Topic: NOOOOOOOO!!! Indeed.

It's not even funny anymore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27RVJJfny4I

Is this George just fucking with people?  Because i remember Dorkman saying he likes to do so on one of the SW commentarys.

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dudewheresmyrubber wrote:

Is this George just fucking with people?

NOOOOOOOO!!!

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This is idiotic, but who is floating these little scene videos? It makes me wonder if Lucas is leaking these himself to gauge fan reaction to the changes, and maybe he'll pull back on this particularly egregious one.

After all, the new Han and Greedo scene has them firing at the same time, so George DOES know how much fans hated the SE version.

HOWEVER, can you imagine the recording session that must have preceded this?

G: Thanks for coming in and doing this, James Earl Jones.
J: Do you have the check, George? You better have my money. I don't do ruin classic movies for free.
G: Well, I don't have it ON me. We'll send—
J: That shit better be in the mail, cracker. Now what do you want done?
G: Uh, well, we're looking for you to dub a nice couple of "NOs" over that scene in Jedi where the Emperor is zapping Luke and Vader decides to dump him into the reactor shaft.
J: "Reactor shaft"? Is that what that was supposed to be? The emperor of the galaxy has a fucking open pit to the power reactor in his throne room?
G: Uhhh. You see, it's like how we ended Revenge of the Sith... with Vader shouting NO. It's like poetry. It rhymes.
J: Poetry hasn't rhymed since 1860, George. Hell, country music doesn't even rhyme anymore. Get out of the fucking booth and let me do this.
E: Vader vocalizes his dismay: take one.
J: No. NOOO!
G: That's great. Can... can you do faster and more intense?

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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I swear Lucas is doing this deliberately to annoy people. Out of all the things you can change and arguably 'fix' in these movies, he completely ignores them in favour of making completely arbitary and totally unnecessary changes.

So, George, how about you fix the fucking lightsabers and leave the door to Jabba's palace alone?

He can take his ever-changing 'vision' and shove it up his arse.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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Dorkman made a point on Twitter I was interested in, that George is just adding value to the eventual untouched original release on Blu-Ray every time he does something like this.

Who wouldn't shell out a hundred bucks for a bare-bones Blu Ray set of the originals, now?

Teague Chrystie

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Teague wrote:

Who wouldn't shell out a hundred bucks for a bare-bones Blu Ray set of the originals, now?

The six-year-olds he's ostensibly been making these movies for since the beginning, for one thing.

When you consider what a small percentage of Lucasfilm's profits likely comes from the "film buff" crowd that values the untouched originals in comparison to the six-year-olds who know Star Wars primarily through the Clone Wars show - for whom TPM is a movie that came out before they were even born - his actions make perfect business sense.  For that crowd IV-VI are really an afterthought. A few bad effects would be enough to turn them off to the whole OT, and the main appeal comes from how closely Lucas can now tie those into the Prequels they're familiar with. Ultimately, he'll sell more copies of the retouched versions than the originals. And he'll sell the same amount of untouched versions no matter how little effort he puts into them, since that fanbase isn't really going to change.

I'm not saying any of this is a good thing, btw. But I wouldn't think the fans who want the original untouched trilogy were going to buy the Special Editions whether Lucas made more changes or not.

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Teague wrote:

Who wouldn't shell out a hundred bucks for a bare-bones Blu Ray set of the originals, now?

Star Wars was poorly acted and scripted when it was released 34 years ago, the additions simply make it sadder.

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See, the Ewok eyes I don't mind, The weird noise that Obi-Wan makes I don't mind, even the fact that greedo shoots first I don't mind, but adding lines you don't need that weaken the climactic moment of the whole trilogy? Shoving CGI animals into the foreground and background of shots doing silly things and being distracting, ruining the composition of the shot? Adding a redundant scene of Jabba the Hut, where he just goes over the exact same dialogue line for line from the previous scene? Adding a shot of R2D2 hovering down a flight of stairs for no reason other than to just have R2D2 use the hover jets in the old movie?

I mean, it's a good thing R2 really needed to get down those stairs, right? Cause we needed to see that shot where he does that, even though chronologically that's the very last time he ever uses them. And there are some times when using them would have probably been pretty useful as well. He could have just hovered over to the shore on Degobah instead of falling into the water and being eaten, right? He could have gotten off Jabba's barge without diving dome-first into the sand, right? But no, going down the stairs is the important thing. So long as he can do that, I'm good. I'm so glad they didn't cut that pointless shot out of the movie, proper editing be damned.

And I never understood something about the Jabba scene in ANH. They have Jabba repeat the same dialogue as greedo from the previous scene, right? Except both of those characters are speaking some gibberish language that maybe a dozen people on the planet are nerdy enough to actually learn. Why didn't they just change the fucking subtitles so one of the characters was saying something different? Or, barring that, why not just change the dialogue for Jabba altogether? It's an inserted shot, right? You have some guy that does Jabba's voice, right? Make his dialogue different from the dialogue in the previous scene!

Or better yet, cut the redundant scene out of your god damn movie.

And the thing is, why the hell is he trying to 'fix' a series of films that are so popular to begin with? I mean, clean them up and make them look good, make reasonable alterations to improve or append the older effects, makeup, costumes, whatever. But to actually take scenes you cut out of the movie because they were redundant or pointless and put them back in doesn't "improve" the films. It "makes them worse".

Like I said in the other thread, Star Wars is the only reason I still have a VCR in my house.

Well, that and my old porn collection. Can you believe there are so few reliable retailers for 1960's and 70's bondage porn on DVD?

Edit, I take back the Greedo shooting first thing. That does bother me a lot.

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Squiggly_P wrote:

And the thing is, why the hell is he trying to 'fix' a series of films that are so popular to begin with?

I know. It's a cultural tragedy.

Squiggly_P wrote:

Can you believe there are so few reliable retailers for 1960's and 70's bondage porn on DVD?

I know. It's a cultural tragedy.

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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Squiggly_P wrote:

Can you believe there are so few reliable retailers for 1960's and 70's bondage porn on DVD?

I have a handlebar mustache, rope and a 16mm camera.
I'm like a civil war reenactor for vintage porn.

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George Lucas Strikes Back - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl … BMgegut3UM

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It amazes me how well I am able to look away because I am a fan.

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