If we can put it off until March I would be happy to get back on the couch for Prometheus.  Such a missed opportunity.

All I have to say about working in/ moving to L.A., is have something lined up before you head out there.

I headed out for L.A. with no job, not even a place to stay lined up, no resume, no demo reel, just me, whatever would fit in my car, and about $1000.  I was able to find a place to stay right off, but in three months I hadn't found any work, I'd long since run out of money and things to sell.  Thanks to Teague and the gang at the Labs I was able to stick around for a few more months, but even that hit its limit.

I still hold out hope that I can get back out there, but now I know what I need to do before I get there.

Edit: I seem to be the only one who caught Teague's Bill Hicks bit, and Trey's Eddie Izzard bit.  I bring this up because I am a big fan of everyone involved.

Last edited by Matt Vayda (2012-09-26 06:05:00)

It'd be an interesting commentary - not only pointing out all the many flawed character motivations, lack of scientific rigour, inconsistency with the Alien universe, plotholes, unresolved questions, etc. But there's the wider issues of whose responsibility it is: Scott or Lindelhof? And how did it get a score of 73% on the Tomato meter, which exposes the gulf between mainstream older critics and younger genre specialists.

Oh gods, can the Prometheus commentary be on a Saturday US time? I want to hate fuck that movie from the chat room.

I suppose I should post an update for the purposes of intellectual honesty, and let everyone know that the day after we recorded this (about a month ago), I got a gig that I'm still at for the next week or so. So it's not exactly the dregs, as Paulou said, if you're VFXin.'

As for Prometheus, ugh. I hate DIFing movies I liked that everyone else hated. I'll just sit there quietly. Which might be necessary anyway, if there's gonna be eight people on mic.

Ya, Prometheus has to be done. The Phantom Menace comparisons are almost accurate, except that Prometheus actually has some extremely strong visual and directorial choices, which just makes the discontinuity with how awful the screenplay is even stronger. My hate for that movie has been growing exponentially with time.

I wouldn't have thought this initially, but it's probably actually worse than Alien 3, which while being a terrible sequel, is at least a consistent and successful genre movie if you ignore the Aliens connection.

Last edited by bullet3 (2012-09-26 16:34:28)

You mean the way the rest of the prequel trilogy totally redeemed Phantom Menace? Ya, I'm not holding my breath (although they're dumping Lindelof from the sequel, so maybe they realized how much he fucked up and will get someone to fix it)

I'm perfectly halfway between Teague and Dorkman.  I enjoyed long stretches of it, but it is absolutely hamstrung by some irreparable logic gaps.  It fascinates me because it begs a larger question: Do you like your sci fi grounded in hard science, and use the story to then commentate on sociological issues (The original Star Trek series at its best did this, as did many episodes of Twilight Zone) or do you focus less on nailing the believability of the science to pose even deep existential questions (Kurt Vonnegut was great at this, as were many episodes of Twilight Zone).  You can follow either path with mixed results, but I think the presence of Lindelof cannot be understated here. 

There's much to dig into on this one, and as always, I serve at the leisure of my DiF Overlords (DiFgeneers?).  If I see the Eddie signal go up, Rohan will answer.

I'm thinking back to when Menace came out and the big(?) hoo-har made about (iirc) why C3P0 didn't recognise Luke's home planet (when he arrived there in p4) since he went there in this movie (p1). People went on+on about the inconsistency and how this showed/proved .... something or other (can't remember what). But in p3, a simple memory wipe showed all the hoo-harers had jumped the gun with their hoo-hariness.  -> So I'm wondering if all the ugness felt towards Prometheus might just go/disappear when parts 2+3 have come out and the complete story is told.

[edit] thanx for all the clarifications below and @Lamer: it wouldn't surprise me 

Last edited by Fido (2012-09-26 19:53:58)

I think you may have that one backwards.

Re: Prometheus sequels:

And honestly, just for discussions sake, it's good to have at least one person defending the movie being done