Did Ryan work on this one? Rey totally stole Dorkmans gold saber from RvD

Holy...shit...you're not at all wrong. It's like when Batman jumps out of the window to catch Rachel and lands on the car -- THE JOKER IS STILL UP THERE, WTF HAPPENED? DID HE AND HIS GOONS JUST LEAVE?

Dude wow that's really bad.

Don't worry I'm sure the new good guy fleet will be powerful enough to take out the First Order's fleet

...oh wait, the First Order destroyers *don't* have 'one weird weakness' that enables a single fighter to take out the whole ship with a few BLASTER SHOTS. (seriously, Palps??)

I mean, they probably don't.

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I didn't hate "Rise Of Skywalker" as a movie it began, middle and ended better than some of the prequels. You will note that I say some of the prequels which is already pretty damning. (Sorry Owen) I should mention that I have only seen the film the once and with the previous few films my opinion shifted after a second watch.

When the sequels were announced my biggest concern was that the significance to Vader's sacrifice in return of the Jedi would be diminished. By having the Emperor return it rather is, however I must admit to being quite positive to the reveal in the trailer that he would be back as Ian McDiarmid is just fun to watch on screen. He is by far the biggest highlight of “Revenge of the Sith”. Which makes it such a shame that Rise Of Skywalker made such little use of him. Frankly his character could have been any Tom, Dick or Exar Kun.

I never had a problem with the characterisations of “The Last Jedi” and it is a crying shame to see some of the most interesting choices made in Star Wars in recent years completely walked back. The supposed it revelations made about Rey raise more questions than they answer and whilst the decision to make her a descendant of the Emperor works better than her being the daughter of either Han or Luke it still does not make for as interesting a story than if the force can simply come to anyone.

A lot has been said about the supposedly fan service in the film, what I think people mean is a service to people who aren't fans and complained bitterly that they didn't like what had been done and surrendering an interesting narrative for the sake of a vocal minority completely leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

So what did I like about it?

That little dude who reprogram C3P0 was pretty cool, I like that C3 PO had some decent screen time this time around after he and R2 were underused in the previous two instalments, I miss the idea from the OT that they were the narrators. Bringing Lando back to just stand around seemed like a cynical attempt at pleasing the crowd, but I can't help it it was pleasing.

It didn't make the decisions that I would have, and whilst some of those detract from previous instalments overall it was a fun movie even though it didn't reach its potential and whilst it will not be my first choice to revisit I also won't be entirely striking from the record.

Re: assumptions, nope! Love TLJ (and I'm curious why you think most "film people" don't enjoy it, as most people I know who meet that description adore it).

Obviously JJ knew she was Palpatine's heir from TFA forward; Did Ryan know?

The purpose of that rhetorical is to proceed to this one: Do we still think the three sequels were bumbling along (as we the internet echo chamber did while discussing leadership & casting announcements), or was this the plot outline Kathleen Kennedy, et al, were pitched at the outset?

Put me down as of the opinion that the latter is the case. We can quibble about the execution, but the plot backbone has been there. Now I'm off to google what the "ring theory" guy has to say.

So, Anakin’s “This weapon is your life” lightsaber:
Is ignited for the first time in Padme’s bedroom in the beginning of AOTC, then falls into Obiwan’s speeder, then back with Anakin til the end of RotS when Obiwan picks it up and puts it in a trunk for 20ish years, then gives it to Luke in the beginning of ANH, who loses it with his hand in TESB. EDIT5: Briefly picked up by Han to cut open a Tauntaun. Somehow Maz gets ahold of it and has it in her basement when Rey arrives in TFA. Finn wields it briefly vs Kylo, but loses it like Luke, but it’s immediately picked back up by Rey. EDIT4:Rey takes it to Luke who tries to throw it in the ocean and misses, then Rey takes the saber with her to Snoke’s ship in her escape pod and it gets exploded in half after Snoke’s demise when she and Kylo get in a force tug of war over it.  Then, in the next scene Astrally Projecting Luke Skywalker is wielding it, whole, against Kylo Ren. And then again after they’ve escaped, Rey has the broken halves of it together with the secret Jedi texts. Then in this new movie, the saber is whole again, Rey tries to throw it in the ocean but Ghost Luke catches it and gives it back. Then it is teleported to Ben, who brings it back to Rey, who uses it to kill Palpatine EDIT2:, and then buries it in the desert.

Have I got that straight?

Also, was that door to Palpatine’s secret dark side closet there the whole time?

Also, did the ancient Sith daggersmith see a vision or use a time machine or something to make an ancient dagger that lined up with a modern ruin?

Also, why are the knights of Ren rolling coal so hard?

EDIT: Much more enjoyable the second time around when reactions weren’t getting in the way
Also: Are there different cuts floating around? Saw Real3D tonight, and IMAX last week, and this one felt different in a couple of subtle “close the blast door” kinda ways, but I’ve only seen the 2, without a pause or rewind button, so I’m not sure at all.
EDIT3: Was Ochi dead in a cave looking for a dagger that he’d just used to stab Rey’s parent’s?

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(What? Me, bitter?)

Holy crap dude, you made TROS look like a Star Wars movie. O_O

(<Still hasn't bothered actually watching the thing, but holy fuck that is some ugly af grading)

Adding xtra user karma.

RE: pleas.  LOL. Dude. Your Teenagers watch TV with you.  Who cares what you're watching, that's some rare Pokémon in any case.

I'm trying to making a supercut of the blue lightsaber but all the NT bluerays are encoded in H265 instead of H264, and Resolve doesn't speak H265.  So, I split them at the chapter marks and kept only the chunks with the lightsaber, and discovered that I'd somehow mentally reinserted a deleted scene (since I couldnt find it, I went looking for it online). But this begs the question: how did I see that scene in the first place?  I don't remember watching deleted scenes, and also, Cait remembers it too, but would never have bothered watching deleted scenes. Which leaves it being left in the IMAX cut or something? Did anyone else see the scene where - egged on by Luke, Rey fires up the saber to go stop those frog people on AcTo from doing frog on frog violence to each other only to find that they're just partying with Chewy and R2 - in a theatrical showing?

Also, whatiseven a deleted scene anymore? It has an assload of completely finished VFX.

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