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How was this a shit film again?

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Doc Sub gets a like for he speaks the truth. The film is great fun.

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So, the real problem here is not that the film has issues, but that it seems like it does. Even though the film does actually have an internal consistency, if people leave the theatre thinking that it was shoddily done, then that's a failing.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Well, I'm glad doc sub is here to tell us our opinions are wrong.

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I wasn't talking about your opinions. I was talking about the specific examples you cited of things that "didn't make sense," even though they made perfect sense. You're welcome to hate the movie if you want to, because I can't change the experience you had with it. But the reasons you gave weren't valid.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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34 (edited by bullet3 2013-05-04 00:42:29)

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Just got out of it. I find it hilarious that you guys are trying to nitpick science-level plausibility of things in this movie, given it clearly exists in a ridiculous, heightened comic-book universe, with a playful comic tone.

I'll say up-front, the first 30 minutes are a frickin mess tonally and plot-wise, and I was getting real worried, but I think everything from the helicopter attack forward feels like a kickass Shane Black movie. The movie really settles into its mystery groove, consistently pays off on numerous setups, and most importantly, delivers some outstanding action set-pieces.

I'll say it right now, this has the best action of any of the Marvel films, and trounces the Avengers in that category (which has an hour of action, of which I can remember at best maybe 3-4 moments, and the bad-guys are completely boring and throwaway). I LOVE the villains in this movie, I love that they said FUCK IT, and just went with crazy mutant super-powers. This is a great choice because it allows the bad-guy henchmen to both be credible threats, and have a personality, instead of all the boring robot villains from the last movies.
They follow that up with the auto-assembling suit, which I think is a brialliant master-stroke. It lets them have Tony constantly either out of his suit, or partially out of his suit, which immediately fixes all the issues this series has had with stakes. You never fear for Tony in these movies typically because he's wearing indestructible power armor, but this time out, not only is he vulnerable, but the bad guys chasing him are super-powered. The movie really won me over with the Mutant chick chasing him sequence, which plays like something from a Terminator movie, and then the action just gets better and better from then on out. Shane Black understands the importance of building tension and escalation within a set-piece, and how to layer on multiple levels of stakes.
I think the final 20 minute sequence is pretty goddamned amazing, and easily the best stuff from any of these movies action-wise.

So ya, not perfect, there's lots of problems early on as you're trying to get adjusted to the universe/tone of this movie, but once it gets going, it's so good that other stuff doesn't matter.

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35 (edited by TechNoir 2013-05-04 02:37:45)

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I haven't seen this movie, but this thread is proving very entertaining
*grabs the chips*

God loves you!

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39 (edited by Dave 2013-05-04 10:05:21)

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Well, to be fair, he's just invented this remote drone technology, so its not like he's a different character. And it makes total sense, if you have a robotic killing machine, why WOULDN'T you make it remote-controllable. I agree this potentially fucks them down the line in trying to justify this in future movies, but at least in this one, I don't think he's "just a manager". This movie puts him in more personal danger than any of the other ones, and as has been pointed out, the suit jumping is inherent to the character arc of the movie, the suits are just a tool, he's the hero.

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No, the finale showed us Jarvis the house was the hero, the Pepper. Tony was simply meat.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Iron Man 3 was pretty much all shite. Not as much shite as Iron Man 2 - but fairly close. Nonsensical plot, unrealistic villains.... where do I even start? The level of ridiculousness was through the roof from frame #1.

The only bits that were even remotely cool was Pepper donning the suit, and Pepper kicking ass at the end (tho I hated Guy Piercings fire deamon henchmen crap guys), plus the Mandarin fakeout (love that).

Soooo much stuff made Noooo sense. What's this stuff about Tony having Anxiety attacks... that went exactly NOWHERE!?

Holy hell.

Oblivion was the better movie BY FAR.

/Z

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True, thats why they can never turn the engine off on tanks. Without it running, you can pull the barrels off with your hands.

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46 (edited by TechNoir 2013-05-04 12:26:22)

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Can you hear yourself justifying crap? Please listen to yourself!!??

/Z

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