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Sorry, I just wanted to hear this again. This was the last time Johnny did a damn thing worth talking about for this series. (And I really like and respect a lot of the latter prequel music. But seriously.)

In fact, this is what "faster and more intense" sounds like when you say it to John Williams.

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Also, let us not forget Alexandre Desplat.

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It's hard to describe it, Incredibles is "big" in a different way. Incredibles is explicitly playing around in classic James Bond John Barry scores, it's a great score and my favorite of his, but it's not the kind of big I'm talking about. That one is more of a 50s/60s espionage homage.

I'm talking the big-scale fantasy scores that get you absolutely pumped up, like a Star Trek 2, Lord of the Rings, Independence Day, Conan Barbarian type of big, where the movies are built around big battles and the score sweeps you along and drives the movie. The kind of thing James Horner used to do in his prime.
Examples:


That type of scoring has almost entirely died out as of late, we see much more stuff in the modern hans zimmer vein (which is also excellent, but doesn't fit for a classical adventure series like Star Wars).

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bullet3 wrote:

I've said it before, Giachinno is a brilliant composer, but he can't write "big" music to save his life, he's great for thrillers and mid-scale stories, but not the guy you want on Star Wars.

I personally think this is pretty 'big'-

Not saying I'd pick him but I think he'd bring it if he had to score a Star Wars film. I really enjoy some of his stuff, especially his work on Lost.

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I'm a huge fan of Vangelis, whose epic score for Alexander raised that film's quality several notches. Oh, and he did Chariots of Fire and Blade Runner too.

These two are my favourites.


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Of course, Jermey Soule!!! I forgot about that completely, but man that guy is perfect.
His work on Guild Wars 2 and Total Annihilation is absolutely amazing

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Also, Skyrim. What an epic OST, damn.

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If we do work through various directors and composers, realize that we'll surely get to Michael Bay and Hans Zimmer at some point.

While you're shuddering, why not consider Thomas Newman as a composer? He's got the chops and the range: Finding Nemo, American Beauty, Skyfall, The Player.

Or draft in someone oriental, like Joe Hisaishi or Nobuo Uematsu.

Or someone 'serious', like John Adams.

Otherwise, if we could somehow put David Arnold, Michael Giacchino and John Powell in a talent blender, I think it might work.

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Daft Punk?

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Mindless Self Indulgence?

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BBQ has the right idea.

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The username alone is making me hungry.

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Been looking for an excuse to post this gif for so long. Still don't really have one but it is of Geaorge Lucas. And he is making eyes at you......

http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh555/shiftybench/T8SlN.gif

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Was that a haemorrhoids commerical or something?

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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I'm guessing Viagra.

/How YOU doin?

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/d … ill-384947

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/31/m … ii-disney/

The thought of Mark Hamill back playing Luke Skywalker...it gets me all giddy!

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Dammit! As we get further and further from the initial shock and surprise, I'm finding myself being more and more positive about this.

I think my initial concern mostly came from a place of not wanting another ten years of arguing about Star Wars on the internet.

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My thoughts. In order.

1. I honestly thought GL was going to have to die before I let myself feel any optimism about new Star Wars.
2. Leia is now a Disney Princess.
3. They will systematically mine the franchise in increasingly depressing and cynical ways until it stops making any money.
4. I must just reconcile myself mentally to separating the actual three Star Wars movies from the rest of the dross, and remain hopeful that in between Star Wars 14 - the search for Jar Jar and 'Revenge of the Ewoks', there might be a watchable movie. I just need to not think of it as a Star Wars movie.

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So good discussion, but the one thing that didn't really get brought up, and I can see why, it would have really delved deep into the "inside baseball & speculation" side of things. Was the acquisition of ILM by Disney, and what that may mean both as artists & for the industry as a whole.

Granted pure VFX has never been a true focus, but it has always been a side point, and with that many folks on one roundtable, was a bit shocked it didn't even get a mention.

Otherwise, great discussion.

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Just imagine all the Slave Leias in next year's Disney Princess Parade.   big_smile

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Snail wrote:

Just imagine all the Slave Leias in next year's Disney Princess Parade.   big_smile

I don't think she's any more slutty than Jasmine, is she?

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Teague wrote:

Giacchino. End of story, has to be Giacchino.

I will fight Bullet to the death. And he's a bullet.

I'm with Teague on this one. I enjoyed the new Star Trek music very much and thought it gave good scope to the movie. And I would take Hans Zimmer on this one too.

I also think Gore Verbinski would do a great job, especially given the fact that the
OT was partially inspired by Eorl Flynn:
http://reprog.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/anakin-vs-obi-wan.jpg
Ok, well, moving on...

God loves you!

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The more I think about it, the more I come down on the side of two choices:

Option 1: Make a full-bore epic trilogy to lay the foundation of what I've decided I will call Star Wars: The Next Generation (SW:TNG). That gives you 3 movies to lay everything out and build from, wiping the prequels and the ill will towards them off the map. If you do this -- Peter Jackson.

Option 2: Jump right into the Bond-style movie every couple of years plan. Brad Bird or Gore Verbinski could easily pull off a movie that could be very good without trying to do "everything" in 120 mins.

Chatting with Brian, he also tossed out another name (for option 2) that could be interesting...Darren Aronofsky. He was inches away from directing a Wolverine movie, so it's not like he's unwilling (or unable) to stray from the art house. He clearly has the talent for characters and an eye for visuals. I'd put him right behind Bird & Verbinski, if only because they both have more established records for what I think Disney will be looking for.

All told, I'm not coming down on either side (terrible or great) because we won't have anything to even base positivity/negativity on for several months. Admittedly, it's tough to imagine it getting "worse" than the prequels, but how many times have we been burned by that thought before?

For now, my state is "Cautiously Hopeful".

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Great episode considering how short notice the thing is.

LucasFilms (or is it Disney now? or the mouse house?) said it won't be the Zahn trilogy will not be episode 7. IT WILL BE ORIGINAL CONTENT. Oh boy.
http://www.eonline.com/news/358685/star … ilm-source

Also, Teague, do you reckon there's gonna be a more in depth discussion about episode 7 this weekend? Or is it more back to the usual schedule i.e. what's been planned?

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BBQ wrote:

The more I think about it, the more I come down on the side of two choices:

Option 1: Make a full-bore epic trilogy to lay the foundation of what I've decided I will call Star Wars: The Next Generation (SW:TNG). That gives you 3 movies to lay everything out and build from, wiping the prequels and the ill will towards them off the map. If you do this -- Peter Jackson.

Option 2: Jump right into the Bond-style movie every couple of years plan. Brad Bird or Gore Verbinski could easily pull off a movie that could be very good without trying to do "everything" in 120 mins.

Chatting with Brian, he also tossed out another name (for option 2) that could be interesting...Darren Aronofsky. He was inches away from directing a Wolverine movie, so it's not like he's unwilling (or unable) to stray from the art house. He clearly has the talent for characters and an eye for visuals. I'd put him right behind Bird & Verbinski, if only because they both have more established records for what I think Disney will be looking for.

All told, I'm not coming down on either side (terrible or great) because we won't have anything to even base positivity/negativity on for several months. Admittedly, it's tough to imagine it getting "worse" than the prequels, but how many times have we been burned by that thought before?

For now, my state is "Cautiously Hopeful".

You forgot 'Option 3' - the Star Trek option - let the thing flail wildly, with only commercial interest at the helm, and no one with any real commitment to the franchise except as a banner to get people into theaters and sell toys.

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