Topic: G.I. Joe
I am so ashamed. We have international listeners. *face in hands*
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I am so ashamed. We have international listeners. *face in hands*
I havent even watched the commentary,but I can already hear everyone moan at the mysterious 'sinking ice'.
Should I even bother cooking up a PAL version? I think I'll abstain out of shame.
Should I even bother cooking up a PAL version? I think I'll abstain out of shame.
if it's not too hard then this English viewer would appreciate one
[edit] eeek, am I at risk of being banned for saying I liked the movie ??
[edit] scratch that, don't need the PAL version, the NTSC sysning perfectly. Turns out that after listening to most of your PALs and having to pause them every 10mins or so to resync to the movie, well I've just found out that my dvd player is playing things NTSC speed.
Last edited by Fido (2011-07-25 12:18:52)
I appreciate the PAL version, I stole the dvd off my sister to synch the comm up with. I like doing that sometimes. The synching of comms, not the stealing of dvds.....
I fell asleep halfway through the live show of this one.
Last edited by Jimmy B (2011-07-25 13:44:20)
It's been so long since this was recorded, I think I'll have to listen to it again. I can't remember anything that was said other than JGL seemed to be enjoying himself.
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But I...
You...
How?
...* decides to lay down for a bit.
I'm deeply sorry to admit that sometimes I just want to see things explode, sword fights and two leather clad ladies (one preferably a redhead) having a punch up, cohesive(?) storyline be damned !! ..... I feel so darn ashamed.
Thank you for releasing this! Really looking forward to the listen.
This must have been recorded during my period of hibernation, so I missed the live show.
This is available on netflix right over here.
You know they're making a sequel to this, right? It's being directed by Jon Chu, who has directed exclusively music and dance films and TV shows. I hope this means the sequel will break into musical dance routines at random moments. That would absolutely get my ass in a theater on opening day.
GI Joe by the numbers: http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2009/GIJOE.php
The most fucked up part about the numbers page for this movie is the fact that it's got about a 7.5/10 rating according to it's users, with the majority of the votes being 10/10. This tells me that, for some reason, the sort of people who love movies like G.I. Joe are really interested in film production costs and DVD sales statistics.
Last edited by Squiggly_P (2011-07-25 21:14:51)
I remain a firm defender of this movie.
Yes, its stupid and completely unnecessary and solely made to sell toys/make money.
However, it embraces its stupidity and unabashadly goes for the gold medal, with tons of crazy gadgets, thousands of civilians casually murdered by the heroes, and lots of pretty damn entertaining action set-pieces.
This is especially confirmed for me having seen the utterly mediocre and boring Captain America movie, which is somewhat similar to Gi-Joe (Hydra is a lot like Cobra, energy weapons and gadgets) except it takes itself too seriously and isn't nearly as crazy/fun in the action department, playing it much more safe.
I say, if the premise is ridiculous, embrace it and give me a fun over-the-top movie, which I think this delivers (I will admit the flashbacks still suck though)
Haven't seen the movie, but I love it simply because the trailer synced up perfectly for the trailer for Team America. They knew exactly what film they were making
I'd rather watch this than any of the Transformers movies that's for sure. They're actually bad movies, this is just big, dumb and stupid. Flawed because of the acting and story turns, but fun.
The irony to these toy movies is that they seem needlessly convoluted. In an attempt to avoid being seen as 'simple', they resort to all this plot which makes the film inevitably trip over itself.
I'm listening now, I'm actually synced to the movie which I don't usually do. First time I'm seeing this movie and the best part was the fact that you guys just said my last name about 20 times while making fun of Channing Tatum.
Finished listening to this. I completely and utterly disagree with you guys that this is anything remotely similar to an Asylum movie. It may be so that this film happened to share that same improvisational streak that Asylum films have (but what film doesn't have a scene constructed on set?) but that's as far as it goes because GI Joe is at least watchable. It might be convoluted as hell and some things may not make sense, but to compare it to the utter drivel that comes out of Asylum? Films that are with little to no quality in any aspect (acting, directing, lighting, framing, editing, visual effects, story etc.)?
You can buy technical quality, true, skilled people and slick equipment, but that's not going to make Aslyum's films any better. It won't produce an entertaining action romp like GI Joe or any other typical summer blockbuster. Give them $100 million and they'll just make 1000 rubbish films and pocket the rest. Because that's their approach to film-making, produce a semblance of a movie and make a quick buck from people too stupid to realise they've bought the wrong DVD. Hell, even the porn industry make better films...
Say what you want about GI Joe's story flaws, but you cannot say they didn't try to produce a quality product. It looks great and sounds great because somebody cared enough to make it that way. It has some coherence despite the writers' strike because people cared enough. That's a far cry from Asylum, and that's why the comparison is so wildly inappropriate.
I also disagree with the argument that this nothing more than a toy commercial, no, it's a just commercial movie like any other.
Side fun fact, GI Joe has the same cinematographer as Wanted (and Transformers too).
I know you may want to raise an eyebrow about Dennis Quaid doing this movie because his kids wanted him to do it, however, that same thing happened for Viggo Mortensen in that movie about rings. And I think that worked out pretty good.
And Raul Julia and that video-game movie he did.
And then he died.
What I think we can conclude from this is that doing a movie for your kids will kill you.
^^^
Oh my god, you guys have to do Street Fighter at some point, it is hilariously terrible, in a very entertaining way. I have to admit to having a guilty pleasure soft spot for it having seen it a lot as a kid, though it is pretty bad. Would make for a hilarious commentary I have a feeling
If they are going to do Street Fighter, they might as well do Mortal Combat as well. I mean, might as well have some video game inspired movie fun
As to the commentary, I am still working through it, but Trey's rant made me realize that the man needs his own show just ranting on different things, like TOS Star Trek vs. Next Generation Trek. That is a conversation I would love to hear.
And, Trey is right-G.I. Joe is 12 inches tall and was around long before the smaller incarnations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe
My dad still has some of his original figures. He had the jeep (sorry Trey) but that did not survive.
They re-introduced the 12 inch Joe's in the 90's, and when my parents died I consoled myself a bit by buying up a bunch. The Patton and General Bradley are great, and it was interesting to watch The Pacific with the GI Joe of one of the characters. They stopped production again a few years ago for the same reason they did the first time- they were just too expensive for a kids toy. I think they re-introduced the 3 inch version about that time.
There was a great Eddie Murphy bit on his return to SNL as a guest where he talked about the new smaller GI Joes, and Barbies preferred the real ones.
You can buy technical quality, true, skilled people and slick equipment, but that's not going to make Aslyum's films any better. It won't produce an entertaining action romp like GI Joe or any other typical summer blockbuster. Give them $100 million and they'll just make 1000 rubbish films and pocket the rest. Because that's their approach to film-making, produce a semblance of a movie and make a quick buck from people too stupid to realise they've bought the wrong DVD. Hell, even the porn industry make better films...
I bet you heckle the Special Olympics.
/there is no smilie that depicts my bitterness
I'm a huge Asylum fan and I find many of their films to be highly watchable and entertaining. The Asylum's flicks can't hide their cheap badness behind a layer of slick editing, elaborate camera moves and special effects. Movies like GI Joe can and do. They have the same sort of cheesy-stupid dialogue, the same sort of padding, the same sort of plot issues. The big budget flicks can razzle-dazzle their way out of it by throwing a series of action sequences on screen and adding a bunch of pointless 3D holographic projected images into the cliche padding scenes, but because the Asylum can't do that, you end up noticing how stupid the plot is.
I kinda felt like I was watching an Asylum movie earlier today when I want to see Captain America. The movie overall is pretty good and fun, but there's one scene where [SPOILER] they're storming Red Skull's base and the romantic interest and Tommy Lee Jones' character show up out of nowhere to kick some ass. Then the Captain goes into the hangar just in time to see Skull's plane start taking off. Those two show up out of nowhere in this tank-car and help the Cap chase the plane down, getting him onto the plane just before their car was to fly off a cliff. Add to that the couple of montages of CA doing hero poses while shit explodes behind him... It's fun but it was really fake and over-the-top in a way that clashed with the previous hour or so of the movie. The plane scene SCREAMED Asylum to me, the way it was written. These characters come out of nowhere twice to save his ass, and bad guys will come out of nowhere to attack him because some guy on the script team thought it was be awesome or something.[/spoiler]
My litmus test for any action movie is that if you could replace the action sequences with a simple sentence, then your action scene fails. If you tried that with GI Joe, you could cut the movie down to about 15 minutes. "The Joes chase the bad guys through Paris, but the bad guys get away." I just cut about 20 minutes or so out of the movie and you didn't lose a single bit of character development or plot. You don't even need to be informed about the Eiffel Tower collapsing because it has no further bearing on the story.
You could look at the Asylums films as a perfect argument for how bad big-budget movies have gotten. They are like a mirror that removes the budget so you can see what they look like deep down inside.
Last edited by Squiggly_P (2011-07-27 03:12:49)
My litmus test for any action movie is that if you could replace the action sequences with a simple sentence, then your action scene fails.
I can think of very few action movies that would pass this test, to be honest. You could boil just about any action scene in any movie down to a sentence.
See: "Ryan and Mike fight with the glowing sticks."
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