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The 'media is to blame' is easy and on the face of it reasonable but the solution mentioned at the beginning isn't really practical (is it really that these events shouldn't be covered or that the coverage should be censored?) and ironically, the argument isn't really anything more than correlation=causation.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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We have a strict no-gun policy. The number of gun related deaths has been on a steady decline from 111 in 2002 to 20 in 2011. That's 20 shooting victims out of 38 million people.

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The police in Norway don't even bear arms. Our crime rate is really, really low. If you con't count Anders Behring Breivik who killed 80 people last year in a massacre.

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God loves you!

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God loves you!

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They're awesome, I love their stuff, I was just making a Die Hard reference.....

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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Gordon looks like he needs to clean his facial hair real bad.

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God loves you!

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I would never lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation.

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I couldn't agree more.  People think that because I'm an editor that I want tons of coverage and 7 cameras running at once so I can pick and choose as I see fit.  That's my day to day life, yes, but I LONG for a good one'er. 

I remember once I was working on a pilot of a new reality show and we were told that we would have a lot of input in shaping the show, and how we should be free in our first cuts to just go for it.  I found that there were several directions I could take the material, and since I am a physically fast cutter, I cut together three versions of the opening scene, all with very different sensibilities.  I was 26 and hoping to impress someone, though realisitcally I was trying to impress myself.

The director came in and I showed him one cut, and he had notes.  I showed him the second pass and he stopped me 10 seconds in and said "Why did you waste your time with this?  I asked for YOUR cut.  ONE cut.  I don't want your speculation, I want your decision.  Make a choice and show it to me at the end of the day."

In the bay I see a LOT of wasted time.  The last sizzle I did I saw no less than a hundred hours of purely wasted material.  Material that didn't inform the final choice.  Material that didn't have to be made in order to arrive at the right decision.  If only Sam could be on every set going, "COVERAGE, MOTHERFUCKER!  DO YOU NEED IT!"

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It's so bizarre though, coming relatively fresh off the film school wagon, because it's so completely the opposite of what you get taught. In school it's always COVER EVERY FUCKING THING IN THAT ROOM. I actually had a teacher tell me once that "If there's a clock in the room, shoot it, cause you never fucking know."

And I actually went into shooting Lily In The Wind with a very similar mindset to what Sam is talking about, I knew the shots I wanted, I knew exactly what I wanted it to look like. But we had to shoot coverage for everything (Actually part of my grade for the shoot. What a joke), so I wound up spending 90 percent of the day doing that, instead of what I actually wanted to do, and our day was already tight enough as it was.

That's the weird thing about going through a course like that I guess, I'm still not really sure what's BS or not, and this concept in particular has always irked me. It's nice to hear some actual pro's input.

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BDA, it just boils down to practice.  SamJack's whole thing is that with experience you learn to get more of what you need and not ammunition for endless what if scenario's.

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