776

(121 replies, posted in Episodes)

johnpavlich wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:

He has to be humbled in order to be a better leader....

I've not seen Into Darkness, yet and it's been a long time since I've seen the first one, but wasn't that his deal in the first movie? Didn't Kirk realize he wasn't ready, nor as great as he thought he was, so he let Spock take the lead on that mission in defeating Nero, or something?

Actually, no. He takes the lead on at that moment Spock steps down. That's the point that from then on, he is the leader, on the away mission and the plan to destroy Nero's ship even if they are still on it.

But, the whole giving command back to him thing in ID is part of Marcus' plan, not a sign that he is ready. I maintain that both Trek films are far deeper than they are ever given credit for.

777

(121 replies, posted in Episodes)

Darth Praxus wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:
Ewing wrote:

I really need to see that shootout between the crew, the Klingons and Khan again. In the theater I had no fucking idea who was shooting at who, who hit what, or where anyone was positioned. I don't recall the shootout aboard Nero's ship in Star Trek '09 being nearly as chaotic or logistically incomprehensible.

I really wish I knew why I can follow this film no problem and it doesn't bother me.

I don't think it is the greatest film ever but it certainly is not a bad movie, for me. I enjoy the character development and social commentary. The action stuff is hit or miss but it doesn't break the movie for me.



I'm honestly curious, what development of any kind do you see? Because as far as I could see not a thing changed in any of the characters.

One of my favorite character dynamics is Kirk. One aspect of the ST IT is the fact that it does not fulfill audience expectations. When 09 ended it was expected that Kirk would step right in to the TOS era as the captain of the Enterprise. But, as was noted, there is no way for Pine Kirk to be exactly like Shatner Kirk because of the loss of his father.

When ID starts, Kirk is kind of expected to be jumping right in, but instead, he is still shown to be immature and arrogant in regards to command. He is book smart but lacks any sort of experience that allows him to admit to mistakes. Admiral Pike calls him out on that. But, he doesn't recognize it. Shatner's Kirk is flawed but he can recognize it. Pine's Kirk doesn't recognize that. And that is part of his arc that fascinates me. He has to be humbled in order to be a better leader. Khan and Marcus are reflections of what he could become if he follows their way and Pike is the father figure he needs to become better.

It is odd, but it reflects a bid of Roddenberry's point of view towards humanity that humanity will rise above the petty differences and become more "evolved," to use his term. There is a reflection of TOS in that not every one in the Federation is satisfied with the type of society produced, there is an aspect of Kirk not fulfilling his full potential in 09 and that arc is continuing in ID.

That is for me, though. I am all about characters moments in movies and Into Darkness really rings true for me.

778

(121 replies, posted in Episodes)

Ewing wrote:
avatar wrote:
Trey wrote:

However ST:ID- while still delivering lots of bangbang - completely abandoned any pretense of logic or sense.  It's not just the dumbest Trek ever, it's a dumb movie in general.

Dumber than a hammer full of sacks. This is all I remember of it...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meloes6SoT1qbdmjeo1_500.gif

I really need to see that shootout between the crew, the Klingons and Khan again. In the theater I had no fucking idea who was shooting at who, who hit what, or where anyone was positioned. I don't recall the shootout aboard Nero's ship in Star Trek '09 being nearly as chaotic or logistically incomprehensible.

I really wish I knew why I can follow this film no problem and it doesn't bother me.

I don't think it is the greatest film ever but it certainly is not a bad movie, for me. I enjoy the character development and social commentary. The action stuff is hit or miss but it doesn't break the movie for me.

779

(2,068 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Got to watch Captain Phillips tonight and it is an incredibly well done movie. I was rather surprised by the direction they took with it, the general lack of score, and some very tight editing. While I know it was based upon a true story, the adaptation conveyed a real world sense of tension as it progressed towards the conclusion. Even knowing the ending did not ease the tension.

Certainly worth a watch: 9/10

780

(30 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Doctor Submarine wrote:
Darth Praxus wrote:

I only just now realized he's saying "descender of the demon horde" instead of "defender" and oh god what is happening.

It's because he descends them. Like, he makes them go down. Into Hell. Brilliant writing.

I saw it yesterday. It's terri-great. I laughed my ass off. None of the actors are capable of selling the idiotic dialogue, least of all Aaron Eckhart. Miranda Otto's LOTR experience helps her out, but even she can't get away with lines like, "I am High Queen of the Gargoyle Order."

I'll let you see it for yourself, because it's truly amazing, but I do want to share one detail. The Gargoyle Headquarters is not only in the same city as the Demon Headquarters, but they're within walking distance of each other. And the Gargoyles apparently didn't know that.

http://media.veryfunnypics.eu/2012/10/funny-picture-a-man-using-apple-maps-walks-into-a-bar-555x366.jpg

781

(364 replies, posted in Episodes)

I keep thinking of films and then forgot when I get in front of computer. Apologies for repeats but they are on my mind right now:

-Species
-My Favorite Martian
-Wolverine: Origins

And the train of thought derails...stupid head cold

782

(2,068 replies, posted in Off Topic)

The level of work that they put in to Forward Unto Dawn was pretty amazing, given the whole thing was a giant promo for Halo 4.

However, I thought the project was well done and makes me wonder what is holding up the Halo movie.

Seriously, go watch it.

783

(121 replies, posted in Episodes)

Teague wrote:

What's crazy is I don't even give a shit about the retcon stuff.

Like, I could pretend to, but I don't. I'll leave that to either Brian or Paul, depending on the tone of the Disney-related conversation we're having at the time.

But my god. Consider this my foreshadowing for the commentary. "Fridge-Emotion." That fucking movie.

http://www.qwertee.com/images/designs/zoom/3344.jpg

784

(956 replies, posted in Off Topic)

This really is for Trey:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/44471_10151928465720765_1219965047_n.jpg

785

(2,068 replies, posted in Off Topic)

BigDamnArtist wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:

but Sam's performance does not always sell me as well as Bridges and Wilde's does, so that might be part of it.

Sam is definitely the weak point of the cast. He has some really good moments, and a fair number more not so great ones. But like I said, I'm not sure if that's Garrett's fault or the fact that ~%60 of his lines are cheesy over-the-top acting lines.

This may be true.

786

(2,068 replies, posted in Off Topic)

^^

Well, I might have to revisit it now too.

I think the story gets a little too harsh of criticism at times as well, but Sam's performance does not always sell me as well as Bridges and Wilde's does, so that might be part of it.

Tron's return and Flynn's sacrifice are definitely among my favorite moments in the film. Good times smile

787

(97 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I have horses in this race (much like the Super Bowl) and I still could not care less about the Oscars.

Somewhere, there is a Game of Thrones quote that is applicable to my feelings...

788

(8 replies, posted in Episodes)

avatar wrote:

And then there were five: Gravity, Hobbit 2, Lone Ranger, Iron Man 3, and... Star Trek Into Darkness (WTF!)

Oblivion & Elysium got screwed.

I am surprised that Elysium didn't make it. Also surprised that Lone Ranger did make it...

Star Trek won't win but glad it made it.

789

(649 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Snail wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:

Also, I mentioned finding Indiana Jones in Yoda Stories:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081202021555/starwars/images/f/f8/IndianaJonesAndTheStoriesOfYoda.jpg

I found him too, I think he was a teaser for a Yoda Stories-esque
Indy game that wasn't released.

Actually, no (and to my surprise) Indiana Jones came first:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jo … Adventures

790

(649 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Snail wrote:

Yoda Stories was awesome.

Shadows of the Empire for N64? Anyone?

As I said in the podcast, I actually preferred Perfect Dark for 64 wink

Actually, I played Shadows of the Empire for PC and thought it was a fun game. Dash Rendar being one of my favorite video game characters, next to Kyle Katarn.

Also, I mentioned finding Indiana Jones in Yoda Stories:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081202021555/starwars/images/f/f8/IndianaJonesAndTheStoriesOfYoda.jpg

791

(123 replies, posted in Episodes)

Trey wrote:

Agreed.  Plus it is never okay to shoot anyone in a movie theater for texting at any time.

Of course, this was in Florida so that warning should probably be shown onscreen before every movie.

I believe this should be a policy of not shooting anyone over texting, regardless of location.



(Dear Firefox, it is the year 2014 and texting is a common. thing. I shouldn't have to add the word to the dictionary. Thank you.)

792

(431 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Dorkman wrote:
Lupinpatronus wrote:

My worst injury was in high school when my kneecap popped out of place and I was out of commission for a month.

Hey, me too! Traumatic dislocation-five!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_73Ll0Gh1I0M/SgK_M_4FWqI/AAAAAAAAAvc/RtT1WNyYMeE/s400/scrubs_todd_five.jpg

Oh, and welcome smile

793

(95 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Invid wrote:
Saniss wrote:

Legolas' bigger jerk of a daddy is quite forgettable, though. The whole elf part kinda destroys the idea that they're pure and perfect and gay. I mean, who have two passed out drunk in the cellar. Wasn't really expecting that either.

I was in 3rd Grade when the old animated version of The Hobbit came out, which got me to read the book. Thanks to that, I NEVER pictured the elves in The Hobbit to be the same as the ones in Lord of the Rings. The Mirkwood elves were always these semi-evil drunk ugly creatures to me.

Given how they looked that is no surprise to me at all.

As to Saniss' point, one of the reasons I like the Mirkwood Elves is the fact that they are presented as imperfect. That isn't just in Hobbit or LOTR. That is actually a part of Tolkien's mythos and much more compelling to me as a race. The Elves are magnificent in their culture, but their failures can be just as magnificent.

794

(364 replies, posted in Episodes)

johnpavlich wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:

...I would be down for Batman Begins, because it is one of the more interesting parts of the series as far as character stuff goes. The whole "becoming is more interesting" stuff smile

In our commentary track for Batman Begins (we've done all three, by the way), while usually, "Becoming is more interesting than being", Zarban and I make the case that this is one of the rare instances where the opposite is true.

While I like the Dark Knight (my favorite of the Nolan Batmans) I think that Batman Begins has a lot more potential than most will give it credit for. For starters, Batman is a bit of jerk, arrogant and egotistical, caring little for the needs of his company or the city in the way that his father did.

I actually don't really like who Batman is in Nolan's Batman movies, and BB is no exception. What I like is what he is trying to learn and become and the journey of becoming Batman.

I'm sure you guys make an excellent point regarding BB being less interesting, but I still prefer Batman Begins for Bruce Wayne's story, over Dark Knight and Harvey Dent. I think it is seeing the potential of what Bruce Wayne could become and his struggles to be that person.

795

(87 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Saniss wrote:

I wish we'd had more Tarkin in the OT. Peter Cushing was the most classy of all.

(he wore white gloves to smoke his cigarettes for fuck's sake)

Didn't know that about Cushing. He is now more amazing!

796

(87 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Peter Mayhew apparently found "that" box with all his SW pics in it:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19c94tgeczaiajpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bdbo6w5CcAARUuP.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bdlw_tKCIAAx-Zi.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdbAV1CCEAECVZ-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdlUvj8CIAAHLtU.jpg
This one is totally for Teague
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdlWNjUCcAAahFo.jpg

Lots more at Mayhew's Twitter feed @TheWookieRoars

797

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Zarban wrote:

Drew wins, but it was a bit of a trick question because the photographer is pregnant, so I'm afraid that negates any wagers.

Unless we start betting on the gender and birth date

798

(364 replies, posted in Episodes)

drewjmore wrote:

That's that Gagnam style guy, right? <ante upped>

Wait, aren't we talking about that movie with the tiger? wink

799

(135 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Squiggly_P wrote:

The thing that burns me the most about this whole incident is the fact that not a couple weeks prior to it I was really excited for his next flick and hoping that he would land a couple of breakout roles that would show people what a good actor I genuinely think he could be.

But he's a fucking mental case, apparently, or he's having one of those episodes that happens right before they go missing for a few days and then someone finds the body.

Or finds them with a body and covered in blood...

Man, sounds like the script from a really deranged indy movie.

*goes and sobs in the corner*
Teague angry now...