Not many people here are actually saying it is a bad movie, though. It is fun, it is just that there are some points that certain people have problems with. You should go and see it if you want to, those points may not bother you

I've been mostly okay with this second Abrams trek because I consider it to be the big dumb fun movie that I didn't know the first one was (not to say that Nemesis wasn't stupid). This time, I knew what I was going in for and enjoyed myself a lot more than when I watched Trek09.

As long as one doesn't go in expecting the usual cerebral quality of Star Trek, it's great fun. It's not Prometheus.

Make it R rated and you've got me on board.

if you're gonna do the Borg, it needs to be fucking terrifying and body horror to the max.

Plus, I would love to that version of the Borg.

I'd worry that someone like that would essentially become a puppet for a Paramount committee.

Just thinking about it, I'd like to see an Enterprise era movie. You know, a film about mankind meeting new aliens, fumbling about in new places, seeing spacial anomalies that baffle them, and doing stuff an exploration ship would do using new technology that they don't really know how to use and which half the time isn't working properly.

And I like to see a crew that's actually developing their relationships on screen.