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Ok I'm gonna go there and ask what did you think of the film?

Book readers & Non book readers.

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Oh boy.

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Didn't you like it?

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Thought it was better than the book.

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Didn't care for it at all.

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After watching Jennifer Lawrence try to act in X-Men: First Class yesterday, I decided to wait for it on video.

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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Lawrence is great in Hunger Games. She owns every single scene she's in (and that's most of the movie).

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Señor Finifter tweeted a link to a Salon article which summed up the Hunger Games book series perfectly in one sentence: The Hunger Games trilogy is a story which refers to ideas without actually being about any.

I only saw the first half of the film (technical difficulties in the theater -- I'm going to give it a complete viewing this weekend probably) but I will say it improved on the material and made it more engaging. I like the verite style too, although it could stand to use wider lenses and fewer cuts.

One thing that stood out to me: not a lot of emphasis on hunger, all things considered. My screening pooped out right in the middle of the dinner scene after the parade, and they were just sitting there at the table eating -- picking at it casually, even -- like it weren't no thang, rather than being completely overwhelmed by the abundance of food after lives of starvation.

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

Lawrence is great in Hunger Games. She owns every single scene she's in (and that's most of the movie).

I enjoyed Lawrence as well, but good or not she does not look 16 years old as portrayed in the story. She actually looks older then she is.

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Happy to see a strong female protagonist in anything popular, but didn't do anything for me beyond that.

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I had not read the books, and was with the film (for the most part) up until

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Ru's death
.  What follows after is a totally unwarranted rebellion scene (which I understand is not part of the books).  And then that tacky love story, which also comes out of nowhere (apparently it was the focus of the books). 

That, and what felt like a very rushed climax, brought it down from a 3-star to 2-star flick for me.  The Capital scenes, and some of the performances, were the highlight.  Everything else just seemed to get worse and worse as it went on...

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My mom went to see this, cause she's a huge fan of the books. Going in she thought it would be kinda bad, tho I dunno why exactly. I think the main character is a bit older than she was in the books or something? Anyway, she was more or less pleased with the flick.

I don't plan on seeing it as it doesn't look like something I'd care for. If I want to watch a bunch of kids run around a forest killing each other, I'll watch Kinji Fukasaku's modern classic Battle Royale, thank you very much. /Cinema Snob

BTW: Battle Royale just got a bluray release in the US recently.

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I really don't get these "Young-Adult" phenomenon's. I guess it's better then Twilight, so hooray, but I really kind of despise this whole "genre". As a teenager, I didn't need a fucking classification of books that were targeted at my age range, I'd just read, you know, books. Don't tell me a 12 year old can't read Asimov, or Heinlein, or Clarke, or any other real sci-fi author out there. Everything about this series looks so "sci-fi lite" to me, and as Dorkman pointed out, mentions ideas instead of exploring them.

Just from the trailer, it's already apparent that the entire premise is a cop-out from the get-go. The whole thing that makes these reality-tv, people fighting to the death movies interesting, is that we can imagine them as an extension of our existing culture, which forces us to examine where we are as a society. So what do they do? Instead of making it a relate-able world, it's set in this really abstract, fantasy-type world, with crazy costumes, and that has no bearing on the real-world. (compare this to The Running Man, which has a disturbingly accurate portrayal of American game-shows)

How much more interesting would it have been to see modern-day kids in a world we can recognize, having to kill each-other (Yes, this is basically Battle Royale at that point, but I think it would be interesting to see it done with the culture of modern-day American teens)?

Sigh.....at least we're improving from Twilight. Maybe after another 3 more of these stupid teen phenomenons, there'll finally be one that results in a good movie.

P.S. Jennifer Lawrence basically ruined X-Men: First Class, so I kind of really wish she would just go away.

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I really don't get these "Young-Adult" phenomenon's. I guess it's better then Twilight, so hooray, but I really kind of despise this whole "genre". As a teenager, I didn't need a fucking classification of books that were targeted at my age range, I'd just read, you know, books. Don't tell me a 12 year old can't read Asimov, or Heinlein, or Clarke, or any other real sci-fi author out there. Everything about this series looks so "sci-fi lite" to me, and as Dorkman pointed out, mentions ideas instead of exploring them.

Heinlein wrote "young adult" books (Have Spacesuit, Will Travel). Andre Norton wrote them as well (Fur Magic, Star Ka'at), John Christopher's Tripod books are "young adult". The difference now is there is a large, male AND female, market actually buying them. Teens and preteens are buying books, teens that in my day probably didn't. Isn't this a GOOD thing?

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Owen wins this thread.

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I agree Bullet3, the younger generation is almost told what to enjoy; this kind of film and this kind of book. I can speak from experience that it is considered odd when we broaden our minds beyond what is considered the norm for our age group.  I also agree with Invid, that it is positive that there is a wider young audience reading, but the problem is that most of them will never expand beyond this kind of book.  Things like "The Catcher in the Rye" and "Ender's Game" could be considered young adult but also masterpieces; surely they are much more enlightening and entertaining reads then supernatural soap operas?

Nevertheless I caved in and read the book which I found lightly entertaining, but with a lot of deus ex machina and sloppy writing, before I went to see the film with some friends.  It was ok, but I believe that in order to maintain a rating that would let its primary audience see it the film had to use a lot of shaky-cam and quick cuts, which started to get annoying quickly.  I thought the story was fine, if lacking slightly in originality and suffering from the same kind of problems as the book, whilst the film was well paced and the acting better then is the norm for tween market films.  In fact, my favourite part of the film was Isabelle Fuhrman, who, despite a small part in this particular movie, is quickly becoming one of my favourite young actors.

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ShadowDuelist wrote:

Owen wins this thread.

Yeah, I posted that in another thread as there wasn't a Hunger Games thread at the time. I haven't seen the film, just thought the pic was funny big_smile

EDIT: I'm not complaining, I just quoted Shadow's post rather than qouting the photo again smile

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MonsieurVelo wrote:

I agree Bullet3, the younger generation is almost told what to enjoy; this kind of film and this kind of book. I can speak from experience that it is considered odd when we broaden our minds beyond what is considered the norm for our age group.

Is this any different then when publishers churned out ghost written Hardy Boy books and the like? Guys, it's nothing new, except it's selling better and to both sexes.

I also agree with Invid, that it is positive that there is a wider young audience reading, but the problem is that most of them will never expand beyond this kind of book.  Things like "The Catcher in the Rye" and "Ender's Game" could be considered young adult but also masterpieces; surely they are much more enlightening and entertaining reads then supernatural soap operas?

Do they appeal to female readers? The same people who found those books before will still find them, as will some who in previous generations would have abandoned reading for pleasure but now will in fact keep the habit up through high school and into adult hood. As for those who "never expand beyond this kind of book"... you do know that most "adult" fiction isn't much better, right?

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Do they appeal to female readers?

I think Catcher in the Rye does, perhaps Ender's Game was not the best example, but what about Pride & Prejudice, Jane Eyre, I know why the caged bird sings, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Princess Bride?  These are all immensely entertaining to both genders whilst being of significant educational and philosophical value.

The same people who found those books before will still find them, as will some who in previous generations would have abandoned reading for pleasure but now will in fact keep the habit up through high school and into adult hood.

I agree entirely, but I believe social perception amongst the younger generation and the increasing influence of a mass media that actively helps in selling things like Twilight and the Hunger Games (which dominate the young adult section of book-stores and on-line retailers) is hindering the ability for people to find these books.  But you are right in saying that it might lead to people reading for pleasure beyond high school, something that is important and that I hadn't previously considered.

As for those who "never expand beyond this kind of book"... you do know that most "adult" fiction isn't much better, right?

Oh I completely agree but I'm worried that people who read Twilight now will end up reading Danielle Steele.  Of course, if they derive pleasure from this then I have absolutely no qualms, but I think that people read these at the expense of books that really matter and that can really change peoples lives.

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Has anyone here read the Underland series? I think (or at least remember thinking) that those books are fantastic young adult fiction. In that series, Suzanne Collins showed that she could fully express intricate and thoughtful ideas to a young audience.

...but the hunger games felt, empty to me.

Protection and power are overrated. I think you are very wise to choose happiness and love. -Uncle Iroh

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Hunger Games left me completely underwhelmed. I read the books last year and enjoyed them (didn't love them, but they're a super-quick and fun read).

The movie had been getting very positive reviews so I was excited, and maybe I let my expectations get too high.
Here are a few problems I had:

I normally don't mind the shaky handheld camera gimmick or quick cuts, but the amount and severity of them in the first act distracted the hell out of me.

I think the movie failed to illustrate just how big the social and economic gap was between District 12 and the capitol. Obviously there was a difference in luxury, fashion and technology, but nobody in District 12 seemed to be starving or as destitute as portrayed in the books.

Katniss never seemed to fulfill her role as a figurehead of a rebellion (which I'm sure will happen in the sequels, but the groundwork wasn't properly laid).

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