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This movie only just opened in the UK, about.... like.... like.... 14 years after you guys in the USA have already seen and forgotten it.

But, bloody hell, that was fantastic! Saw it in IMAX 3D - the long takes and suspense and cinematography and fancy camera moves were just amazing. Makes all those endless superhero movies boring by comparison. Movie of the year so far!

not long to go now...

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I saw it in 3D, which I usually do not like but I absolutely loved this film. It was so bloody good.

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Just saw it today and wow, is this the best movie of all time ever in the history of the universe or what?

Sure you can quibble and nitpick (I did on a couple of things) but what a spectacular, beautiful, tense movie. I literally cannot remember the last time I was so enthralled by a story and in sheer awe of what I was seeing. That I saw it at the IMAX in 3D was the cherry on the proverbial icing.

Loved all the details and most of all how it trusted the audience to understand what was going on. There seemed very little pandering to idiots. I would bet that in any other movie, Stone would have commented to herself on how she was feeling the effects of gravity as she lay on that beach trying to get up.

To borrow a phrase; Gravity is a perfect movie and if you don't agree then you're Hitler.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Well, I've only seen it the once and didn't notice anything especially egregrious about that scene. I thought Bulloch's performance was pretty great throughout, it seemed like a real, genuine character - her voice would break a little when she raised it and the range of emotions that played out on her face on her journey home and in her eyes was exemplary.

Do you really mean it was awful, or was it actually just less awesome than the rest of the movie?

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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That was the way I saw it as well.

So... perfECT!

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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In fact, that's my favorite scene in the movie, and elevates it over just being a genre disaster movie.

Also, just an observation, but between Gravity and Europa Report, I'm really loving the resurgence of secular scientists as movie protagonists.

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Wow, that scene actually worked for all you guys? It seemed obviously bad to me. Whatevs. I'm never going to love this movie as much as most people. It's a visual marvel with some cool symbolism. Not the greatest sci-fi movie ever, or even the greatest movie of the year.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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The scene worked fine for me. It's an awkward beat but it's also a human beat, which is what matters. It's not my favorite scene -- that would be the scene where she's trying to detach the parachute while the world ends around her -- but it didn't strike me as false.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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89 (edited by bullet3 2013-11-14 16:49:21)

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Well, I strongly disagree. It's a beautiful meditative moment, where in this dark void of space when she's at her lowest point, she's able to get comfort and solace from a human being in a completely different culture and language. This idea of humanity as one entity in a universal sense.

It's exactly the kind of scene you would almost never get in this kind of movie, and it gives the movie a greater weight than just being a procedural space movie with no larger ambitions.

Edit: Also, the short-film on the blu-ray will have the story of the character on the other end, which I'm really curious to see.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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91 (edited by bullet3 2013-11-14 17:00:05)

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I just think what you're describing isn't as interesting for a story set in Space. Space is this giant landscape that makes it ripe for metaphor and larger statements about humanity. Particularly with a movie taking place around the orbit of the entire planet. If you're purely going to use the setting for just a minimalist survival thriller with no larger context or statement, there's no real reason to set it in space in the first place, aside from challenging yourself technically. It becomes just another Open Water or Buried, with just the gimmick of Space being the hostile force around the character instead of water or dirt. I think it's a waste of time to spend 4 years making a photo-real space drama like that with no larger human context and nothing to say.

I think I was the reverse of you, where the 1st trailer made me think it was just gonna what you describe, and then I was pleasantly surprised that the movie was much more humanist and layered than it originally looked.

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Yeah, but the other problem is that Gravity doesn't have a whole lot to say. There's some conception/birth imagery which is interesting but I don't understand what this whole "grand vision about humanity" is that you're talking about. What did you get out of it that I didn't?

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Well, just off-hand, I'd say the whole thing works as a depression metaphor, the idea of being adrift and wanting to retreat away and give-up, and the importance of "planting your feet" back in reality and living your life despite the hardships, because it's worth the ride. As you point out, this whole process is also framed with the rebirth imagery. There's also a theme of cross-cultural connection, we are one humanity. Whether it's the shared moment on the radio, or the different religious relics we prominently see on each country's ship. There's definitely a bit of a religious message running through it actually, with the astronauts transmissions to Houston "in the blind" acting as a form of prayer. "Just because you can't hear them doesn't mean they can't save your life".

I'd need to see it again to dig into it, and you're right, none of this is cutting edge, but I don't think it has to be, and it's definitely there.

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I like all of those interpretations a lot. It's still not what I wanted the film to be, but for what it is, Gravity kicks ass 99% of the time.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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It's absolutely one of the greatest movies I've ever seen — but not because of the writing. Certainly not. The dialogue is downright second-rate, if you ask me, but it doesn't ruin the movie for me, obviously, since I've gone back to see it three times.

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Apart from the stunning VFX (those render times must have been horrendous), I enjoyed the fact that the movie was NOT about saving humanity. There was no portal to close that was about to let an alien invasion take place. There was no evil super villain.

Having only two characters and lots of still scenes and long takes make excellent use of the 3D. Other 3D movies suffer by having too many edits, shaky cam, and too much action for the brain to process.

A couple of minor downsides: the 'gotta get back on the horse' character-arc sub-plot was a bit forced, and a couple of physics quibbles (fire extinguisher, Clooney sacrifice).  Not enough to ruin the movie though. No where near it.

not long to go now...

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not long to go now...

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98 (edited by redxavier 2013-11-16 04:30:33)

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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God loves you!

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I just read on another forum a dude saying the FX in Gravity weren't all that special. Doesn't seem to matter that most of the bloody film was CG and he probably didn't even notice.

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