Topic: Birdemic

Let's talk about this.

This movie absolutely blew my mind. I've never seen a movie that literally does everything wrong. There is nothing right about this movie.

Now, normally, when a film this bad comes along, there's one thing that I can say about it. Recently, I said it about The Last Airbender. When I stumble out of the theater, I turn to the person nearest me and say, "Hey, at least the effects were okay."

As anyone who knows anything about this movie knows, they weren't.

I know Eddie recently did a very funny live-tweeting of his first reactions to the film, so what does everyone else think about it? (It's streaming on Netflix)

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I'll have to try again.
I haven't been able to make it past the first bit of the movie, and that was even with the Rifftrax audio overlayed.
When even that isn't enough to make it bearable then it really doesn't speak well of the material.

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I'm an oddball, I guess, but I've never enjoyed bad-bad movies. Like, as something to get a kick out of. I saw Birdemic, or rather thirty minutes of it, and gave up on it.

I can tell you, based on having friends around me who enjoy watching bad movies, that they got more inexplicable glee out of "Thankskilling" than they did "Birdemic," and that's also on Netflix Instant.

Teague Chrystie

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Birdemic gets significantly more entertaining once the titular event starts at about 45 minutes in.

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I survived my live tweet of it (twitter.com/luckybestwash) and man, it was certainly a thing that happened at my face. 

I enjoy bad movies because even making a bad movie requires a ton of fucking work.  Exhausting work, at times.  SO anytime somebody makes something that is undisputedly bad, not just a matter of taste or opinion, but just poor choices at every step, I find it rather endearing.  Because to work so so hard at making something that clearly bad, it requires a level of self delusion that I find fascinating.  I enjoy it because I see a bad movie as a guided tour of the makers psyche.  And when you're as crazy as James Nguyen, it's an even better ride than anything at Six Flags.

Eddie Doty

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Teague wrote:

I'm an oddball, I guess, but I've never enjoyed bad-bad movies. Like, as something to get a kick out of.

You're not alone there.   For example, I have only watched one Asylum movie in its entirety, ever.   And that was just once, when we DIF'd it.

/yes, it was the one I directed
/not kidding

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Hang on. Let's revisit that for a second. Cause I want some clarification here.

Are you saying that you only watched the movie you yourself directed all the way through, start to finish, once … and only after it was already in release?

Cause if so — that is, if I understood you correctly — that's a hell of an accomplishment. I don't even know how you'd pull that off if you wanted to.

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Give a listen to our 2010: MOBY DICK commentary and it might make more sense. Trey teaches us how the Asylum makes their sausage.

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To clarify, I do not seek out bad movies, nor are all awful movies made the same.  I do think that certainfilms have a charm to them that's blended in with their incompetence that can be riveting to watch at times.

Eddie Doty

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some time back, the director of Birdemic was on Adam Carolla's podcast and it was sort of amazing how serious he took it.  he in no way saw it as a tongue and cheek sort of movie.  He spoken in fairly broken english, so it's possible that he didn't get the humor/sensibilities of a traditional american* audience, but man...from the clips i've seen alone, i don't know where you get blinders that big.




*i mean american in the generic, hollywood sense of the word

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I listened to part of his DVD commentary, and he did seem to think he was making a good, important movie.

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My roommate auditioned for BIRDEMIC 2: THE BIRDEMICENING -- because, come on, he had to -- and he said that the director was a complete jerk who thinks he's the new Hitchcock. Especially the "actors are cattle" part. He's not being funny. He believes wholeheartedly in his own genius.

Check out his appearance on "This Week In Horror," where the lead actor corroborates this while Nguyen is sitting three feet away. I haven't even watched it all the way through yet, but in the first ten minutes, take a drink every time Nguyen says Hitchcock.*

*Just kidding, don't; you'll die.

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I'd like to see Birdemic 2: The Birapture. Or maybe Bird2mic.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Electric Birdaloo.

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Dorkman wrote:

Check out his appearance on "This Week In Horror," where the lead actor corroborates this while Nguyen is sitting three feet away. I haven't even watched it all the way through yet, but in the first ten minutes, take a drink every time Nguyen says Hitchcock.*

*Just kidding, don't; you'll die.

Oh, oh gods.

Unrelated Teague-interesting factoid:
These DVDs are quite popular in Viet ex-pat families, and screamingly camp (despite being fabulous in Vietnam being quite taboo).
http://thuyngashop.com/dvd/paris-by-night-dvd/

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FixedR6 wrote:

Electric Birdaloo.

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FixedR6 wrote:

Electric Birdaloo.


i'm sure there was a dif agreed moratorium on boogaloo esq puns...

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...the moratoriumalooening?

Hmmm.....?  big_smile  cool

I couldn't help myself.

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Maggot1300 wrote:

i'm sure there was a dif agreed moratorium on boogaloo esq puns...

                    FIXED (V.O.)

Those damn liberals and their moratoriums.

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The liberals in Congress hate freedom! I'm sorry that Electric Boogaloo isn't "PC", but I have the Constitutional right to say it!

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Yeah, that was really just Teague's personal edict, but he's free to enforce it with whatever petty tyranny he can wield. I say Electric Boogaloo jokes are still funny—and WAAAY more welcome than "Who ya gonna call?" jokes.

Birdemic looks incompetent on every level. That's not fun to me. I like movies that know they're ridiculous and are just turning the knobs up to 11* in an attempt to make up for the small budget.

* Also a saying that has worn out it's welcome

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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I've not seen birdemic, but I've seen some 'reviews' of it, and yeah...  it looks like it would be torture. I do seek out and watch bad movies, or at least low budget movies that I've never heard of that randomly pop up in the budget bin. I used to buy them all used at the video rental places until they all up and went broke. Got about a hundred or so on DVD. I dunno why. After I saw "Invasion" one night while I was drunk, I decided to start collecting them. Invasion was terrible on a level that is hard to comprehend. You think Birdemic is bad, imagine if it was shot entirely through the dash-cam of a cop car and 50% of the movie was nothing but empty dirt road at night with some teenage girl screaming and crying. It's amazing.

Seriously watch this movie. It's on netflix instant.
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Invasion/70082191

Birdemic looks like it would have made for a hilariously bad ten minute short or something, but feature length? No. That said, I've sat through some painfully bad movies. You wanna see a bad movie? Check out "All Hell Broke Loose" or "Bounty". I don't think I've ever seen a good indie / low budget modern western. The closest I can think of is "Shoot First And Pray You Live" which isn't terrible, but is obviously just some dude trying to make a Quentin Tarantino western and trying too hard.

Anyway, if you wanna see some bad movies, check out Barnholtz Entertainment's stock of B-movie westerns. They make the Asylum's flicks look like huge-budget Micheal Bay movies.

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The key to a "good" bad movie is the creator has to think they're producing art. They are reaching so far beyond their abilities that what comes out is unique. I think Birdemic reaches that.

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I just watched it. Amazing. I think people have really underestimated this film. It's a brilliant prosecution of the modern psyche. People are too self involved. We don't understand nature at all. The cardboard cutout CGI birds are a representation of man's ignorance of nature. The hippie Global Warming message-thumpers represent the way the average person looks at any sort of environmentalist.

Face it, as soon as anyone hears the words "Global Warming" they groan and roll their eyes as though it's gone out of fashion or something. Climate change was so 2003.

So you've got these shallow, mindless drones going about their daily grind, never really thinking too much about their environment or the planet. The 'protagonist' guy watches as the news talks about the death of polar bears, wildfires, mass bird deaths, etc and he's just sitting there eating a donut like it's no big deal. He may drive a hybrid, and he may buy some solar panels, but is he doing that because he gives a shit about the environment or because he's an upper middle-class douchebag following a trend? His lack of interest in anything outside his job and supermodel girlfriend tells me he's just following the herd.

They spend the first half of the movie just existing. We endure the monotony with them. Driving to work. Driving home. Walking to the car. Sitting in a meeting. Sitting at a cubicle. Having boring, shallow conversations. We even hear the same short musical cues over and over. Repetition and boredom. They see some dead birds on the beach and have no idea what to do. The birds look fake to us, but they may as well be aliens to them. They react as though the birds could explode at any second. Later they see some birds hovering on a tree. They again have an alien look to them, as though the characters have no clue as to what they're looking at. They have no appreciation for nature, and give these birds very puzzled looks.

When the birds finally do attack, they're destroying towns and gas stations. They're exploding and dive-bombing buildings. If you take this footage as being as exaggerated as the banality of the first half of the film, and as exaggerated as the way they view the message-thumping environmentalist characters, the scenes with the birds could very well just be their interpretation of some much simpler events, including perhaps some fantasies about how they're reacting to these events. Gunning down birds with an AK47? Seems like more of an overly-heroic fantasy formed in the mind of a guy who watches too much TV and movies. Perhaps there are some birds with some sort of disease, as the environmentalist is saying, and that these birds are indeed attacking people, but surely the explosions are things that they are fantasizing.

For example, the birds are exploding in the first shots, but then fail to do so again throughout the rest of the film. The characters don't see these events, so perhaps we are to interpret this as how the mass media might cover these events? Also, at a gas station scene, the pump only catches fire after they leave, meaning that the characters themselves could very well have been fantasizing that. I think this film may be a representation of the sort of mass hysteria the media can cause with their 'gotcha' style of reporting - their exaggerations and lies to make any mundane story seem like it could be the end of the world.

I give it 3/4 stars. I believe Armond White would agree.

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hmm

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