ends up a receptionist. M dies and gets replaced by a man. Not necessarily sexist on the surface of it, but I think the execution might make it so. M dies because she's shit in a gunfight. That's really all it is. She's so shit she gets shot and drops her gun. Whereas Mallory is so badass that he can get shot, then be pretty much totally fine, scrounge up a gun, and take down some thugs. Just something that's been floating around in my head, I hate being the guy who calls sexism...

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I think it is a bit unfortunate that the film makers try to give Moneypenny an awesome background but basically make her a washout. M's death is fine, but kind of weak on top of the Moneypenny thing. She does come from accounting, after all, rather than field service.

And yes Severine is completely useless. Bond discovers she's a slave and then heroically uses her just to get to Silva and daringly doesn't do anything to save her. Nice work, James.

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I think the biggest negative I can throw at this one is that it's lacking in the action department.

Casino Royale kicked so much ass in terms of action film-making, and had at least 4 classic action scenes.
This one has a great opening, and a cool finale, but I agree with Zarban that the movie felt kind of dull throughout the middle when it decided to turn into the Dark Knight. Just in terms of number of set-pieces, this is one of the least action-packed entries in the series, to where it doesn't even feel like a bond movie throughout much of it.

That being said, this movie is also stunningly gorgeous, I love all the Shanghai and Maccau stuff (though the fight in the Komodo pit should've been longer, as per Bond tradition).

I think what's interesting is how original this one is in context of the bond films. Going in I thought this was going to be more of a throwback to the Connery-era films, but it wasn't anything like that either. I love that the last third turns into basically an old school Charles Bronson flick.

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I wasn't especially wowed by the film, but enjoyed it nonetheless. I don't think it holds a candle to most of the classic or Brosnan Bonds, but is probably better than Casino Royale and definitely better than Quantum of Forgetfulness.

Severine isn't really any different from most Bond girls, the expectation that she do something more is misguided. Remember, most Bond films have two Bond girls, the first of whom dies early.

The real Bond 'girl' in this one is actually M.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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not long to go now...

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I don't think that was an actual hint that Bond is bisexual, I think he was just proving to the bad guy that he is unflappable. Silva was trying to see if he could freak out the straight man but Bond doesn't care and played along. That's how I saw it anyway. He was keeping cool 'under pressure'

And there were two females in Skyfall, you (and I) may not have found them attractive but others do (like the director, clearly). Also, Bond did sleep with Sévérine and that bird on the island he washed up on. So, considering he sleeps with two women in the film and no dudes, I think it's safe to say he's straight big_smile

Also, I'd say pretty much everybody is useless in Skyfall. Bond basically does lose at the end.......

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This is another really weird thing with the Craig era bonds. They have yet to actually show him being a good agent in any capacity.

Casino Royale (and to an extent Quantum) were all about Craig being a young fresh rookie, so he consistently fucks up pretty much every aspect of his mission (shoots up an embassy, kills the bomber guy he's chasing, gets caught/tortured, gets double-crossed by the bond girl and loses the money, again consistently kills off all his leads in Quantum).
Then with Skyfall we've now suddenly skipped all the time when he was supposedly a good agent, so now he's old and out of shape, and consistently fucks up every aspect of his mission in this movie (doesn't get the hard-drive thief, lets the assassin kill the guy in Shanghai, lets Severin die, lets Silva escape, doesn't save M).

It's actually kinda crazy, to where I'm thinking....Why the fuck is M even sending him on this super important mission, he seems to be the worst fucking agent ever.

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I think these films are still pretty much leading up to Bond being a super-spy. We just got Q and Monypenny in Skyfall, so they're getting there, I guess big_smile

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That would have worked if they hadn't repeatedly implied Bond was too old. It would have been better if the talk was about MI6 having outlived its mission, making double-0s dinosaurs. But then the end wouldn't have worked because the bad guy is a FORMER AGENT, which just reinforces the idea that MI6 is more problem than solution.

Now would have been just the time to drop SPECTRE into the mix and end on an anonymous dude with a cat in his lap. SCREENWRITING IS EASY, SONY.

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I thought the motorcycle chase on the rooftops was pretty poorly done, something about the compositing on the close-ups made it look very fake.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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That jumped out at me as well, some nasty face replacement.

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I only noticed it in like 1 shot, I wouldn't make a big deal out of it considering how many insane practical stunts they pulled off for this. Seeing that behind the scenes and realizing they actually had those guys fighting it out on a moving train with minimal wires is kind of insane.

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I don't think we're making a big deal out of it, but that shot noticeably distracts the audience and pulls them out of the film.

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I didn't even notice it.  hmm

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Well, we're nerds.

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