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Just watched Evolution for the first time. Pretty fun movie.

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Evolution is hilariously goofy and weird and a lot of fun.

It definitely was one of my group of friends' favorites in high school. I think the scene of the three of them taking down the alien in the shopping mall is among my favorite films scenes of all time.

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Pretty nice movie night this evening. Watched both "Heavenly Creatures" and "Taxi Driver" in what amounted to 4 hours of studying troubled characters. Really recommend both. "Heavenly Creatures" in particular starts off a bit off-kilter tone-wise, but once you get into it and the story progresses I really fell into it quite nicely.

Taxi Driver is, in a general sense, the slow-jazz version of Nightcrawler with De Niro substituted for Gyllenhaal. Also very recommended. Martin Scorsese has a very memorable and well-acted cameo that I wasn't expecting.

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Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro (1979)

Picked up the new Blu Ray of this last week, for the obscenely cheap price of $15. I'm thinking of posting a review over in that section, see if I can wake the crickets, but I'll post here too.

This is the first film directed by Hayao Miyazaki, who was an assistant director on the Lupin TV series and directed three episodes. Lupin is... well, a thief. A thief, a womanizer, and all around scoundrel. He is also the grandson of the great French thief Arsène Lupin, although this was done without the creator's estate's approval. For a decade or two the character's name couldn't be used outside of Japan, but that deal has expired.

The story? On robbing a casino, Lupin finds all the bills are counterfeit. Not only are they counterfeit, but they are the legendary bills that have been flooding Europe for a century. Deciding to check it out, he gets tangled up with a fleeing bride, and wacky mayhem ensues.

This is a wonderful movie, an influence on future shows as diverse as The Great Mouse Detective and the pilot of Moonlighting. Fun action set pieces, which take one minor mistake and logically snowball them to their obvious conclusion. If you are a fan of the character, the downside is Lupin is horribly out of character. He should be hitting on the young bride like craze, not being all noble and such. The rest of you shouldn't have a problem with that smile

The DVD has the Japanese track with both newly translated subtitles, and the 1980 theatrical subtitles. It also has three dubs: the 1990's Streamline dub (which is well acted but has jokes changed to try and appeal to middle America), the 2000 Manga dub, which added cursing to try and make it more like Manga's other releases, and a non-curse version of that dub. That's the one I'd recommend. There's also a "fan" commentary I haven't listened to yet.

Over all, this is a must see classic. The animation looks incredible, and just seeing a younger Miyazaki doing a comedy with some serious moments, instead of the other way around, makes you wish he had gone in a slightly different direction as a film maker. Mixed some comedy films in with his serious stuff. But, at least we have this.

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Squiggly: Am going to watch Predestination soon. Will remember to read your thoughts after I've watched it.

My week of watching new releases was kind of depressing. Here goes.


Terminator Genisys (2015) - 3/10 (7.1)

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My god. I felt like I need to watch both T1 and T2 to wash my mouth after all the watered down, overwritten material that was in this film. I'd probably rate both Salvation and T3 higher than this film. So many things wrong. This is one of those films where you can pause it every minute of runtime and find 4 things to tear apart in-depth, either editorially, directorially, script, acting, or otherwise.
This isn't just mediocre "Fan Fiction" like I'd categorize T3 and Salvation. No, Genisys just goes straight into hilariously bad, and doesn't look back.

The Red Letter Media video is perfect, it really sums up how worthy of ridicule this series has become, and this is only from the aspect of the pure mechanics of the plot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXJiSZhA5cg)

The aged T800 in the film makes a point of stating a few times how he's "old, not obsolete".
Then at the end, this theme comes full circle when the torso of him lands in a vat of the mimetic poly-alloy that makes up T1000s. A few minutes later the T800 shows up, now sporting a T-1000 body and saying "upgrade!". In other words, his torso landed in the goo, and he just took control over it and made himself a new body with the mimetic poly-alloy.

God damn I cannot cringe any harder.

As a Terminator film it is a 2/10 (they spelled the names of some people correctly so that's a point I guess), and as a pure action film it is on Paul W.S Anderson level, so a 4/10.




Jurassic World (2015) - 4/10 (7.4)

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Maybe I was still sore after Genisys, but I also watched JW. I did not care for it at all.
As a brainless, slightly cringe-worthy dinosaur romp, it will probably satisfy.

If judged in context with JP1, this is terrible. So little continuity with the logic of the world of JP1, The characters are so boring, energyless. Hammond is replaced with some CEO dude who lacks all of Hammonds charm and giddyness, and has no additional traits.
Music felt like someone playing imitations of John Williams JP1 music (lacking the refined performance of his scores) out of context behind the new film. The first act of the film has poor mixing, where the music is playing loudly over dialogue scenes where one would expect the music to not steal focus.

This was just so lazy. The mode of transport in the film is transparent glass balls with gyros. Why? Because WE HAVE TO ONE UP THE ORIGINAL STUPID. Also the balls surely would become completely dirty and greasy after just minutes of rolling through dinosaur muck and dirt and goo and crushing bugs and etc etc. But screw logic, shut up and turn your brain off, it's just a fun movie!

Maybe I missed something, I was expecting more after seeing the general reception of the film. Almost none of the details of direction, acting and plotting amount to anything. There's not really even a theme in the film.
The first film had Hammond be visibly defeated after shit went wrong. His dream was ruined, and he and Ellie had a conversation over Ice Cream.

JW has none of those scenes, at all. There's no pondering by anyone about what is going on. No character in the film has any real purpose. The finale of the film is just dinosaurs fighting. JP1 had the T-Rex deliver the final blow in the film as a perfect send-off. JW has some fan-service "you like dinosaurs, have 5 of them!" and then just ends. The humans are standing there like "well... that happened".

We follow the kids in the film for a quite large percentage. They have no personality at all. Literally. They are young brother and older brother. What are their characters? They have none. None. The filmmakers didn't even provide them with an adult to play off of like the 2 kids and Sam Neill in JP1. And JP1 atleast realized that the kids would have moderate possibility for character, so they made the fact that they were kids play off of Sam Neill's dislike of children.

I just can't see how anyone could find this beyond passable. The plot is more disaster movie than thriller, and yet they feel they can shove in forced humor at odd times. In JP1 a handful of people were in peril, and there were enough lulls in the action to allow for some wonderment.
In JW, we have 20.000 people running for their lives at large sections of the film, and yet in all of this the filmmakers expect us to forgive corny comedy moments. Hahaha, no but seriously, if you shut up you can literally hear the screaming of people dying a stones throw away. This plot does not allow the same dynamics as JP1, stop shoving it in, it's completely inappropriate.

The dinosaurs in this film, collectively, are about 50% as scary as the T-Rex in the car attack scene in JP1. so much money burning on screen, and the dinosaurs still don't look "there" at all. I counted one instance where it looked like they used an animatronic, i.e. something was actually there. Everything else looked really detailed, and very fake.

There was literally 1 moment where I thought "oh, that was clever". Like I was so happy to see something I felt was creative amid all this incoherent character work and plotting.

Underneath the dress-up of John Williams themes and kids in peril, this had barely any soul, and in the instances where the movie stops and allows for some kind of character interaction, I was just questioning why they would stop when there are fucking dinosaurs loose, get in the car you raving lunatic, the plot should not allow for you to do this unpunished. This thing took out a team of military guys like 30 minutes ago. I know you know because you watched it happen. I would stay in the god damn car.

But whatever, we need an imitation of the scene in JP1 where they come across a sick/injured dinosaur so the movie can pretend to have meaning because one character just started crying because the fake CG dinosaur looks so cute because like 5 animators worked on just the eyes on that one so you know it's meaningful, the time and money spent and all.



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Genisys is like a really bad youtube fan film. Looks like garbage, the writing/acting is bizarrely trying to be Whedony-self-aware which is like the worst idea on the planet for a terminator movie. Not a single memorable action sequence, and the first hour is largely people standing around giving boring exposition. I don't even feel comfortable calling it a movie. Like, it makes Terminator Salvation look good, and that movie is a total piece of shit.

T3 looks downright great by comparison now. I'm also thinking we need to step back and stop giving popular tv directors big franchise movies, because if Alan Taylor is anything to judge by, these guys have no idea wtf they're doing.

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I had no idea who the director was, but I just got out of the movie and it did indeed feel like a mediocre two-part episode of a television series. And such an ugly thing to look at, too.

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I dunno about the terminator guy, but the studios are hiring a lot of young indie-ish directors for huge gigs lately. "Oh, your last film had a $1 million budget and made $5 million in theaters? Have $150 Million and huge comicbook movie / latest installment or reboot of fan-favorite franchise!" Robocop, Godzilla, Spiderman, Guardians Of The Galaxy...

I mean, you gotta keep that budget down somehow, right? And then you can bully the new kid into doing whatever shit you want. They get less control over shit. The producers can demand script changes, and what the fuck is some snot-nosed young kid with one twee romantic comedy under his belt gonna do about it? He's out of his league, and the producers probably let them know that all the fucking time. "Trust me, kid, this big-budget movie stuff is a whole different ball-game than you're used to...  we'll deal with these things, you just shoot the movie and collect your paycheck and get a nice big movie on your resume."

The ones that have more than a few productions under their belt can probably hold their own, and I think guys like James Gunn know what they're getting themselves into when they sign on to something like that and can bring their indie sensibilities to the production and give it some flavor, but I bet a lot of them find themselves more or less clinging on for dear life and trying to follow the script as closely as possible so this big-ass movie doesn't become a fucking trainwreck that destroys their career. At the end of the day, you end up with a movie that's kinda OK. Not fucking terrible but not really that good, either. Just sorta 'blah' and safe and generic. No style. No flavor.

Applebee's doesn't hire 4-star chefs to cook at their restaurants. They hire kids and tell them how to make food and not to deviate from the instructions.


Your argument certainly makes sense, atleast on the surface. These new directors seem to have less of their own voice and vision, and that might just be what the studios desire.

However the results are sometimes also as bland and indistinct as could be expected.

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A big problem is that small-to-mid-range genre movies don't exist anymore for the most part, which means up-and-coming filmmakers don't have a chance to hone their craft and develop a voice.

James Cameron didn't jump straight into mega-budget filmmaking, people forget he started on Piranha 2, then Terminator, then Aliens. It wasn't until the Abyss he was really working at a scale comparable to a modern-day blockbuster (even that was only 70 mil, so about 140 mil today, not even on the higher end of a lot of these movies).

If he jumped straight from Terminator to T2, or Titanic, it probably wouldn't have been nearly as good

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I don't think you can use Cameron as a comparison, as he was writing his films. Piranha 2 was the only time (I think) he was basically doing work for hire. The rest were original projects he somehow got funding for. Even Aliens was a case of talking the studio into resurrecting an old movie.

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I personally like Jurassic World, but it just felt surface level to me. Most of the characters were caricatures who really needed at least one more pass on their writing and motivation to be solid. I think Owen and Claire are really the only exception. Hoskins and Wu's point of view are an interesting outgrowth of the JP world building, but not explored enough.

The dinos were ok, but really were not allowed to do much. Also, I get tired of people in peril because of *reasons* to add drama. There were tinges of man trying to assert dominance over the dinos that could be seen as the "control" theme from JP, and in that, I credit JW.

In short, JW felt more like a first draft of a potentially excellent film, but just was very shallow, with only a couple of original ideas that I liked. But, the tone and style was similar enough to JP that I felt like it was more a spiritual sequel to the original than LW or JP III were.

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I personally like Jurassic World, but it just felt surface level to me. Most of the characters were caricatures who really needed at least one more pass on their writing and motivation to be solid. I think Owen and Claire are really the only exception. Hoskins and Wu's point of view are an interesting outgrowth of the JP world building, but not explored enough.

The dinos were ok, but really were not allowed to do much. Also, I get tired of people in peril because of *reasons* to add drama. There were tinges of man trying to assert dominance over the dinos that could be seen as the "control" theme from JP, and in that, I credit JW.

In short, JW felt more like a first draft of a potentially excellent film, but just was very shallow, with only a couple of original ideas that I liked. But, the tone and style was similar enough to JP that I felt like it was more a spiritual sequel to the original than LW or JP III were.


I thought about it, and would you agree though that JW somewhat subverts the control theme. In some instances, JW shows the control work to the humans advantage. The raptors do the bidding of Chris Pratt at the end after all, and the T-Rex is essentially manipulated into the path of the I-Rex. It seems like a muddled message that goes against the first movies theme of more consistently showing the futility in controlling nature.

Unless one considers Pratt a good kind of control, more nurturing than dominating (the domination being D'onofrio's military man) . I guess that was a theme, but yeah, a few more passes of the script could probably have actually clarified that. Whatever scraps of thematic elements there are have no supporting structure, or have conflicting themes at other points. Nothing is really singular about it at all, you sort of have to guess at some things, and you need to ignore contradicting elements sometimes to arrive at a concludion as to what the message was in some cases.

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Guys. Not to be the asshole, but spoiler tag that shit or move it to the spoiler thread for JW please.

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Wing Commander

Vaportrail sat me down to watch this this weekend and I really enjoyed it. Feels early 90s from the production standpoint but avoids, for the most part, dialogue campiness. Some loose threads that could have been worked on more (apparently a subplot was left on the cutting room floor after screening poorly) but in all, it was a space combat movie and now I want to make a space combat movie.

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It must be an expectations thing. I saw it in theaters, and thought it was horrid. That was even without ever playing the games, just taking it at face value. Maybe I could watch it now and enjoy the badness.

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I do enjoy Wing Commander for the badness, but the one thing that stuck out to me was the aliens (don't ask me to recall their names-I never played the game). I just never bought them as a villain.

Beyond that, it was ok sci-fi action.

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They're mostly absent as well. The visual effects didn't quite work for them, so that's probably why they are hidden or sir not appearing in this film. I warm to the movie with each viewing, perhaps because I'm just a sucker for space combat movies. There are a few great scenes that I picture in my mind when I think of the movie - there's a great bit at the end I always like for instance. I like the cocky pilots bantering stuff too.

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I'm always a fan of pilots in space, so that's why I enjoy it so much.

It just could have done better with a different villain, but it does lend something to their menace that they are hardly present.

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Shutter Island (2010) - 9/10

Being a fan of both Scorcese and DiCaprio, I really enjoyed this flick. I've put it off for far too long, and regret doing so. Every scene and shot feels deliberate, every sound effect and angle feels like it's there for a reason, even though the editing and sound design can feel stuttered and annoying at times. The story works, mostly, and DiCaprio's apparent descent to madness feels like it's working really well. The ending works, too. It's a bit of a twister, but you start seeing whats coming about 10 minutes before it's revealed.

All in all, I enjoyed it, and I'm also fairly happy I decided to watch this instead of the third Hobbit film, which I'll probably putt off indefinitely.

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Shutter Island (2010) - 9/10

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From the same screenwriter that brought us Terminator: Genisys. Shutter Island was based on a novel it seems.

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That's pretty accurate! (Though for me, a lot of the jokes did land, somehow).

I'd recommend it regardless, 'cause it really is a "how on earth did they manage to get this made?" movie. It is so, so full of bizarre creativity and goes to places "kids" movies never go, that it's worth watching at least once. I think it's rewatchable, too. Actually, thinking about how much is packed in there makes me want to watch it tonight!

The first one is odd, 'cause there's really no plot, just a series of scenes connected together that somehow have enough charm to keep you from noticing how little is happening. Also, I still have a crush on their Joan of Arc. Gosh, she's so cute.

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Doesn't reach the dizzy heights of Ghost Protocol, but a solidly entertaining entry. Some truly death-defying stuff from Cruise yet again (the diving sequence from the trailer is incredibly impressive, and the huge car chase set-piece is deftly handled as well), and the cast are all likable and engaging (this is the first movie I've actually liked Jeremy Renner in). There's a great sense of humor throughout, which is much appreciated. The only major complaints I have are both technical—first, while this isn't color-graded within an inch of its life like most similar movies these days, the orange sheen to everyone's skin is rather offputting. Second, the strobe cutting early on is extremely irritating; one early sequence in particular was bloody impossible to decipher due to the number of cuts per second. This got better as the movie went on, but I was bothered enough by its early appearances to be taken out of the experience.

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Doesn't reach the dizzy heights of Ghost Protocol, but a solidly entertaining entry. Some truly death-defying stuff from Cruise yet again (the diving sequence from the trailer is incredibly impressive, and the huge car chase set-piece is deftly handled as well), and the cast are all likable and engaging (this is the first movie I've actually liked Jeremy Renner in). There's a great sense of humor throughout, which is much appreciated. The only major complaints I have are both technical—first, while this isn't color-graded within an inch of its life like most similar movies these days, the orange sheen to everyone's skin is rather offputting. Second, the strobe cutting early on is extremely irritating; one early sequence in particular was bloody impossible to decipher due to the number of cuts per second. This got better as the movie went on, but I was bothered enough by its early appearances to be taken out of the experience.

Before Mission Impossible 5: Rogue Nation, there was a trailer to The Man from Uncle, and posters outside to Spectre, and earlier this year was Kingsman. Starting to get spy-thriller fatigue. They're turning into Marvel-esque overload. Plot's always the same: spies have to chase some MacGuffin through exotic locales with some babe in an opera gown, using gadgets & quips, etc, all while not getting their styled hair messed up. Villain is some generic PC (can't offend anyone!) group that finds humanity degenerate and so we must start again by destroying everything.

Write down all forms of transportation on pieces of paper and throw them in a hat. Now pull out one piece - that's the chaser. Second piece: the chasee. Third piece: The chaser or chasee changes their vehicle mid-way through chase. Now which country is giving you the best tax credits this year? That's where we'll set it.
And what crazy stunt haven't we seen yet? Let's write a scene based on that. Repeat for five actions sequences (they cost $20M each and we got over $100M budget based on the A-list star) and get the algorithm to shuffle the scenes until we get something vaguely coherent. Or not, doesn't matter. It's a thrill ride.

not long to go now...

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I watched Casablanca again last night, absolutely love it.

it is a really good example of character arcs, We meet Rick as a self centered guy who sticks his neck out for nobody and ends up being completely selfless.

The dialogue is also brilliant, so many lines turn up as random nods in other films and TV shows down the years it is endlessly quotable.

also I think we've found where Agent Carter gets her dress sense.

I don't remember which episode it was but I believe it was Brian that pointed out that studios can make a buck by rushing out forgettable summer blockbusters but when it comes to quality someone somewhere is still making money from Casablanca...

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