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The Falcon IS a piece of shit, and that's part of why we have such affection for it. It's a smuggler's ship. Han was a blue collar type, and the Falcon was his work vehicle for hauling loads, almost like an space UPS truck or an 18-wheeler. Is a Mack truck that's been in service for many years a piece of shit? It may well be--in the sense that it's not a luxury vehicle with leather seats, not a hot rod, not a limo. But the trucker who's driven it all those years might think it's the best vehicle ever, might have given it a name. Are there "better" vehicles? Hell yes. But old Susie gets the job done, even if she doesn't always work perfectly. That's the Falcon. (I like to imagine that Han's Kessel Run record had more to do with savvy smuggler piloting skills than having a fast ship, even if Han likes to brag about the Falcon.)

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I still think the final duel started off as an inside joke. I can see the story meeting right now...

"Hey, I've got an idea! Lets have a lightsaber fight in a forest! No one has ever done that before!'

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That fight immediately had me planning an extravagant scene where saplings are being sliced with every swing. Then they started doing that on screen.

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82 (edited by redxavier 2015-12-22 14:50:57)

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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I don't know, after seeing it three times, I can't remember a single new theme. The music seems pretty forgettable. And this is from a guy who, as a kid, would listen to the Star Wars record on our hifi and watch the movie in my head.

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84 (edited by Hansen 2015-12-22 20:29:45)

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I'd say you should try listening to the soundtrack to this one then. There is some really good stuff there along with the classic themes.

Rey's theme is great and very recognizable once you know what to listen for. Kylo Ren and Finn also got their own solid themes, but not nearly as developed as Rey's.

I do think that JJ's approach doesn't lend itself as well to showcasing the music as George's did. Because the movie doesn't stop to breath as much, the music doesn't feel as integral to the storytelling as it did in the other movies.

I'd definitely say that John Williams delivered. But then again, I'm not one of those crazy people who thinks he's been on autopilot for twenty years. So I would say that  tongue

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I've been in and out of hospital over the last week but was finally able to watch it yesterday and loved every moment of it.

The best use of Chewbacca of any of the films!

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90 (edited by BigDamnArtist 2015-12-23 10:26:19)

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91 (edited by Saniss 2015-12-23 10:46:30)

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Which brings me to one of my only big issues with character interactions in TFA (I might write a full review some day but I need a second viewing) : they don't acknowledge Chewie's loss. When they get back on the Resistance planet, who comforts Leia? Rey. Who met everyone a few days ago. Chewie just walks by. It really felt wrong to me.

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There is one shot of Chewie obviously mourning Han in between Leia and Rey comforting each other and Artoo waking up. It's fairly brief, and I too would have liked some interaction between Leia and Chewie, but it's not like there's nothing there.

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93 (edited by Zarban 2015-12-24 11:29:59)

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I loved the first two acts. The third act fizzled fast.
1. Rey going from no force knowledge to controlling a storm trooper and then fighting a powerful dark force user was lame. Even if Ren was wounded and trying to take her alive, it seems he completely forgot he has this ability to freeze people with the force. That would have been smart, obvious, and him not even trying took him from being a powerful but conflicted character to being an IDIOT. I lost all sense of a compelling villain after that fight.

2. They repeated the third act of a new hope and rotj almost point for point: death star, bigger death star, even Bigger death star. Which would have been GREAT if they FAILED. I thought for one minute that this movie would end with the death star 3 being unharmed and the resistance (totally not the rebels) having to run for it and deal with it in the next movies.
Nope.
They win. It ends with a ship flying in through a hole and blowing it up from the inside. After the people on the ground disable the shields from the inside (due to an oddly pushover Phasma).

They could have subverted all expectations by having the good guys fail their primary mission (still saving Rey so it's not a complete downer). But they chose to repeat the old thing almost exactly.

To sum up, JJ made another Star Trek Into Darkness

Witness me!

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I feel like we've covered the duel a lot already, but as for Rey mind tricking the trooper:

I don't think that's at all a stretch because exactly one scene prior we saw Kylo breaking into her mind and her fighting back. We know she's just witnessed someone use the Force to attempt to read a mind and that she's resisted it; it's not a big leap from breaking into minds to suggesting those minds do things. And it's not as if she succeeded at first either, it took three tries.

At the end of the day Luke using the Force to take down the Death Star would seem to come out of nowhere as well, but we all accept that just fine. Not sure why this scenario is any different.

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96 (edited by Writhyn 2015-12-24 23:29:25)

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It just hit me again: the bad guys built a third superweapon with a single weak spot capable of destroying the whole thing.

But that is a good point about the mind control, Praxus

Witness me!

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Maybe we'll get some interesting backstory about Rey in the next film that mitigates it, but for now being able to use the Force with no training is a major break with canon. The prequels make it clear that Jedi normally trained intensively for years before even becoming knights. Luke got some training but more important he got guidance from Obi-Wan's ghost WHILE trying to destroy the Death Star.

It's the difference between being coached on making a souffle while you make the souffle vs spontaneously making a souffle after someone hits you with a souffle pan.

99 (edited by Abbie 2015-12-24 23:58:01)

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The prequels also have Anakin using the Force to survive podracing despite being untrained. And Obi-Wan's training for Luke amounts to little more than what Rey had from Maz--a brief lecture in the nature of the Force and its binding effect on life, plus a vague "Stretch out with your feelings!". Plus, again, Rey had just gone through being mind raped by the Force, which while twisted is its own sort of demonstration.

Plus, honestly, screw the prequels in that regard. The Force is magic, and George trying to bind it up with hierarchy and rules and such was one of the worst aspects of those films.

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We cut away after her first couple attempts to mind control and cut back when she gets it. I like to imagine that there's a whole bunch more failed attempts in the meantime while she figures it out. I just picture the stormtrooper getting more and more confused and pissed off, but unable to really do anything to Rey without risking pissing off Kylo Ren, so he's just kinda cussing her out while she tries to tell him what to do.

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