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Not knowing anything about the franchise, the trailer has me interested. I like alien invasion/'today we celebrate our independence day type' movies so I'll probably see this. If only to see jets flying around in the sky and spaceships doing their thing. The only dodgy thing about this is kids.
I couldn't care less about who wrote the books this is based on, or about their personal politics. Most people we meet in life are going to say or think things that we disagree with, and rummage around enough in any closet and I'm sure we'll find something dumbass, racist, sexist or selfish things either said or done. You can't really be absolutionists about these things, and so you end up being selective with your outrage, or worst, obliviously prejudiced.
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I think that Gibson and Polanski are different stories. Gibson said some heinous things once while drunk. Polanski also did a disgusting thing once. OSC actively and continuously supports a cause that I find despicable. If I buy Rosemary's Baby on DVD, Polanski isn't going to donate his cut to pedophile groups. OSC will use his cut of my ticket for Ender's Game to support anti-gay organizations, and I'm not cool with that.
Exactly! Well put, Doc 
Also, my point is why shouldn't Dorkman boycott anything OSC does? It's easy for me for example to say I won't as I am not being directly influenced by his hatred. If he (or anyone) said he hated Scottish people and actively supported anti-Scots groups, I think I'd have the right to be pissed off and not see the film based on his work.
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It's very depressing that everyone has to inject politics into one of the most fascinating books of my childhood.
FWIW, Speaker was better.
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It's very depressing that everyone has to inject politics into one of the most fascinating books of my childhood.
FWIW, Speaker was better.
This I agree with. My friend said to read Ender's Game only because I wanted to write military sci-fi. I walked away from that book very confused and not impressed.
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I'm currently reading the book and really bloody enjoying it.
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I'm listening to the audio book again. I think it is one of those where what you get from it depends on what you're bringing to it. Not pavement, but rather how you're willing to consider the points it brings up. It's not as smart as it thinks it is, but it presents interesting ideas.
One thing I've realized is the movie is going to toss out almost all the fun stuff. I just can't see the film being this... psychologically cruel to the hero. Also, I doubt the first third of the film will have a 6 year old Ender.
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Yea I don't like OSC but I enjoyed the book a lot so I'll probably end up watching the film.
Some things to note are that they completely scrapped out the whole Valentine and Peter part of the book. Which sucks because it was one of my favourite parts, but I guess they would have some trouble keeping it all in and having it make sense. Also the star (Asa Butterfield) did an AMA on reddit a few days ago. He said that they keep in the children death parts, but the movie is rated PG-13 so that kind of speaks for itself.
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I don't think they're completely scrapping the Val + Peter bits. I mean, they cast (and are marketing) Abigail Breslin as Valentine, so they're probably not going to have her in just two scenes.
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What's going to be missing is the age jump. In the trailer, we see a teen Ender. Ender at 6, at 10, undergoing all this is where the movie will probably deviate the most. Seeing a 6 year old kill a classmate, kicking him over and over when he's down...
As for Val, I suspect we'll see her part and Petra's be rather large, to make up for the all male cast.
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I read Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide and Speaker was a really good bit of sci-fi where as Xenocide... yeah that sure did continue.
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Invid wrote:
I'm listening to the audio book again. I think it is one of those where what you get from it depends on what you're bringing to it. Not pavement, but rather how you're willing to consider the points it brings up. It's not as smart as it thinks it is, but it presents interesting ideas.
One thing I've realized is the movie is going to toss out almost all the fun stuff. I just can't see the film being this... psychologically cruel to the hero. Also, I doubt the first third of the film will have a 6 year old Ender.
Well, there is potential there if they go more with Ender's point of view in that Ender never knows that he killed the kid, or the extent of the damage that he had done. So really, the could just paint the commanding officers as complete and total psychotic people using this kid.
Yes, I'm sure they will reduce the really nasty stuff but there are ways to have it there but more as subtext, which is something the book does.
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