Topic: Primer

I apologize if there's already a live "Primer" thread here, but I'm too lazy to go looking for one.

Teague and I got to talking about the movie last night — it started with me saying "Primer. Make it happen. Seriously." and went on from there. I tossed together a little diagram of the characters' paths through the events in the story, and he seemed to think it was pretty okay, so I'm making with the sharing.

Clicky clicky for the PDF.

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Jeffery is really into Primer.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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We all have our little enthusiasms. Don't hate.

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You don't have it quite right. THIS is the Primer character paths:
http://xkcd.com/657/

(Primer is on the bottom right. Click the image for the large version)

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I'm still not sure I like PRIMER. I thought I did but now I think I don't. I need to see it again to decide but I'm kind of not interested which to an extent seems to indicate a decision.

Meh.

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The movie is basically made to figure out. Insofar as that, I don't like it, for the same reason I don't like Mulholland Drive.

On the other hand, Carruth isn't David Lynch. Which is about the highest compliment that can be given.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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Primer is THE mind-fucker. I hate/love it.

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It probably has the record for most people confused per $ spent. The budget was, what, $7,000?

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I haven't seen it in a while, but i remember finding the party scene confusing/boring. However you feel about the story you have to admire the guy for making such an original movie on such a teeny-tiny budget. On actual film no less. Nice end credits too, black on a grey BG if i remember right. Why can't other filmmakers think outside the box like that.

I can't wait for the first theatrical-release movie to come out filmed entirely on a cell phone.

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If I recall correctly, they were thinking pretty much inside the box.

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Here's my thing with "Primer." I kind of have a hardon for it on several levels.

First, the first time I saw it, I was entertained as hell. I didn't follow it, but I enjoyed every minute of it. That counts for a lot with me.

Second, Teague's right that there's a puzzle aspect to it. I don't agree that the movie exists to be figured out; I think it exists to entertain people, though obviously the only person who really knows the answer to that question is the guy what made it. But the story is complicated, and that amuses me, 'cause I'm a nerd and I enjoy brain-teasers and logic puzzles.

Third-and-finally, every time I watch it I'm just blown away by what an accomplishment it was. Total auteur piece, shot on 16 with a rented camera and edited and finished on a home computer. If you listen to the commentary, Carruth talks about how he struggled with editing some sequences because he rushed shooting in order not to have to pay for camera rental for another week, and he had to loop a lot of the dialogue because he didn't know how to record location sound yet when he shot those early scenes. I mean … holy crap.

So yeah. I don't think I can say that "Primer" is one of the best movies ever or anything like that. But I can definitely say it's one of my favorites.

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Watched this for the first time last night. Now furiously reading the Internet in an attempt to understand.

Jeffrey, can you make your character path diagram available again?

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Why yes. Yes, I can.

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It's been up at www.downinfront.net/primer this whole time, I think.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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I've had the DVD from Netflix literally since February, and there hasn't been a single moment where I've been in the mood to watch it. Now, I actually might.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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@Jeff: Well fuck'n hell dude, I think I actually get it.

EWDIT: Yeah, I did actually read the whole gods damned thing.

Last edited by BigDamnArtist (2011-08-27 07:34:23)

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For me it was let down by the fact it was utterly boring.

DowninFront it and I might give it another go to see what you all get out of it.

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"Boring?" Are we talking about the same movie?

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I re-read just the primer on Primer last night for fun.

I think I am boring.

Also, Jeff: Primmer or Prymer? I've been saying Primmer.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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Shane Carruth pronounces it with the long I sound.

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I'm not even English, and I've always pronounced it as Prymer.

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Yeah, I have no idea how anyone would get primmer out of Primer. If it was Primmer, then it would be spelt, Primmer. But it's not, it's Primer.

English, use it bitches.





EDIT: Why does your auto-correct not recognize spelt?

Last edited by BigDamnArtist (2011-08-28 14:10:32)

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I assume it's your auto correct, as mine recognizes spelt while typing this message (unless the Apple spellcheck is overriding some site specific dictionary)

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spelt |spelt|

noun

an old kind of wheat with bearded ears and spikelets that each contain two narrow grains, not widely grown but favored as a health food. Compare with einkorn, emmer.

[Triticum spelta, family Gramineae.]

ORIGIN late Old English, from Old Saxon spelta. The word was rare until the 16th cent., when it was readopted from Middle Dutch.

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Um...thanks Jeff...?

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