Oh, I'm sorry man. I didn't even think about that. Won't happen again.
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Oh, I'm sorry man. I didn't even think about that. Won't happen again.
Hannibal S02E10I'm reading an interesting theory about the last part of the episode: Freddie Lounds is still alive and playing along with Will to help him catch Hannibal. I got so caught up in the tension I didn't think this at all while watching the episode, but it actually makes perfect sense.Still, what Will did with the corpse of Randall Tier is pretty extreme. With the first episode's prologue, my guess is that Will's plan is going to succeed, but in what context and with which consequences for Will, I have no idea.
Also, long pig is another way of calling cannibalism, Wikipedia tells me.
Regardless of the outcome "You slice the ginger" made me laugh. And yeah, "Long Pig" is a term for human meat, and given Hannibal's refined palate, I'm assuming Will must have actually supplied some human meat, and is eating it with him, which is pretty fucking dark. I'm guessing it's from Randall since enough of him seemed to be in the freezer. They're definitely making a hell of a case for why Will didn't want to come back to work for Jack Crawford in Red Dragon.
This episode also had the best line since, "Peter, is your social worker inside that horse?"
"Can I have Carlos slaughter you a hog?"
It's kind of astounding that a show that is building towards a series of stories we're familiar with, and has shown us ten episodes ago where this particular season is ending up, can manage to pack in this many genuine surprises.
The Train Job is maybe a little clunky as an introduction when contrasted to the pilot, but I still think it's a very fun heist story after you get past the first five minutes or so. And it's got one of the absolute best moments in the entire series, a perfectly timed subversion of a tired serial trope:
War of the Worlds had a pretty good featurette on pre-vis.
That style is Morris signature style, filmed on a device he designed called, The Interratron. Basically, the subject sits in front of a series of cameras, all with slightly different framings. On the main camera, sits a teleprompter, but instead of displaying lines of dialogue, it displays an image of Errol Morris, since its hooked up to a camera focussed on him in the other room.
Errol Morris used to be a private investigator, and early in his filmmaking career (basically anything after Vernon, Florida) he realized that when you interview a person in the flesh, there is a natural confrontational element to him. Also, he wanted the eyeline to be DIRECTLY at camera, and if you interview someone, their eyeline is almost always to wherever you're sitting. With the Interrotron, he found his subjects to be much more relaxed, and it freed him up in the edit.
The jump cut style is in no way lazy. In fact it's much more work than you would imagine. It's his signature style (broken up with graphics, recreations, etc) and if it isn't your thing, no worries. But make no mistake, there is not a better interviewer in the history of Documentary film than Errol Morris.
Oh, and the music was Danny Elfman.
Thanks for the explanation, I genuinely had no idea, I've never seen any of Morris' other films. I'll check Unknown Known out then, for sure. If the technique is something that carefully considered, I can probably get behind it in a feature length setting, it just really turned me off in that clip. Reminded me of the way vloggers cut, which I've seen intentionally aped in at least a couple of modern documentaries. Much to my displeasure.
I was interested in The Unknown Known based on the subject matter, but then Morris was on the Colbert Report a week or two ago, and they showed a clip of the film. The style of filmmaking really annoyed me. There was this very obtrusive background music (Stephen quipped about it being horror movie music, which was dead-on) and Rumsfeld's talking head was jump cutting around to different positions in frame, seemingly at random. I can't stand that style of editing in a documentary, and the music just seemed lazy. Is that indicative of the whole of the film or did they just pick a bad bit to sell it on?
This show keeps getting better from week to week, it's astounding. Hugh Dancy is more deserving of an Emmy than anyone in recent memory. He won't get one, but man does he deserve it. The layers of Will Graham this season are fascinating.
And to contrast it to a similar scene in the Hannibal film, where Anthony Hopkins makes Ray Liotta eat part of his own brain... there's just no comparison. I was laughing at that scene in the movie, but I was giggling gleefully with the scene in the show. Scott played it so camp, whereas Fuller keeps it clinical and detached, with just the faintest twinkle of humor... I don't know how this show does it. They can have scenes as absurdly arch as Hannibal playing harpsichord in a cavernous, gloomy mansion and yet it's still one of the most subtle, layered dramas I've ever seen on television.
I know I have a tendency to gush in these posts, but it's rare that I feel such an unbridled enthusiasm for a piece of media. I'm usually the nit-pickiest motherfucker around.
The colors I see in this still stop me from even watching the trailer.
Do you think the aggressive orange/teal grading is something that we're stuck with forever, or in ten or so years are movies from this period going to look ridiculously dated?
Having 2 characters smoke marijuana is the least shocking thing that the show has gotten away with.
On a moral level I agree with you, but I'm not sure I do on an "American ratings system" level. We've got a pretty notoriously fucked up ratings system in the way it prioritizes offenses.
I mean hell, season one of Hannibal they had to digitally alter a shot to hide the Angelmaker's victims' asscracks with blood, because somehow that makes it more palatable.
Every scene with Gina Torres was beautiful and heartbreaking. I so love the character they created with her, she's a fantastic addition whenever she's on the show.
Though that reminds me, I was surprised to see Jack and Bella actually smoke marijuana on camera. The only network show I remember watching that featured marijuana use was That 70's Show, and they had to be all coy about that with their language and were only able to have the post-toke scenes with them sitting in a haze. Was it allowed just because they were using a vaporizer or have the rules softened on that sort of thing?
So episode three, while still entertaining, was not as good as I know the series can be. Episode four, however, was just full-on fucking outstanding. My favorite thing about this season so far is that there is a LOT of story going on here, they're moving things along at a rapid pace and they aren't padding this out. It's easy to look at the opening scene of the season with Jack and Hannibal and think, "Well clearly that's episode 13, and now I know they're just going to be treading water until episode 11 or so." To have Will so aggressively pushing Hannibal's buttons this early in the season is both surprising and admirable. Much like season five of Breaking Bad in that regard.
If Brad Bird is involved, I'm so on board for Incredibles 2 that I'm practically a boat captain. If Brad Bird is NOT involved... then the world is a dark, terrible place and there's no hope for future generations.
On the subject of Star Trek, does the Abrams reboot count? It's meant to be the same characters, but Leonard Nimoy showed up to pass the torch to Zachary Quinto and the other young'uns, in a sense. I still love Star Trek '09 even if Into Darkness was a disaster, so I'd call that a successful attempt, if it counts. It's the only one I can think of.
Well, and Ghostbusters actually already tried it in the 90's with The Extreme Ghostbusters, where Egon, Janine, and Slimer were on hand to train and support a crew of new, totally radical ghostbusting twenty-somethings. I liked it well enough as a kid, but I haven't gone back to revisit it as an adult. Though even as a child my favorite story was the two-parter where Peter, Ray, and Winston came back.
The procedural nature of the first half of season one bothered me a little too. I let them get away with it because the characters were so compelling and the storylines were stronger than what you typically see in Law & Order or CSI or whatever. But I'm very glad they're moving away from it.
At the same time, that kind of thing IS what Jack Crawford and his team DO, so it needs to have some presence. I think the way season 2 has handled it so far has been pretty perfect.
Season OneI also think that Hannibal is clearly so menacing, it seems a little silly for everyone to talk about him as if he's benign. At the very least, I wish they'd acknowledge that he's a strong presence and forceful personality. But that's really a very minor quibble.
I don't necessarily agree with this. I think Hannibal does a good job of hiding the menace from anybody he doesn't want to show it too. He's clearly an imposing, intelligent figure, but most people I've known with PhDs (not that there have been many) give off a similar aloofness.
Season TwoFor the whole first season, Will feared turning into Garrett Jacob Hobbs/Hannibal, but instead he's become Gideon. Ugh, such a shame they killed him off. I love me some Eddie Izzard.
It looks like DocSub and I are the only ones here who watch this show.
Last night's episode was yet again fantastic, probably one of the better ones in the series' (admittedly short) history. The opening was tremendously strong, and while I'm not usually one to be bothered by gore, they actually managed to make me cringe.
A few disparate points to hightlight: It's nice to see Will Graham starting to take a more proactive role, and I'm curious to see what his game plan is. Mads Mikkelsen got to deliver several very funny lines this week, on top of some of his best menacing work. The scene where Bedelia says goodbye in his office was possibly the scariest Hannibal Lecter's ever been for me, and he did so little. The subplot with Bedelia has not played out as I expected, and I'm hoping that's not the last we'll see of her.
There really is nothing else like this on television and it's the first show in a long time that I HAVE to watch live, I find the week-long wait so unbearable.
Man, this is my favorite show on TV right now, and I'm in total agreement on Mads Mikkelsen. I think this is easily the best Hannibal Lecter material to hit the screen, Silence of the Lambs included. Don't get me wrong, great film, but I really love this show. As Doc says, very smart psychology presented in a gorgeous package, it's amazing to look at. It manages to maintain the perfect balance between a grounded reality and the totally absurd, over-the-top macabre. And while I single out Mads, the whole cast is fantastic. So psyched for season 2 tonight.
The thing is that this show shouldn't even be GOOD. NBC produces a Hannibal Lecter prequel. It's such an obvious, shameless cash grab that it almost makes you angry. Then they cast Mads Mikkelsen as Lecter and I sat up and took notice, decided to watch it, and the pilot had me hooked. It's so easy to write it off if you haven't seen it, but it's worth checking out.
Well that was disappointing.
This season it might as well be a fantasy show. This was seriously Frank's plan all along, to win the presidency this way? It's so far-fetched that somebody would even attempt something this convoluted, let alone succeed. And to what end? He's had so much dirty laundry aired across this entire season, he's had suspicious activity investigated, and many of his colleagues KNOW he was actively gunning for the Presidency near the end. We saw in the 60 Minutes interview that the public was aware enough of the details to, I think, be damaging.
I mean if we think about it... Even without being privy to the inner workings as we are, anybody with half a brain can look at the public record on Underwood and realize that he was manipulating this since the moment he started helping Peter Russo. It's not going to be long before questions start to be asked, is it? And why did he have to acquire the presidency THIS way? He's got a long, successful political career, he's wealthy, he's charismatic, good at fundraisers, good at rallying support... why the fuck not just RUN for President, if you want it so bad? Did Walker going back on his word seriously piss him off THAT much?
But as convoluted as the plot was, there are two things that bothered me more. The first was the major character assassination of Doug Stamper. He was my favorite character in season one. Cold, calculating, efficient, fiercely loyal, and yet his handling of Rachel hinted that he had more going on under the surface. This season turned him into a sloppy, jealous freak with an unhealthy obsession. And then killed him and dumped his body in the woods. I loved the way Michael Kelly played his death scene, but it should never have happened.
Second thing: Frank and Claire Underwood are about the worst sociopaths ever this season. They're never not detached and robotic, even when they're supposed to be playing their parts. The most egregious example was after Marine girl's interview, when she's all excited and bubbly and pleased with herself and thanks Claire for empowering her, Claire doesn't even pretend she's human. Where's the superficially charming mask of season one?
Final niggles: Everything with the McPoyle brother, his guinea pig, and his l337 h4x was awful. The three sexy scenes (Feng's intro, Rachel and Church girl, the Underwoods with Meechum) felt very gratuitous and unnecessary, like when a teenager swears to show you how mature and grown-up s/he is and ends up conveying the opposite. Unless Claire having taken Meechum's blood pays off in season 3, then I'll allow that one. Tusk was a bumbling cartoon villain, as has been pointed out. The President forgives and is chummy with Frank WAY too quickly. They were good pals again by the time the POTUS resigned. Zoe's death was shocking and unexpected, but as with many of the shocking developments this season, no consequences. And how in the fuck did no security cameras catch Frank?
Anyway, despite the ranting here, it held my interest and obviously I watched the season pretty quickly, but it became clear by the time Lucas was gone for good that it wasn't going anywhere satisfying.
I still maintain it doesn't matter who's in the suit, as long as there aren't nipples on it.
That's true assuming Ben Affleck's role in the movie is mostly as Batman. Put on a gruff voice, have a chin, and look like a badass when you stand in the corner with your cape wrapped around your shoulders. Costuming and cinematography will do most of the heavy-lifting, and Zack Snyder has proven himself to have impeccable taste with regard to those areas.
But if they do something like Bruce Timm did with the World's Finest crossover on Superman: TAS and have a significant subplot involving Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor... I dunno, that feels iffy to me. Nolan's films pretty well nailed the Bruce Wayne public persona, and if you slot Ben Affleck into that type of scenario I don't see it working. I'm going in optimistic on this one, and I hope I'm pleasantly surprised, but I have a very hard time envisioning Ben Affleck working in the Bruce Wayne role.
Jeremy Irons makes total sense as Alfred, and I can see Eisenberg being an interesting Luthor in any number of unexpected ways. Affleck's still the big question mark for me. Fortunately I'm suffering from serious superhero fatigue and thought Man of Steel was a pretty dull, ineffective movie, so I'm not super invested in this. But they're getting me curious with all these left-field choices.
I'm pretty surprised by Dorkman's reaction. It's still far below the level of quality Lord of the Rings set, but I thought Smaug was a marginal improvement from Unexpected Journey, overall. It takes many more liberties with the source material, but I knew that going in and decided to accept it and try to enjoy the story they opted to tell. And actually, so help me, I was really enjoying it for a minute there. To me the whole opening totally delivered on the promise of a Hobbit adaptation; a LotR prequel that's a little lighter in tone and is more just a fun fantasy adventure movie.
And I felt that way right up until the barrel sequence. That's when the film started to lose me hard, and the ratio of entertaining to infuriating kept getting progressively worse as the film wore on. But that was true of the first one as well, I just think the best here is better than the best there. It doesn't become an awful, unwatchable mess until the Dwarves muscle their way into the climax, much later than Unexpected Journey did (about the time they left Rivendell, by my reckoning).
Really most of the bad stuff is only bad because it has no place in this movie. The barrel sequence taking place in Tolkien's Middle Earth is retarded, but if Jackson had put it in the next Tintin I would have fucking loved it.
Not a great movie, but adequate. Far from the worst I've seen this year, and not the worst of Peter Jackson's Middle Earth, either. If I watch it again it'll be for the commentary in a year, then probably never again, but it wasn't garbage.
C-Spin wrote:SPOILERS
The vibe I got, and thus my personal canon, was that she was lying about being the Moment's interface and it was actually Bad Wolf Rose.
Oh, That's good. I love that. I'll have one of those.
Altho...It slips a LITTLE at the end when Bad Wolf doesn't dissuade our Doctors and actually gives them a big red button to push. If that was the intention, then you'd think she'd forcefully try to get them to come up with something else. I was rather taken with the idea of a bomb so smart it doesn't want to be used. That felt like a Douglas Adams beat.
My theory isn't perfect, but I think it works if you want it to work. The idea of a bomb so smart it doesn't want to be used IS clever, but then she Christmas Carols him into wanting to use the bomb anyhow, so that doesn't necessarily play either. The machine accidentally mistaking his future for his past seemed kind of naff to me, and I think it's a little more elegant if it's real Bad Wolf Rose rather than a projection. That said, I doubt it was Moffat's intent, and I'm probably just seeing what I want to see. Which is weird because I'm not even a Rose fan.
SPOILERS
The vibe I got, and thus my personal canon, was that she was lying about being the Moment's interface and it was actually Bad Wolf Rose. Made sense to me, given that she saw how torn up Nine was about his actions in the Time War and had the power to do something about it for a brief moment when she was a God.
Anyway, loved the special. Some of it didn't work as well as it could have, but over all it was pretty great. The fanboy in me wishes we'd actually seen Davison, (C) Baker, McGann, and Eccleston, but that would have really crowded out the story. Squealed when Capaldi showed up for a second.
I enjoyed the episode, but it was more for Matt and Jenna than it was the episode itself. Been loving the new intro since Christmas, VERY Classic Who.
Was it just me or was this episode HEAVILY reminiscent of The Idiot's Lantern? Right down to the bike-riding. Better production values and set in the modern day, but otherwise...
Wow. I just watched this for the first time in ages and was suitably horrified. I couldn't afford a camera for the longest time but I still wanted to make films, so I taught myself animation using a free program called Anim8or, which was actually sort of awesome. This was after trying to teach myself to do traditional animation in Paint, which... y'know... was shitty. I put this on Youtube after the fact because some friends wanted to see it, I think I did it in 2006? Somewhere in that neighborhood.
It was for some Anim8or forum contest that was about Newton and his laws or something, so of course I went for the most obvious thing imaginable, and then... Not sure why I took it where I took it. Blocked in some countries due to the soundtrack being stolen from Smashmouth, so sorry to our foreign friends. But not really. You're the lucky ones.
So that was it... and I really haven't gotten much better since then.
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