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Wait.  With all due respect I am bummed if you decided definitively on The Back Row.  Again, this is an opportunity to make a first impression here.  I you asked me what I thought a podcast called The Back Row was about, I would assume exercise or racism.

Not saying it has to be one of my goofier suggestions, it's just that it's less indicative of moviegoing than Down In Front while still not covering the broader geek chic umbrella you were talking about.

Maybe Popcorn in the Cushions or something covers both.

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I am most proud of Artificial Incinemation.

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While I'm sure the boys are touched by your willingness to commit cyber arson on their behalf, I'm pretty sure they aren't the trademark holders in question.

CYBER ARSON

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It should be the title of your movie about a team of detectives tasked with taking down moonshiners while still making time in their busy schedules for sexual harassment, showing up late to work, ignoring the dress code and eating other people's lunches out of the Command post icebox.

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The Titular Blob
Pod "The Amazing" Cast
We're Not Asking We're Just Saying
Waiting With Obi Wan

BigDamnArtist wrote:

I keep thinking there has to be some form of "We're Professionals, But Not At This." that could work.

I just can't see the shape of it hmm

Irrelevant Professionals

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I hate The Intermission being the name of the podcast.  It's lifeless and neither captures the attention nor would it convince me that the participants were clever.  And this is like the wittiest podcast I've ever heard.

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Media Autopsy
Flicks Or GTFO
Ready And...Reaction
Uncut Film Buffs (doesn't work if Brian is secretly Jewish)
The Vomit Draft
What Would Joseph Campbell Do? (WWJCD bracelets)
Film School Debt
John Waters Smile
Magic Mike Scott
Third Act Twist
2012 Movie Dicks
The Girl With The Dorkman Tattoo
Box Offal
Pudu For Thought

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Royalty Free Commentery
Spielberging
The Spielbergers
Hollywood Repairmen
Cinema Circlejerk
Digital VS Film
Figrin Dan and the Modal Knowitalls
Friends in your Head
The Laser Swordsmen
Kind Of A Big Deal
The Zero's Journey
The Magic Bean
The Catsavers
One Of Us Knows Jim Cameron
The Nerd Carpet
The Recasting Couch
Screenwriting Is Easy
Presented With Comment
Untitled Bill Pullman Vehicle
Master an Commentator
Nitflickers
Moviebators
Filmasturbation
Cahuenga Labs
The Silver Screenings
Dorkman Makes Angry Love To Hollywood
The Best Boys

Cinemautistic
What Are You Doing, Movie?
Hollywood Jihad
Needs A Rewrite
Script Revision
Refusing The Call
Bring Back Dollhouse
Joss Whedon Authorities
Disney Bought Us
Outsource Material
Creative Hindsight
Dorkman Makes Angry Love to Ryan Weiber
Going To The Mansion
Smown In Front
Please Silence Your Cellphones
Set Phasers to Nitpick
Let's All Go To The Lobby
Back Row Fingerfucking
The Fanfilm Menace

Loud On The Set
Roll Audio
24 Lames A Second
Wilhelm Screaming
Surrogate Screenwriting
Reel to Feel
The Superior Sequel
Backseat Directors
The Matrix Was Worth A Columbine
The Zeitgeek
Artificial Incinemation
The 180 Rule
Hanging Lamps


I came up with those in the last hour.  I'm renaming this podcast or killing myself so just tell me if indeed to keep going.

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Oh.  I'm, uh, still doing that beard thing.  Six months, nearly.

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Channing Tatum and Ryan Reynolds do not belong to a gender group that has historically been oppressed, otherized, and objectified. Idealized men are the powerful, complex people you want to be. Idealized women are things men want to fuck. Any other questions?

Nope.  Nope nope nope, calling bullshit on everything but the first sentence.  Taylor Lautner was not "idealized" in the twilight movies.  He was a teenaged sack of meat that women twice his age wanted to consume in similar fashion to a salt lick.  Who was more sexualized in Casino Royale? The powerful, smart, immune to James' bullshit Vesper or Daniel Craig rising dripping wet in his skivvies for no reason?  Would John Carter have been cast differently if, much like transformers, the male lead was chosen via a topless carwash?  The man who pulls his shirt off mid-movie to reveal a rippling 40 pack is not a moment that inspires me to reflect on his power and complexity and genius, it's a moment for the girls in the theater to whistle and whoop in a way I have -never once- heard in a theater when a woman's boobs are showing.

Yeah, I'm thinking the solution might be to a) stop watching movies with shitty characters or b) call people out when they do this.  Or should we just kind of go with it?

That wasn't my point, for starters- the point is that women are not written that way because writers are a bunch of 'ists, they're written that way because it's so much easier and nobody cares.  I make an effort to mostly watch decent movies.  You have spent more years than I've been paying attention (and I've at least tangentially known of you since I was 15 or so) decrying shitty movies, as has Patton Oswalt and a legion of other movie people.  And yet shitty shallow movies continue to be written.  So maybe that is the solution, or maybe it isn't, but that's not the argument at hand.

Yeah, I did see all this as a kid. And I figured out at 17 that it might be bullshit. Just because I managed to see what I was internalizing doesn't mean everyone else will.  There are a lot of young women (and young men) who see this stuff and do swallow it. That's why we're having this discussion. Because while I might be a feminist in spite of all this, not everyone is. It's a problem.

I'm not convinced that it's causing sexism.  The most anti-woman I've ever felt in my life was in direct response to years of horrifying experiences with one woman in particular and several others orbiting that time in my life.  The same is probably true of women who have a horrible experience with one or several men and wind up in the opposite camp.  I have never met anyone who was openly anti-gender who wasn't divorced or otherwise had a formative experience.

In terms of casual "Mad Men" sexism, sure, that exists.  But those are either people who haven't caught up to the times or just stupid, bad people.  You figure out a way to fix the problem of stupid, bad people and I will join that crusade in a heartbeat.  As it stands, in the last 50 years women have moved forwards so much in society that while sure, there are pockets of life where they are legitimately oppressed or behind, I don't think it's worth being so angry about something that is clearly fading.

Off topic but I'll bite since it's I'm writing about this for my anthropology final. It's explained in Paula England's  “Devaluation and the Pay of Comparable Male and Female Occupations”,
Francine D Blau and Lawrence Khan's, "The Gender Pay Gap", Lisa Belkin's "The Opt Out Revolution", and Jerry Jacobs and Kathleen Gerson's "The Time Divide". Check 'em out.

I will certainly look into those.  I have recently discovered, to my horror, that the internet has eroded my attention span to the point that sitting and reading anything more taxing than a Harry Potter book for longer than a good sized article is a physical and mental struggle, but I'm trying to fix that.

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I'm sincerely curious as to what the difference in between Channing Tatum and Megan Fox and Ryan Reynolds and ScarJo.

If the question at hand is "why are women more sexualized in movies than men," it's because men 18-35 both happen to be the biggest money demographic and also like sex with women more than any other demographic.  "It sells" is the answer to most questions.

If the question at hand is "why can't women be sexy AND interesting, whole characters," the answer is because people will pay to see the movie either way and one is way easier to write. 

If the statement is "this provides bad role models to young women," you're a dick, because you saw all this as a kid and still grew up to be a feminist, but you assume everyone else is way more gullible and will flock to the path of Paris Hilton and Bella Swan. 

If the statement is "this is why women make less in the workplace," you got me, I have no idea why that happens and will accept any explanation as feasible.

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Hey, guys, I know what's worth getting hurt and upset about!  What a douchebag artist of no real value to humanity beyond entertaining SOME people SOME of the time thinks or says or does, ever!

I once wrote "Creepy Little Freak" on the forehead of a bald kid (clearly going through radiation therapy) who asked for my autograph, though, so I'm probably not qualified to speak on this subject.  I hope he wound up laughing as hard as I did.

I've learned that as a white straight male in America my opinions on just about anything are invalid, so I just sit these out.

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License to Kill by a fair margin.  Dalton is hands down my favorite Bond, though- pending my ever getting around to seeing Skyfall- Craig has a good shot at equaling him.  Casino Royale is easily my second favorite, then Goldfinger is tied with Live and Let Die.  Those four in combination exemplify everything Bond is to me.

I'm sorry, but there are no Pierce Brosnan Bond movies of any value beyond the fact that Sean Bean shows up briefly during his run and even that doesn't make up for the utter atrocity of that incarnation of 007. 

I think a more interesting question is "what is your favorite Bond SONG," frankly.  Least favorite would have been an interesting conversation before "Another Way To Die" ruined everything for everyone forever.

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TheGreg wrote:

Shakespeare wrote for money, but he didn't rely on copyright and sales of copies. His works were pretty freely copied and reproduced, and yet, somehow, he made a living.

Actually, there were rival playwrights who tried to sneak people into the Globe to have them copy down scripts word by word so they could sell the plays or put them on theirselves for profit.  This was a good way to get yourself stabbed or hanged in Elizabethan england, and Will and Burbage worked very hard to stop that sort of shit from happening.  When it did it did, but when they had new uncopied material they did everything they could to make money off of it.

Would you prefer a system perhaps where a vengeful artist might cut your throat?

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TheMargarineMan wrote:

Ahh, well with gun control much stricter here I need something to deter criminals.
Simply exercising my right to bear...cats.

Considering the gent you're replying to is from Chicago, your gun control is probably considerably looser up north.

I grew this beard with my face.  I'm pretty proud of it.

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Hoping for full Dumbledore eventually, but I'll keep updating you all.  This is face art, and I do it for all your patchy effeminate faces.

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Eddie wrote:

Guys...the sale ends TOMORROW!  What the fuck are you all debating here for.  BUY SOME GODDAMNED BUGGY WHIPS.

Oh I would, but thanks to Teague I can't get anywhere near a 16 foot kangaroo hide basketweave masterpiece without SOMEBODY throwing a goddamn fit because it "reminds him."  Little weepy bitch.  SHE'S ADOPTED.

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TheGreg wrote:

No. No it's not. I don't know where you got this bizarre idea. You should take some intro to law classes, or something.

Oh!  Oh!  We're doing the thing where we're dicks and make assumptions about one another's ability to speak on a subject with authority?  Cool!  I didn't know!  Well you're rude and stupid and probably in kindergarten!  Hah! HAH!  WHAT A WITTY RIPOSTE!  I HAVE SHOWN THE SCOUNDREL!

You mean that when you made your copy you deleted the one from the server of the place you took it? I guess that would be theft, otherwise it's copying, which may or may not be copyright infringement.

And copyright infringement is a legal way of describing the theft of intellectual content.  Which you would know if you'd taken those intro to law classes you're talking about. 

Shoplifting - the shop owner does not have the item. If I go into a store, see an item I like, go home and make an exact copy of it, that is not shoplifting.
Likewise all the other ones. Please stop propagating this nonsense.

No, see, you aren't making anything.  That's the point.  If you saw Raiders, then went home and made a copy of Raiders in your basement, the internet would worship you.  That's not what you're doing.  You're also not making a copy of a DVD onto your hard drive for personal use or you wouldn't be having this conversation.  What you're doing is going onto a server, finding a copy someone else either stole or purchased, copied, and then decided to give away, and then downloading and using it for free.   You don't deserve that.

You also don't get to say "lol, they they didn't lose anything."  Bullshit.  They lost you paying to see the flick.  Oh, you wouldn't have paid to see it?  Bullshit.  Before this technology was readily available you either paid to watch movies or you didn't watch a lot of movies, nothing about that model has changed except now you can easily get away with watching said movies WITHOUT paying, despite it being illegal and immoral, and now you do it.  Because it's easy and you want to.  Own up to it.

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TheGreg wrote:
C-Spin wrote:

You can say torrenting something isn't stealing because you're not taking it away from anybody, or you would never have paid for it anyway, but it's a form of stealing.

No. Let's deal with this again. Stealing is where I take something, and you don't have it any more. Copying is where I make an exact copy, and you are completely unaffected.

Dude, own up to it.  Stealing is when you aquire something that belongs to someone else without paying for it and without their permission.  If I cloned your mother against her will and took her in her ancient, darkish-red asshole with greasy enthusiasm daily, do you think she'd object?  Because, y'know, I just copied her, I can do with that copy whatever I like.  It doesn't matter how PERSONAL that copy is to her, or how I was never meant to have a copy, or how I'm now sharing that copy with my friends and she can't make me stop.... it's a copy so technically she hasn't lost anything, right?

It's a bullshit argument.  Watch this carefully please: I, Kyle, steal content because I can't afford it and want it and it's readily available.  Bam.  That's the top and bottom of it.  No excuses, no grand moral arguments about how technically it's okay, no.  I steal movies sometimes because I'm a bad person and want to.  Just like I drive about ten miles an hour over the speed limit not because of some longwinded explanation about how technically if I drove slower than that I'd be endangering people, but because it's faster and I'm impatient.

It's stealing, and arguments like yours have been around for decades to justify shoplifting, smuggling, and various other "real" crimes.  Just own up to it and stop trying to sooth your soul by arguing against people whose livelihoods are affected by it about how it's okay.

Now that that's out of the way:

Teague, seriously, let it the FUCK GO.  One time.  One god damn time with your sister and ONE blurry snapshot of her left nipple and chin with my phone and a year later you're still dragging this shit out to throw at other people on the internet.  Seriously, how fucking sad are you?  I wasn't even HERE.  You're proving nothing by dragging out all that drama AGAIN.  We settled it.  Your sister and I had one magical egg-nog fueled evening and you NEVER would have known about it if you hadn't found my hat laying there on her moist sheets while we were out getting post-lovin' Jimmy Johns.  She's technically an adult now, she can make her own damn decisions and so can I, and it's not my fault my photobucket got hacked and her nipple wound up on 4chan.

Just let it the fuck go man, it's not cool.  Move on and live your life.  She's fucking adopted anyway.

Fuck Lord of the Rings.

There, I said it.  Fuck Lord of the Rings, fuck Peter Jackson, fuck Howard Shore.  We need to get that RIGHT out of the way before I can even start to review Conan, because if you don't accept the fucking of LOTR, then you're never going to get my defense of this movie.  Full disclosure: the Lord of the Rings trilogy comprises my favorite three films of all time.  I like them more than Star Wars.  I can't rank them by how much I like each one, they simply occupy my top spot together as one, high above anything else.  No other movie I've ever seen has stirred my spirit as much as any of those films does even upon the umpteenth viewing to this day.  And yet, FUCK LORD OF THE RINGS.

See, Lord of the Rings is so unfairly good that no other fantasy movie or TV show can do anything without being compared to it.  One of the latter episodes of season 2 of Game of Thrones features a siege battle, and I've read reviews from cumfarts on the internet complaining that it was a ripoff of Helms Deep.  Which is interesting, because everyone involved said they specifically tried to make it NOT Helms Deep.  But it's a fantasy series, and it featured people with swords stabbing one another near a wall, so it was inevitable that the comparison was going to be made.  But not every fantasy franchise, be it film or game or television or novel, is Lord of the Rings.  Some were even made BEFORE Lord of the Rings, believe it or not, and therefore don't even owe a single damn drop of influence to Tolkien's work.  And indeed there were also fantasy movies before LOTR was adapted, and some of them were kind of awesome.

Conan the Barbarian as a character came before Lord of the Rings, and Conan The Barbarian's 2011 remake is a film made as though the Lord of the Rings films were never made.  And that's good, because there's a difference between Lord of the Rings and Conan: the former is High Fantasy, the latter is Sword and Sorcery.  It's a film in the vein of 80's S&S films like Fire and Ice or Arnie's own take on Conan.  It's a straightforward tale of a man done wrong who really wants to stab some fellas, with a couple mystical villains with baffling motivations and unclear powers.  It has boobs, it has sex, it has gore, and it has action out the ass.

Yes, there are parts of this movie that are dumb.  There are also parts that are quite clever.  Both dumb and clever parts are just an ASSTON of fun to watch- and that's the point of a Sword and Sorcery tale.  This is not a movie designed to make you ponder the notion of good and evil, to wonder if mankind's industrialization has lead to the loss of magic and wonder in the world.  This is a movie designed to make you want to tear your shirt off, decapitate some bandits, steal their slavewomen, and then fuck their slavewomen.  Jason Momoa embodies the literary Conan more than Arnold did in my opinion, and there are several supporting characters, good and evil, that are just fun to watch do their thing.

There are some fun visual references made in the film- I think I counted three horses getting knocked out either on purpose or by accident, and when there was a need for a monster in the film they made damn sure it was as lovecraftian as possible (Conan is generally accepted to fit into the Cthulhu mythos).

I'm getting worn out trying to explain what this movie is and why I think by Down in Front's standards it absolutely qualifies as a perfect movie.  Conan the Barbarian is the fantasy movie that jerks off us dorks that were fans of fantasy movies before Lord of the Rings came in, classed up the joint, and made it okay for y'all to know who Elrond is.  Before that happened, the greasy haired sword collecting weirdos like me had Conan, and we had Fire and Ice, and we even had Gor, and we ate that shit up.   Hell, we gobbled up Xena and Hercules, said thank you, and meant it.  Conan the Barbarian (2011) was made for us, and I personally want to find whoever was responsible for that and sing them songs of battle around their turgid penis.

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My counter argument to this is as follows:

People falling down.

I was fifteen, I'd just moved to a new school where I didn't know anybody.  I was told to shadow this dude named Fig, who was a chubby, sarcastic looking sort in glasses with spiky hair.  He was cool and we hit it off, based upon a mutual appreciation for Arby's and showing off.

About a week into this relationship, at a school Town Hall meeting, they announced that the guy elected to be Discipline Chair had resigned upon learning that there was work involved.  Since that guy had run unopposed, it was generally assumed that anyone who wanted the job could probably just ask for it.  Across the room, I see Fig stand and announce he wanted to do it.  I stood.  His eyes met mine, piercing green locked against the color of backlit root beer.  I announced that he could have that chairmanship over my dead body.

Over the next few weeks, we shot several "smear" ads against one another, and several "I approved this message" type hype videos.  We filmed a debate cohabitating the same bathtub.  I mooned the camera many times.

The final hype video prior to the election was shown, as the others were, before the entire school.  As the credits rolled, so did the footage of my bare ass.

The reception to these projects was tremendous.  The reception to my ass was lukewarm at best.  As such, I decided to stop trying to use my ass to get places in life, and instead use Fig.

And that's the story of how I became Teague's Jason Mewes.

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I saw it sitting one seat over from Teague and my opinion of the film is much lower.

It was gorgeous, and in every way a director can make a film good Fincher seems to have knocked it out of the park.  But the experience to me of the film was fifteen different plots crammed into two and a half hours, with one of those plots- very loosely related to any of the others- taking up almost the entire movie and the rest not much more than introduced and resolved with very little conflict.

I'm not as good at explaining my problems with movies as a Down In Fronter, so I'm just praying Dorkman or someone agrees with me and can phrase it more efficiently.

I'd fuck that Miss Piggy and I wouldn't feel bad.  Not even if I got rugburn.

Yes, absolutely, to either option.

Frankly, I've always considered the movies a pale imitation of the books.  So pale, in fact, that they are usually less than enjoyable experiences, because as I'm watching them I'm seeing somewhat the same story I'm familiar with but with none of the magic of the books.

Now, if I'd seen the films without reading the books, I'd probably think they were okay.  Likewise, I'd be WAY more excited for a brand new Potter story independent of a book than I was for the movies (of which I haven't seen the last two).  Without needing to be shackled to a very long book, they could build a Potter story made SPECIFICALLY to be a film, and tell a good FILM story.  And since it wouldn't be a story told masterfully in a book and then adapted as best they could into a movie, it would be fresh, and we'd all be hearing the story for the first time.

Honestly, I'd be tremendously excited and would bet money the product would be better than the "book" films.

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Am I SERIOUSLY the first person in this thread to point out that there are only a limited number of reasons to use a lipstick spy camera, and only a limited number of people Brian lives with?

My money is that as soon as this thread drops to the second page there's going to be a .AVI of Teague singing Menken songs naked in front of the bathroom sink going viral.