Topic: Paul.

Schrodinger's movie. By commenting on it, I might ruin it for you. If you haven't seen it, watch it. It's not a spoiler thing, it's a "where did that come from" thing. Go. Spend the time.







I shouldn't tell you that The Emperor's New Groove is the funniest, freshest Disney movie ever, and I shouldn't tell you that Paul goes on my shelf next to Galaxy Quest. You'd go in expecting "New Groove" to be hysterical, and you'd, frankly, go into "Paul" expecting it to be Galaxy Quest. Neither is fair to the movie in question, and neither represents that state of mind I had going in.

But until we do a DIF, or someone here tells me a reason not to put it there... Paul is right there next to Galaxy Quest. It's not a satire of Star Trek...it's somehow, pre-emptively, a satire of the choice JJ Abrams made in doing Super 8. JJ: "I wish to capture the emotions of those kids like me had watching old-school 80's 'children discover aliens' movies!" ... uh huh. Pegg and Frost: "It's a satire of the people who want to see Super 8." Gotcha.

Decided to watch this movie on an absolute, advertising-free whim with Cloe tonight. I was delighted. Paul himself is fine, and Rogen does a fine job, but generally speaking...this is just the epic conclusion to the Pegg/Frost trilogy. "What happens when two guys who love zombie movies encounter zombies?" "What happens when Michael Bay tells a story about renegade cops in Britain?"

"What happens when two guys fresh out of Comic-Con meet E.T., and E.T. is on their level?"

Sigh. Anyone else see it? Thoughts? Am I alone?

Teague Chrystie

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I wasn't as enamored. It seemed a little more paint by numbers and less authentic than something like Shaun of the Dead. A little more corporate, if I'm being cynical. I felt like they were getting a lot of mileage out of Pegg and Frost that wasn't necessarily in the material. None of which you should take to mean that I thought it was an abomination of a film. I laughed out loud a few times and overall thought it was pretty good. But I wouldn't put it on the awesome shelf next to Galaxy Quest.

But I could be being too harsh on it. I've only seen it the once and a preview screening at that. A DIF revisit would be interesting.

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Written by Pegg and Frost. Didn't find out until the end, and wish I had known during the advertising period not that it was "directed by the director of Superbad," but "written by the writers of Shaun of the Dead."

Then again, a good deal of my appreciation might have been the whim viewing, with no pre-conceived notions.

Teague Chrystie

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Ah, I didn't know it was written by them. Makes me feel like perhaps I did judge it a little too harshly.

It really does all come down to what your expectations are calibrated to before you even sit down. I think I definitely did have a certain amount of "Pegg and Frost in a non-Edgar Wright film. Okkaaaaay, let's see what you've got..." Crossed arms and a harumph.

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There's an excellent The Q&A with Nick & Simon here where they discuss the screenwriting process for the film, and the gestation of the idea.

And you're right Teague; it really was a bit special.

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It's been a while since I watched the film, but from memory: while being a huge fan of Shaun of the Dead, and Hot Fuzz, I found Paul just not funny. Can't point to specifics (not helpful I know  mad ) but "too much Nick Frost " springs to mind. As a supporting actor, yes, but as a co-lead (more screen time thus they needed to flesh out his character, adding depth, adding range), no.
As for it completing the Pegg/Frost trilogy, hmmmm, I think I'll wait for the next Pegg/EdgarWright film for that trilogy to be completed.

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Teague wrote:

Written by Pegg and Frost. Didn't find out until the end, and wish I had known during the advertising period not that it was "directed by the director of Superbad," but "written by the writers of Shaun of the Dead."


Well, one of the writers. Comparing Paul to Shaun and Hot Fuzz, it's sort of clear that Wright is more than a talented director, he seems to be the better writer too. I love Simon Pegg (bit of a man crush) but if you look at this and remember the rumours that Jessica Stevenson was supposed to be the better writer on Spaced......

I saw Paul back in February and I've watched it twice since buying the Blu Ray a couple of months ago. The joys of living in the UK. I'm buying Attack The Block on blu ray next Monday too and that's just been released in the US.  smile

Interesting note on just how long they took to make Paul, on the dvd commentary for Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs, Bill Hader talks about filming Paul while he recorded the voice for Cloudy! And in Simon Pegg's autobiogrophy (released here last year) there are set photos and talk of making Paul. I'm rambling now. First time I've been online for days (well, 3) so I'm just typing shite now, woohoo!

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After watching Paul, I'm sort of realising that I don't really like Nick Frost that much - or at least, I'm growing tired of the obnoxious semi-unlikeable characters he plays.

I love the 'friends going to ComicCon and living the dream' part of the story, but I found the problem with Paul is that it's so predictable at times whereas the Wright stuff was always able to surprise.

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I've been a massive fan of these guys since I caught the first episode of Spaced by chance in 1999 and was lucky enough to actually meet them and claw at a window for them for Shaun of the Dead.

But I do kind of find each project a little less successful from the last for the most part, the exception being Hot Fuzz which actually going back a few years later knowing its style I liked much more. (see earlier in the thread about ones expectations going in)

Paul was in no way a bad film but didn't really manage to hit greatness either, I think a lot of what made their other films work was the idea of taking these genres and put them in suburban or rural England to give them a different spin.

This was an Alien encounters movie set in the usual places with some tourist jokes thrown in and to be fair, Unless they met the alien in John O'Groats and he had to get to Land's End to avoid capture your not really going to have a British road movie, seeing as it would only take about 15 hours.

The podcast FixedR posted is well worth a listen. They talk about how they intentionally wrote a more commercial movie to justify the budget whilst aiming for Indie sensibilities, aiming for something akin to "little miss sunshine - with Gollum"

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PAUL, um, I actually loved it very much. I think Pegg and Frost plays their roles well and humor is well placed and pointed. Paul as character was many way excellent. To me the story was flowing nicely and the humor was nice. I fear what the movie would have been like if it was made by an American writer. Comedy probably would have gotten a very different perspective. Being a Finnish and living outside US or UK makes me see those things much more clearly. Even though the movie was quite straight forward the humor was much more intelligent than in American movies. SORRY smile

It is true that Hot Fuzz is definitely better movie but I still consider PAUL almost equal. Hot Fuzz is excellent parody of Hollywood police movies and nails all the marks it was trying to. Not even mentioning the SUPERB cast.

You must remember the fact that the seat of the director wasn't easy to fill. Pegg and Frost has done fine movies and comedy together and most of the people see this as a third installment on Pegg & Wright movies, which it is not. It is hard for me to say why it is a good movie because it just feels like one.

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I've loved Uma Thurman since she showed me her boobies in Dangerous Liaisons.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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I have to say, I went in to Paul a few weeks ago with ... mixed expectations.

I had forgotten that it had come out on dvd, so was surprised to see it, and realized that I had missed it completely in the theatre. I had recalled that it had gotten mixed reactions, but ... not what they were specifically, and that I had given it a pass due to ... well being busy.

But as big Frost & Pegg fan, I felt I should give it a shot.

And I was pleasantly surprised. I can definitely see where Teague is coming from in his comparisons to Super8, and how it approached its nostalgic feelings, and have to agree that while JJ did a great job recreating those feelings, as they would have been back then, Frost & Pegg managed to drag them to a new era, showing how that sense of nostalgia was transferring onto our generations.

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Yes. Uma. Gattaca.

...

I may need to have a little lay down.

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brian









No they didn't, sit down.

Teague Chrystie

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Buh?

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We were* getting excited.

*I was.

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Paul is not part of the Blood and Ice Cream Trilogy.

I really enjoyed Paul although it's not on the same scale as Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz.

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I loved it. One of the funniest and most genuine things I've seen in some time.