Darth Praxus wrote:fireproof78 wrote:Ewing wrote:I really need to see that shootout between the crew, the Klingons and Khan again. In the theater I had no fucking idea who was shooting at who, who hit what, or where anyone was positioned. I don't recall the shootout aboard Nero's ship in Star Trek '09 being nearly as chaotic or logistically incomprehensible.
I really wish I knew why I can follow this film no problem and it doesn't bother me.
I don't think it is the greatest film ever but it certainly is not a bad movie, for me. I enjoy the character development and social commentary. The action stuff is hit or miss but it doesn't break the movie for me.
I'm honestly curious, what development of any kind do you see? Because as far as I could see not a thing changed in any of the characters.
One of my favorite character dynamics is Kirk. One aspect of the ST IT is the fact that it does not fulfill audience expectations. When 09 ended it was expected that Kirk would step right in to the TOS era as the captain of the Enterprise. But, as was noted, there is no way for Pine Kirk to be exactly like Shatner Kirk because of the loss of his father.
When ID starts, Kirk is kind of expected to be jumping right in, but instead, he is still shown to be immature and arrogant in regards to command. He is book smart but lacks any sort of experience that allows him to admit to mistakes. Admiral Pike calls him out on that. But, he doesn't recognize it. Shatner's Kirk is flawed but he can recognize it. Pine's Kirk doesn't recognize that. And that is part of his arc that fascinates me. He has to be humbled in order to be a better leader. Khan and Marcus are reflections of what he could become if he follows their way and Pike is the father figure he needs to become better.
It is odd, but it reflects a bid of Roddenberry's point of view towards humanity that humanity will rise above the petty differences and become more "evolved," to use his term. There is a reflection of TOS in that not every one in the Federation is satisfied with the type of society produced, there is an aspect of Kirk not fulfilling his full potential in 09 and that arc is continuing in ID.
That is for me, though. I am all about characters moments in movies and Into Darkness really rings true for me.