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How To Avoid Being Stranded On A Deserted Island By Absurd Hypotheticals
Also, no scene or moment should ever exist solely to provide exposition. Regardless of the information you need to convey, each scene should still be about somebody trying to accomplish something according to their spine and something else happenig as a reaction to it.
Have the world worked out for yourself and make sure every scene is about somebody doing something and nine times out of ten, the information will take care of itself.
If some important piece is missing and the story isn't clear as a result, your test readers will let you know.
"You expect me to talk, Sauron?"
"No, Mr. Isildur! I expect you to die!"
And part of the point is that the different races refused to work together in any substantial way. The dwarves hate the elves, Rohan hates Gondor, Theoden hates Aragorn, etc etc. Sure, if everybody worked together from the start, Sauron and Mordor would have been no big thing, but that was rather the point.
If we so desire, we can dig in and discover that the Alliance is the Sino-American Alliance and the result of a merger of our present economic superpowers some centuries into the future. This explains why the characters occasionally curse in Chinese -- but at the same time, we don't need such an explanation. Hell, we don't even need to know it's Chinese. It's just as easy to accept that language will have evolved new vulgarities ("frak") and again, it isn't something that's relevant to the story at hand. It's texture. It isn't necessary to know it to enjoy what you're seeing; but it makes the world feel more real because the creators know it, and it helps them define the rules of the world in which the story occurs.
In fact, the more details we learn about the situation, the more distracting it becomes. It's only after you learn this whole civilization is an outgrowth of a Sino-American Alliance that you think (as Randall Munroe pointed out), "Hey, for a society that's supposed to be half American, half Chinese, there sure aren't a lot of Chinese people around.
As Dorkman said, and as I'm sure we've talked about on commentaries, it's important to have the details worked out for yourself so there's an internal consistency apparent, but that's all texture. Never stop the story to explain how your not-poker version of poker works.
It seemed justified to me in the Council of Elrond scene in Fellowship where they're like, "So...who's going to do this?" And nobody was willing to step up. Ultimately, Frodo did, but only after everyone else there tugged at their collars nervously for a few minutes.
Any detail included that isn't necessary for understanding the ultimate point of the story is technically a detraction.
The point where the amount of detractions will sway the opinion of each audience member will be different, but generally, the lesser the better.
Well, there are enough Star Trek names in there to officially make me interested...
who really UNDERSTOOD what makes the character work
I'M THE GODDAMNED BATMAN!
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.
*grumble grumble grumble*
Wanted is on there twice, FYI.
I heartily endorse this event or product.
"This is important. This means something."
Camus can do, but Sartre is smartre!
/isalsoadouche
In as much as I had a specific example in my head, I was thinking of Marty encountering Principle Strickland in the Alternate 1985 from Back to the Future II, with Strickland's comment, "The school burned down twenty years ago!"
Or whatever it is.
Eh, I say we reach for the brass ring and try to justify everything as best we can, even already acknowledging that the premise isn't the most grounded (HA!).
If we fall short, well, it's a thread on the Internet, we won't have lost much.
Do we want the plane to be the location of the central conflict with "mission control" as a supporting plot? Or is the plane more of a Macguffin and the central conflict happens in mission control? Is our main character on the plane or on the ground? And in either case, what are they trying to do?
If they're on the plane, then they're either trying to (A) Land the plane and/or (B) Stop the disease. If they're trying to land the plane...well, then, we're pretty much talking about Airplane! here. So maybe not so much. And based on Jeffrey's write up, not so much with trying to stop the disease.
When you get right down to it, there's only so much characters trapped on a plane can do and a good story requires characters doing things. So let's put the main action on the ground.
So our guy (or girl) is...what? An air traffic controller? Somebody from the CDC?
Isn't viral hemorrhagic fever the Ebola virus or something like that? The term seems familiar in the context of these kinds of movies.
I've never dressed up as Indiana Jones for Halloween, by the way.
Wow, neat. I always feel like I'm better at finding payoffs versus setups, so I'm going to jump in towards the end, but this should be interesting.
Hmm, it's probably time to take this to the religion thread if this conversation is going to keep going this way (and please, let's not).
Man, you guys really can't tell our voices apart, can you?
Also, there should be a singalong in there somewhere. And a case of mistaken identity.
And a bit with a dog.
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