Topic: Oblivion

Teague Chrystie

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Most snubbed movie of 2013: Cinematography, Score, and VFX.

Lots of similarities with Elysium:

Similar budgets: ($120M for Oblivion, $115M for Elysium).
Both made $286M at the international box office.
Both directors have only done one movie before.
Both have solid production design.
Both starred an A-lister that...

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sacrificed himself in an orbiting space station.

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not long to go now...

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So, listening to the 'cast now, and had to jump in.

I concede all the points about Oblivion being well made & great to look at and often intriguing, but in the way that Elysium is a great looking, thinky, dystopia sci-fi movie that blows it in the 2nd (or possibly sooner) act, Oblivion is a great looking, thinky, dystopia sci-fi movie that blows it in the 3rd.

Which make it mathematically better than Elysium, obviously smile

For me, the main problem is that when Dorothy pulls back the curtain, what the Wizard was doing makes sense retrospectively with what we have seen before. However, when the same takes place in Oblivion, it's impossible to look at the film as a whole anew and map your new knowledge over it. When we find out that back story and what had been happening all along, it does not describe a legitimate modus operandi on the part of the aliens. And not in a 'they are alien and who could truly understand their motives' way either.

It describes an alien (machine) race that died out the first time it tried to mine a planet without an indigenous race with opposable thumbs.

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So, get this: I'm listening to the commentary, having a grand old time (naturally) and right when Tom gets ambushed and knocked out, I made a mental note in my head to pop over to the forums later and complain that the panel was spending way too much time on the house on a stick. Then, like magic, Teague said my name and referenced that very thing.

I just gleefully love how well you guys know me by now. smile

Okay, so a couple of things about Oblivion and this commentary:

1. Ryan laments there is little to no levity, particularly in the beginning which would help to establish Jack and Victoria's relationship. There is a moment that is both funny and character-in-jokey. Jack is leaving base for the day, for his search for the two, missing drones and this exchange happens:
Victoria: Be careful.
Jack: Always am.
Victoria: No you're not.
Jack: Oh yeah. I gotta work on that.

I got the sense that this is a cute little thing they do with each other every morning and it tells us they know each other well enough to have this kind of back and forth. If Ryan is looking for other examples of comedy, there's the scene in the Library, with the rope that was already mentioned. There's also some

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clone humor later:
Beech: You look like shit.
Jack: You should see the other guy.

Come on, that's hilariously genius! smile

2. I understand the

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trailer kind of ruining the secret of the Scavengers
and without even trying, I was ruined on
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the cloning thing
but the fact that
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the Tet was the alien threat that was secretly controlling everything
, I was pleasantly surprised by. So, yay me for being stupid and not getting it, I guess? smile

3. That shack-house and everything in it should have been way more damaged than it appeared.

4. How does shack-house have electricity to play records and produce light?

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5. When Jack 49 sees Jack 52 fly overhead, how did Jack 52 not notice Jack 49, first, especially since he had just crashed so close by, mere seconds ago?

6. We see Jack's whirly-gig flying machine has gun turret capabilities, which includes the ability to shoot behind him and see what he's shooting at with video cameras. The drones seem to only have the turrets but not the eyes-in-the-back-of-the-head-cameras, allowing Jack to sneak attack them from behind. I'm sorry, what?

7. Was anyone else completely distracted by how the actress who played Victoria (who was great, by the way) had near-constantly dilated pupils like she was on drugs all the time? She looked like one of those little, Funko Pop Vinyl figures! Or my dog, when she approaches me with a tennis ball in her mouth!

There's more, but it's late and I need sleep. Just know that despite those "issues", I kind of loved this movie.

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Great episode.

Some jokes in the episode made me laugh out loud... yeah I lol'd.
Kinda wish the new name of the podcast was "You can't do that Movie!"

About Tom C. running well
Few years ago Mr. Cruise made a horrendious movie with Cameron Diaz called Knight and Day (2010). If I remember correctly there was a featurette that came with the movie. There the director was describing a scene he had blocked out to Cruise how he would run down stairs and perform a stunt or something like that. Cruise stopped him right away saying "I don't do stairs, it's not a good look for me".

The man seems to know what works and does not work in-camera for him.

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I'll add again the picture my friend took last sumer nailing his Oblivion cosplay fantasy.


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Hrossaborg - the location of the football stadium scenes in the movie.

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AshDigital wrote:

Cruise stopped him right away saying "I don't do stairs, it's not a good look for me".

One doesn't tackle stairs until one has passed Operating Thetan Level #15. Every Clear knows that by their third audit.

not long to go now...

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Speaking of Sci-Fi films where we nuke a space base to win, I'd love an episode on stargate.

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One Time @ Bland Camp...

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Got me thinking that the expedition vessel's name Odyssey, was the same as Apollo 13's CSM because they were both failed missions that returned (most of) their crew.

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This is the first episode where I was in the chat, and I think my only valuable contribution was telling Teague he must chill about the house on a stick.

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I dont know if it was brought up afterwards, but Trey had said that this felt like a novel/book.
That because it was a book that the director had written into a graphic novel with someone else,
and the project had to be abandoned for some reason. So basically it came from and unpublished
novel, so that is probably where Trey was getting that vibe from, so he was right on the money!

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Hmmm, I you guys keep saying in this podcast "who the does she look like???
about the main woman with black hair.
Of course she looks exactly like Catherine Zeta-Jones, which is who
I thought it was when I first saw her, and had to do a double take.

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Well, deuterium, as well as tritium, are also mined out of water for purposes of attempting nuclear fusion.  The reason for this is that these rare isotopes of hydrogen have extra neutrons that bounce each other around to create a self-sustaining sun-like reaction.  It's for this reason that I'm pretty sure those devices they have stuck in the water are nuclear fusion reactors.

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I had to watch Oblivion in two sittings. That's how little love I had for it. Now, the cinematography, the actors, the lighting, the VFX, they're all great, but the story just wasn't compelling at all.

That being said, I managed to watch After Earth in one go.

Yeah, no idea how I did that.

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I wonder if this would fair better as a foreign language version with rewritten subtitles? Could you improve the script but leave the action?

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With that kind of thinking, we can find you a job bringing anime to the US in the 70's and 80's!

I write stories! With words!
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I watched the movie yesterday, and I am still as lukewarm about it as when I saw it in theaters.



!!SPOILERS!!



The score for me is pretty bad, I could identify atleast 3 moments where it sounded exactly like the dark knight or TDKR, with the same type of texture, instrumentation or general feel. At one point it was a note for note ripoff. The synthy song that ends the film I have to admit is great, and the main melody is great, but it does not a good score make, it's completely derivative and unimaginative.

As for the story, it feels very fabricated to me. Almost every thing feels "off". So many things in the film are lazily explained just to justify that aspect of the film being possible in the first place. Everything is just so damn convenient.

The scavs just happen to need weird-looking helmets and voice modulators to fool the guard sentries, which very conveniently also allows the film to not show them to be humans. Also the first we see of them they are running on all 4s (like humans do?). Was that to confuse the sentinels aswell, or was that just to further confuse the audience and allow for the reveal in the middle of the film?

When Tom is fighting Tom they accidentally discharge one single shot in a random direction. Which by astronomical odds is exactly where Julia is standing.

The story is clunkily written. There are 2-3 moments I counted of instanced where characters say to each other: "hey, wouldn't it be neat if this thing happened... yeah, I wish...", and then at the end of the film it happens. It aims for setup and payoff, but it's way too obvious and poorly put forward, as soon as they say it you know that is what will happen.
I think it's better than Elysium, but not by much. It's bland, it really needed a artistic push in any direction to make it really distinct. Right now it's a bunch of beautiful but sterile CG shots, and a rudimentary "chosen one" journey of killing the evil bad guys.

Will listen to the commentary just now though, will be interesting to hear other POVs.

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