Topic: How "Chuck" murdered the Footprint in the Snow

Listening to Down in Front has, among other things, made me more observant of tropes and, well, "glossary items" in movies and TV shows. Don't get me wrong, I love NBC's "Chuck". Even though it has a lot of problems, it still has fun plots and good writing. However, they commit one mortal sin in each episode that rocks me to my core.

Minor spoilers for the past 2 seasons of "Chuck"

In case you didn't know, "Chuck" is about a nerd who works in an electronics store who absorbs all of the CIA's secret information into his brain. Because he is now the only remaining copy of that database (and because he can access it at random), the CIA and NSA each give him a highly-trained handler to protect him, and to use his abilities when necessary. Whenever he sees a picture, object, or map, the camera zooms into his eye, into his brain, and we see flashes of information. I was okay with the repeated use of this device, because he saw different images each time, and they occasionally had easter eggs that became important later.

At the end of the second season, he absorbs another one of these databases. This one imprints him with incredible kung-fu prowess, like in The Matrix. (It doesn't count as a second magic bean, because we already accepted that the technology works that way). Now, whenever he is in danger, he can use these skills to defend himself. This is first represented by the classic move of zooming in on his eye, into his brain, and watching drawings of kung-fu poses fly past the camera. This is a horrible, horrible thing.

After about 35 episodes of this, I have become furious. Unlike the original "flashes", which showed different pieces of information each time, these new "flashes" show the exact same fucking thing. Every. Single. Time.

They could have showed it a few times, and then have been done with it. I believe you call that a "Footprint in the Snow". We, the audience, understand what is happening now. We don't need a constant reminder of how he is able to do kung-fu. Long time viewers will know what's up, and new viewers will accept that he can fight, because they never make anything of it anymore. It's gotten to the point where the tension of a fight scene is completely shattered by a pointless effects shot.

After months of listening to Down in Front, I finally understand that there are a multitude of valid reasons to complain about something. I'd like to thank you for assisting my transformation into a more valid critic. And an enormous nerd.

But seriously, people who watch "Chuck", doesn't this piss you off as well?

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*slow clap*

Teague Chrystie

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At this point, could it just be considered a parody of anime transformation sequences, where they repeat the same animation cycle every episode to save the 5 seconds of new animation? Either that or they're setting you up for some joke at the end of the season, like in episode 20 they zoom in and suddenly the pictures are gone and replaced with how to do the Hokey Pokey.

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I really don't think that's what they'e going for. The show has never come close to doing a reference like that before. The show is all about nerdy sci-fi references (Chuck's parents are played by Scott Bakula and Linda Hamilton), so for them to parody anime, particularly on a weekly basis, is a bit of a stretch.

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Oh, like a repeated transformation sequence isn't nerdy sci fi smile Still, never having watched the show I assume you're right. Maybe they're doing for the same reason they do it in anime, to kill 5 seconds of screen time smile

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Oh, I'm sure that they are, but they don't need to. Interestingly, "Chuck" is slowly making the transition from action-comedy to action-drama (with a substantial amount of comic relief). The continued inclusion of this cheesy vignette is really holding the show back, I suppose in an effort to "stay close to its roots" or some such nonsense.

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I'm sure there's something to do with future syndication going on there, not to mention folks just tuning in for one episode here or there.  Also don't underestimate how much time / effort it would take to make a new one of those every week.  Could be they just needed to trim the budget.  But I see your point, and how that would indeed become irritating.  I wish they'd put more episodes up on Hulu or something.  Watched the first couple, but lost interest at the time.  Wish I'd stayed with it now.

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There's been like 3 or 4 different "flashes" thus far, as far as the fighting styles go, but the main one is the kung fu one. There have been dances, algorithms and musical lessons in there as well, but only now and then, and the kung fu one with the exact same 'glyphs' keep showing up. I agree with it being annoying, but hey, the show's got Adam Baldwin, Scott Bakula, Linda Hamilton, Arnold Vosloo, Chevy Chase, Steve Austin, Brandon Routh, Timothy Dalton....

...And Yvonne Strahovsky.

Yum.

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I gotta say, after meeting the three guys who do the visual effects for the show, and yes I do mean that there are only three guys doing pretty much all the effects, I am willing to cut them a bit of slack for some things.

Granted this is not as much a VFX issue as a storytelling issue, but even still for what they have been able to do with an economy of visuals has been quite impressive.

Not arguing the point, but they did get themselves into a pattern of showing the flashes, so they got to a point and likely looked at each other and said ... well we have this trope all set, we can adapt it for the new things we keep adding in, or we can try and get the audience to accept a whole new visual flair, or we can just pretend that he is doing it and not have to show it.
I think they settled for any number of reasons, on sticking what had been established, it was likely thought of as their signature "thing" both in visual and audio recognition.

Sorry some late night rambling before I turn in.

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Re: How "Chuck" murdered the Footprint in the Snow

Isn't Chuck a Zoic show? Is Johnny Banta one of the guys you met? Dacklin somethin'?

Teague Chrystie

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Nope, not to my knowledge.

http://www.gnomonschool.com/?p=1368

I went to this event, where they were presenting, got to say hi to Dan Curry.

Was a nice presentation for both crews, actually got name checked by the Lost guys, so that was appreciated.

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Weird, I'm almost positive Johnny was working on Chuck at some point. It's possible he wasn't, he might have been working on on every other show on television.

An aside: Johnny is a weird king of After Effects. There's Andrew Kramer, then there's a level, then there's Ryan Wieber, and then there's Johnny Banta, who is like a sultan.

That might seem heavy handed. Allow me to clarify. We here at Down in Front do not quite understand the mythical nature of Trey Stokes, but I for one believe that if he and Johnny Banta ever fought, clouds would literally swirl above the fight. It'd be a giant cloud tank thing. And whoever won, we'd lose.

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