Re: The Avengers. Warning, spoilers all over the place.

Squiggly_P wrote:
Doctor Submarine wrote:

The review I wrote for my blog ended up being very negative, which is strange, because I had a great time while watching the movie. However, I left it feeling totally empty. Delicious but unsatisfying.

So it's like the film equivalent of chinese food? Tastes great, but an hour later you need to go watch it again?

Yup. And in fact I did! I saw it twice in the same day, assuming that it would be better the second time around. Still nothing.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I wow dude...I don't even know how I can communicate with you. You're like some sort of alien...

/pokes Doc with a stick/

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Just read Doc's review.

I like reading Doc's reviews.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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I like it when people read Doc's reviews.

You should read Doc's reviews.

http://filmisawayoflife.wordpress.com/2 … -avengers/

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I vehemently disagree with your assertion that the film's mostly taking place on the airship is a flaw. I, personally, was relieved when I saw that they were mostly staying on the ship. I was so worried that they'd try to go to twenty different locations and be intercutting separate scenes of the various heroes tracking down different targets or something and only coming together at the end, etc. Something more Star Wars Episode 6 or 2 until the final battle scene. I was so glad they didn't do that.

Also, I would encourage you to not read superhero comics, as they are mostly pulp trash. The only one I've read that I actually keep up with is "Powers", which is more of a detective/comedy that happens to have superheroes in the background (the main characters are just regular cops / detectives).

Check out Blade of the Immortal, though that series is quite long and still not quite finished. I've recently started reading Mouseguard and am liking them a lot. Nothing happens in superhero comics because the ongoing books have to adhere to the 'universe' rules. You can't do anything without it being aproved by the big wigs, or you have to do something because the big wigs say so to keep in-line with the other books in the same universe. In reality, you kinda have to buy ten or more books sometimes to really understand what the fuck is happening at any given time in the marvel universe, cause you can pick up a Spiderman book that references something that happened in Fantastic Four last month. It's exhausting to try to keep up with it all sometimes.

And they wonder why comics have stopped being a thing. Superhero comics are directly comparable to Pro Wrestling. Same shit, different day. Good guys, bad guys, mostly just a soap opera for testosterone-saturated teenagers and dorks who never grew out of them.
... also directly comparable to most console videogames for the same reasons...
There are a lot of good comics, tho. Avoid the spandex.

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Re: The Avengers. Warning, spoilers all over the place.

Squiggly_P wrote:

I vehemently disagree with your assertion that the film's mostly taking place on the airship is a flaw. I, personally, was relieved when I saw that they were mostly staying on the ship. I was so worried that they'd try to go to twenty different locations and be intercutting separate scenes of the various heroes tracking down different targets or something and only coming together at the end, etc.

See, that's exactly what I wanted to see. This should have been an epic film, but in order to do that it needed scope. Things happen so quickly that nothing comes across as important.

"Oh no, Loki separated the Avengers! That was his master plan that we spent the last 45 minutes building up to! How will they ever...oh, they're already back together again?" Talk about anticlimactic.

Ironically, that's the main reason that I tend to avoid superhero comics. They have too much scope, they're impossible to follow without buying and reading every single book, like you mentioned.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Yeah, I can see where you're coming from by wanting something with bigger scope and more threatening situations. Just a personal preference, like you said in the review. I found it refreshing to see a big budget movie not try to do that.

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

The one piece of fridge logic (Well...fridge logic I got immediatly after he said it, I forget if we have a word for that) was Hulks, "I'm always angry" thing. Maybe I just don't understand Hulk, but if thats how he's been managing to contain Hulk for a year and a half, (except when he falls through the floor?) shouldn't he ALWAYS be the rage hulk that emerged on board the ship? It might have worked stronger with more of a focused character thing, or maybe I just missed something. Someone please fill me in.

I took that to be similar to how you can "fool" a lie detector by starting the test in an excited state, so lying creates no change. He's always angry, so it takes something REALLY big (like falling through the floor) to set him off. It's not about being angry, but the change in emotional state. The fridge logic part is how that lets him then become Hulk at will.

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Didn't the Norton movie explain that his Hulk transformation is based on heart rate? And at the end of that movie it showed him meditating. Maybe he learned to control his heart rate, like a monk. I'm pretty sure the old TV show had a plotline dealing with that.

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Like I said. It needed something more.

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Dave wrote:

Did your showing get cheers when, in Stark's penthouse, the Hulk smashed Loki mid-monologue?

In the screening that I saw....Yes!
In fact, it got to the point the people were cheering and laughing so loudly, that you couldn't hear some of the lines delivered. In this very scene, after Hulk smashes Loki into the ground like a ragdoll, he says something as he is walking away. I couldn't hear because of the cheering/laughing, but, if you watched his mouth, it looked(to me) like Hulk was saying: "Asshole." as he walked away.

A friend of mine, who saw this earlier, told me that this wasn't the case. Hulk says something to the effect of "Puny god" ..... or... "Puny weakling."

I guess this makes sense, but, wouldn't it be better if the Hulk was just tired of LOKI's bullshit, smashes him into the ground, and afterwards, he says: "Asshole." ???
I think so.

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He's say's 'puny God'. smile

'Asshole' isn't something Hulk would say.

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We had the same thing in our screening.  In fact there was more than one time where the audience was cheering and laughing so hard you couldn't make out the film.  I'm pretty sure things calmed down in enough time to hear Loki's slow, painful groan of exhalation.

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I never really had that. I went to a noon screening and the theater was maybe 1/2 full. There was a couple spots of pretty solid laughing (Usually Hulk... his Thor punch got pretty heavy laughter), and there was one guy that would clap every once and a while. But otherwise not so much.

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I only goto big blockbuster movies in the first couple weeks just cause the audience is half the fun for me. My theater was rolling through half the movie. Pretty much every decent joke got quite a bit of laughs. A lot of the Cap / Stark banter, Stark zapping Banner got a lot, and every joke made in the last half hour or so got huge laughs. The Hulk smashing Loki scene had some people laughing for a good minute afterwards.

I thought he said "demigod", but "puny god" kinda makes more sense.

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