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Obviously, given the recent Intermission, the Visual Effects nominations are going to be a big deal here, but that's not what jumped out to me. I'm shocked that Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close got a Best Picture nod. Didn't that get terrible reviews?
Yeah, I saw that too. I've not seen it myself, but is it one of those terrible films that people say that they like because it's 'intellectual' to do so?
So the visual effects noms are:
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2
Hugo
Real Steel
Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Very interesting, especially in light of The Potter Fuckup. No Captain America and no Ghost Protocol. Shame really as like Trey I was kinda amazed to hear that it's actually Evans in all the scenes and not just a pasted head - I wonder if the effect itself wasn't considered good enough.
Transformers with more nominations than Drive?
They never cease to amuse me.
thats .... yeah ok then.
Some days I never stop being amazed.
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2
Tim Burke, David Vickery, Greg Butler and John Richardson
(this definately I think got the "end of series" bump, and probably wasn't hurt that all the drama surrounding the bake-off brought it to the front of peoples minds more)
Hugo
Rob Legato, Joss Williams, Ben Grossman and Alex Henning
(this, along with what 10 other nom's, seems to indicate that they went with the heavy film nostalgia that the movie evoked.)
Real Steel
Erik Nash, John Rosengrant, Dan Taylor and Swen Gillberg
(Glad that this god the nod)
Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Joe Letteri, Dan Lemmon, R. Christopher White and Daniel Barrett
(Again kind of a given on this one given all the hype/controversy, and the incredible work)
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Scott Farrar, Scott Benza, Matthew Butler and John Frazier
(well 2 big robot movies, this one deserved a nod, but still ...)
Last edited by Seth_Brower (2012-01-24 17:25:53)
ooo...
So can I now say I worked on an Oscar nominated song?
Man or a Muppet got the nod for Best Original Song, with one other song, so a 50/50 chance to take it home.
Fuckers completely snub Drive but they put fucking Incredibly Loud and Close up for best picture?! It's not even fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.
Last edited by bullet3 (2012-01-24 19:01:11)
Iiiiinteresting. It's definitely harder to predict bakeoff results now that it's five FX nominees chosen from ten possibles. Picking three nominees from seven possibles was a lot easier. 
And as we learned here in the forum recently, preferential balloting (the same system the fx nominations use) yields interesting results. In our case, we had an overwhelming favorite, while other films were just a few points apart. But those few points made the difference between being in or out.
Unlike our vote, the Oscars never reveal the numbers. So maybe Hugo was a favorite, or maybe it squeaked past Captain America or Ghost Protocol by one vote. We'll never know.
Anyway, I'm glad that Real Steel made it in, that's the real surprise. And my old colleague Greg Butler is now an Oscar nominee, and that's cool too.
I'm a little angered Drive & Dragon Tattoo were snubbed for Best Picture, but not really suprised.
Loud & Close is just shameful. It's a bad movie, plain and simple. The only things driving it are star power, and playing off the 9/11 anniversary. A cheap tactic.
Oh, and I think it's universally agreed that The Artist has snagged Best Picture. Actor/Actress will be interesting though.
Reading up on the rest of the nominees, I continue to be surprised at all the love Midnight In Paris has been getting. It's a cute fun little movie (with a really lazy ending), but no more cute and fun than the movies Woody Allen has made every year for the past two decades.
But the real surprise is that the phrase "Oscar nominee Jonah Hill" now exists in our universe.
Best Animated Film is gonna be interesting (not really).
Odds that Chico & Rita will win based on merit: 2:1
Odds that Chico & Rita will win based on the number of voters who saw it: 10,000:1
I haven't seen A Cat In Paris or Puss In Boots. Is Puss In Boots any good, or is it basically Shreck without Shreck? I still think it's laughable that they bother to nominate stuff like that for best animated film. That would be like nominating Home Alone for best picture. The US industry was doing pretty good up until a few years ago. Now it's back on it's downward spiral.
I haven't seen any of the foreign films this year, which kinda bothers me on a personal level.
Reading up on the rest of the nominees, I continue to be surprised at all the love Midnight In Paris has been getting. It's a cute fun little movie (with a really lazy ending), but no more cute and fun than the movies Woody Allen has made every year for the past two decades.
But the real surprise is that the phrase "Oscar nominee Jonah Hill" now exists in our universe.
Meh. I was equally surprised by "Oscar Nominee Jesse Eisenberg" last year. And "Serious Oscar Contender Daft Punk".
How was Tintin not nominated and Puss in Boots was?
How was Tintin not nominated and Puss in Boots was?
I'm wondering the same thing. Think it wasn't included for some technicality or did it really lose out to those?
Also, was anyone else not blown away with Moneyball? I enjoyed it and can't fault it in any particular area, but it seems fairly forgettable.
Also, was anyone else not blown away with Moneyball? I enjoyed it and can't fault it in any particular area, but it seems fairly forgettable.
The ending ruined, well maybe not ruined the movie but definately left me feeling huh? -
How was Tintin not nominated and Puss in Boots was?
Filmmakers have taken to insisting that "performance capture" films, like TINTIN and everything Zemeckis has made lately -- are not the same as animated films despite everything being created digitally. So perhaps, as a result, it didn't qualify.
Anyway, I'm glad that Real Steel made it in, that's the real surprise. And my old colleague Greg Butler is now an Oscar nominee, and that's cool too.
Absolutely. I saw it the other day and the quality of the work is pretty remarkable.
so he stayed at the club and never won a thing, while 'his' system was used elsewhere and they won the chapionship. Also, how come the Jonah Hill's character wasn't offered that 'new club deal' too since he was doing all the computer stuff ?
Gregory Harbin wrote:How was Tintin not nominated and Puss in Boots was?
Filmmakers have taken to insisting that "performance capture" films, like TINTIN and everything Zemeckis has made lately -- are not the same as animated films despite everything being created digitally. So perhaps, as a result, it didn't qualify.
It makes me wonder, as we get more and more films like this that are either entirely CG or use performance capture to get a couple of CG characters into a live action movie, what the likelihood of that sort of performance getting it's own category is. And what they'd call it. "Best Digital Performance"? Also, would you nominate the actor or the animation supervisor or both or ...?
the likelihood of that sort of performance getting it's own category is. And what they'd call it. "Best Digital Performance"? Also, would you nominate the actor or the animation supervisor or both or ...?
The award already exists, it's just not an Oscar category (nor, I still believe, should it be). But the VES Society ("society" because currently fx has no guild or union) gives that award, among many other highly specialized fx categories.
It's the same as the DGA, WGA, SAG and other specific movie crafts, all of which have their own awards, all of which recognize a longer list of more specific categories than the Oscars do.
And not surprisingly, Caesar is nominated for a VES award for "animated character in a live-action feature" and will almost certainly win. It's too bad Fox decided to go with the divisive "Best Actor" Oscar campaign, because the rightful place for Caesar is in VFX, with Serkis credited as the lead animator among the rest of the team.
I remember a few years back I saw an animated film - was it The Emperor's New Groove? - that credited the artists by character. As in, there was the name of a character from the movie, then a block of credits underneath: the voice actor, the animation team, the design team etc. I thought that was a really nice way to acknowledge everyone's contribution, but I can't remember seeing it done that way anywhere else.
I remember a few years back I saw an animated film - was it The Emperor's New Groove? - that credited the artists by character. As in, there was the name of a character from the movie, then a block of credits underneath: the voice actor, the animation team, the design team etc. I thought that was a really nice way to acknowledge everyone's contribution, but I can't remember seeing it done that way anywhere else.
That's such an elegant and respectful way of crediting an animated movie. Now that you mention it, it just seems like the obvious way to do it. I'll have to see New Groove (Pocahantas killed Disney for me, so I have yet to see most of the movies they made afterwards)
But that makes complete sense, since the main characters have lead animators and a team behind them that pretty much focus on that one character for the majority of the movie. At least, in 2D movies. I'm not really sure if 3D films do that, given the inherent malleability of the performances in 3D animation and the number of animators that will work on any given scene. It would make sense, tho.
I remember a few years back I saw an animated film - was it The Emperor's New Groove? - that credited the artists by character. As in, there was the name of a character from the movie, then a block of credits underneath: the voice actor, the animation team, the design team etc. I thought that was a really nice way to acknowledge everyone's contribution, but I can't remember seeing it done that way anywhere else.
Disney often do/did that. They do it for Aladdin and Lion King as well, I've noticed. I agree, it's a great way to acknowledge everyone's hard work
Gregory Harbin wrote:How was Tintin not nominated and Puss in Boots was?
Filmmakers have taken to insisting that "performance capture" films, like TINTIN and everything Zemeckis has made lately -- are not the same as animated films despite everything being created digitally. So perhaps, as a result, it didn't qualify.
…Rango?
It's too bad Fox decided to go with the divisive "Best Actor" Oscar campaign, because the rightful place for Caesar is in VFX, with Serkis credited as the lead animator among the rest of the team.
Oh Christ. Did you see how bent out of shape the VFXers got when he just sought credit for what he actually did? If he got credit for a job he didn't do and doesnt seem to particularly understand they'd have gone completely nuclear.
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