So I've never seen this movie. In fact, of all the movies FIYH has covered that I've never seen, this is the one I know least about. Someone give me the one-sentence pitch.
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So I've never seen this movie. In fact, of all the movies FIYH has covered that I've never seen, this is the one I know least about. Someone give me the one-sentence pitch.
Does 4Chan do those 'Ask Me Anythings' =P
"From the man who brought you 'Alarm Clock'..."
I think that a music video would be the best way to promote it. I mean, that's how big musicians always do it. Release a single, release a music video, release the album. Maybe put whatever you think the most appealing song is up for free download, or on YouTube, because people love free. And if they like what they hear, they're more likely to buy the album when it's available.
So. That episode.
Hank was willing to offer up Jesse on a platter in order to nab Walt, so I'm not really rooting for him so much anymore.
Saw it last night. Thought it was absolutely pants.
I don't know what that means, but it's my new favorite saying.
I'm rooting for Hank at this point, if only because he's the underdog, especially after that DVD. At this point, there's absolutely nothing tying Walt to Heisenberg except for Skyler or Jesse's word, and since Skyler isn't ready to give him up, Jesse is the last loose end, which makes me worried for his future.
The one thing I'll add is I noticed Jodie Foster's lines were mostly if not all overdubbed. I think her weird performance might be because she did the part in a different accent (given she speaks French a few times, I would guess a French accent), then they thought better of it for some reason (hard to understand, too silly, who knows) and then redid the lines more "neutral." But she had to match the cadence of the flat dialect to the other performance and it made it weird.
That's as good a guess as any, but given that Fichtner had the same weird sort of cadence, I'm not sure. She was definitely dubbed, though.
Have an A-1 day!
I have adopted this into my everyday vernacular.
So... three stars?
Yeah, overall, I'd say it's worth a rental.
Tie yourself down to whatever chair you’re sitting in, because this review is gonna be a rough fucking ride.
In a summer, nay, an era filled with dumb, lazy sci-fi movies, Elysium was our last hope that someone could return some intelligence and class to the genre. It had a director fresh off the first sci-fi movie to be nominated for Best Picture in nearly 30 years, a cast of big-name stars and unknowns alike, and a socially-relevant premise to boot. This seemed the perfect recipe for success, and after a summer where most geeks were let down by what the studios had offered, Elysium would either be the year’s saving grace or the last nail in the coffin.
Turns out, it was neither. Elysium isn’t the last nail in the coffin for the summer. It nails the summer to the cross and leaves it to die. Elysium is everything wrong with science fiction, not to mention movies in the 2010s in general. Remarkably, it manages to be loud, dumb, and obnoxious, while pretending to be smart, highbrow, and thought-provoking. Instead of finally delivering some smart sci-fi, it’s as stupid as the worst of its genre. There’s a lot to say here, so I’ll just jump right in.
Right off the bat, I have to mention the performances, because they are an embarrassment to the craft of acting. Even people who we traditionally think of as “bad actors” have never turned in the sorts of performances that William Fichtner and Jodie Foster give us here. And I have to lay the blame squarely at the feet of director Neill Blomkamp, and I don’t see how you could do otherwise. These two are good actors, even in schlock. Just look at most of Fichtner’s career. Even in the worst films, he’s at least having fun. It’s hard to describe exactly what makes Fichtner and Foster so awful, but it’s mostly about their line readings. They have this weird, clipped, affected vocal styling that (because their characters are both from Elysium) I can only imagine was Blomkamp’s idea. Maybe it was supposed to feel cold and distant, but it comes across as stiff and awkward, like Blomkamp poured hot soup down their pants before rolling the cameras and they were trying their hardest not to react. It’s painful to watch, and it absolutely kills every scene with them. Here, watch this clip of Damon (the only good actor in the movie) for an example of what I’m not talking about.
See how he feels totally at home in this world? You can see on his face that he’s done this before, and you can tell that Damon is having fun with the scene. Now imagine that half of the leads of the movie are doing the exact opposite. Stiff, uncomfortable, like they have no idea what they’re supposed to be doing. Not that the non-Elysium characters are much better. Wagner Moura is twitchy and annoying as a character named Spider who helps Damon with some problems. Sharlto Copley, so great in Blomkamp’s District 9, is completely let down by the script. He’s trying desperately to make a character where Blomkamp just has a plot device, and it’s not really his fault that it doesn’t work out.
So let’s just run down the plot, shall we? Because it’s hard to talk about this movie without hitting all the major plot beats, and you’ll need some context to see where I’m coming from on this. And by the way, I know I’m in the minority on hating this movie, and I’m comfortable with that, because I’m confident that someday people will realize how terrible this movie is, and I’ll be vindicated. Anyway, on with the plot. And there’ll be spoilers, by the way, but this movie is so bad that you shouldn’t see it if you haven’t already, so don’t get too worked up about it.
We start with a series of flashbacks to the childhood of Max De Costa (Damon’s character), who grew up an orphan and befriended a girl named Frey (Alice Braga) when he was a boy. Did you walk into the theater late and miss these scenes? Worry not! They’ll be repeated endlessly throughout the film whenever any part of them is the least bit relevant because Blomkamp think you’re too stupid to remember that one of Max’s tattoos is of a drawing he made as a child! One of the nuns at the orphanage tells Max that he’s meant for great things, that God has a destiny for him, blah blah blah, and already the movie is setting itself up for failure. Part of the greatness of District 9 is that it followed the Die Hard model of setting up a world and then having one random guy have a very bad day in it. In that film, our “protagonist” wasn’t anyone special. He was just some guy. And his story didn’t have massive, worldwide importance. The stakes were personal, intensely so. Not so in Elysium. That nun tells Max that he’s meant for great things, and she’s right. By the end of the movie, he’ll be the savior of all mankind. Literally. I’m so sick of this “Chosen One” narrative. Heroes are more interesting when the world affects them, not the other way around.
Speaking of which, let’s have a chat about world building, and why Elysium totally fails at it. In case you’re unaware, in this movie the rich and privileged have moved to a space station hovering above Earth called Elysium, leaving the rest of us to suffer on a dying planet. Los Angeles, where most of the action is set, looks like a Mexican slum. While people are dying on Earth, the citizens of Elysium have “med-pods” which can cure any ailment. People try to send shuttles up there frequently, but they are almost always blown out of the air by the government of Elysium. Things are not looking good. But here’s the problem: everything I just said is the sum total of what the movie tells us about its world. Compare that to a movie like Pacific Rim, which in the first 10 minutes gives us a great idea of what its world is like to live in, and continues to build on that by including subtle details throughout the film. By the end of Pacific Rim, we can place ourselves in that world and imagine what our lives would be like, how we would be affected. But since Blomkamp never shows us anything outside of LA, we have no clue what the rest of the world looks like. Has the middle class been eliminated, or is the entirety of the planet an impoverished ghetto? Blomkamp barely bothers to give us anything original when setting this stage. We don’t see anything we haven’t seen a million times before. There’s literally a shot of Damon playing soccer with a bunch of poor kids in the middle of a dusty dirt road. Come on, guys. Show a little bit of effort. And Elysium itself doesn’t get much better treatment. From what I can tell, the average citizen of Elysium spends 100% of their time having barbecues on the patios of nice-looking houses. And that’s not an exaggeration, there is never a scene of an average Elysium citizen doing anything else but hanging out at parties wearing fancy clothes. What is life like up there? Where do they get their food? What are the people like? The children? Blomkamp gives us a movie without peripheral vision. We don’t know anything about this world that doesn’t directly affect our main characters.
So Max just got out of prison for grand theft auto or something, and he’s on parole. He’s got an awful job working in a factory, and one day there’s an accident and he gets a lethal dose of radiation. He’s gonna die in five days. So he agrees to pull a heist with a former associate if in exchange he can get a trip to Elysium to get cured. This “heist” involves taking bank codes, passwords, and other sensitive information out of the head of a random corporate target. Because that’s never ever been done before. Max chooses the jerk who owns the factory he worked for named Carlyle (Fichtner), but little does he know that the guy is working with Elysium’s Secretary of Defense, Jennifer Delacourte (Forster) to orchestrate a coup on Elysium. Carlyle designed Elysium’s security systems, so he writes a code that can unlock them and install a new person as the president. Because the way that people usually gain power is by crossing out the name of the current leader and writing their own. Pretty sure that’s how the Bolsheviks did it. Anyway, Carlyle uploads this code to his brain (because that’s never been done before) for safekeeping and goes on his merry way. But Max and his friends attack Carlyle’s shuttle, and Max uses a robotic exoskeleton that’s been grafted to his bones to defeat his security. This suit has been a focal point in the film’s advertising, but in reality it feels like one of many cheats that Blomkamp included to get to the ending that he wanted. It has no bearing on the story other than to eliminate tension from Max’s fight scenes. Like the first thing he does with it is tear the head off a robot, so when he’s confronted with human enemies in the climax, there’s no question that he’ll get out of it. It feels like Blomkamp wrote the movie backwards, and while that’s not an inherently faulty way to write something, it really shows on screen here. You can almost hear Blomkamp going, “Well, I need him to get here, so I’ll make this happen. But for that to happen, I need this to happen 20 pages earlier. But for THAT to happen…”
So Max uploads all of Carlyle’s brain-data into his own brain, not knowing that the key to Elysium is in there. Delacourte sics an insane black ops agent named Kruger (Copley) on him, and you start to realize that this is a really, really awful movie. Max hides in the home of his old friend Frey (remember her? Don’t worry, we’ll repeat those flashbacks for you just in case), whose daughter has leukemia or something and is close to death. Long, boring story short, Kruger tracks him down there and takes Frey and the kid as collateral to get Max to come to Elysium with him so that Delacourte can recover the code. But by this point, Max and his friends have realized that the code has the power to make everyone on Earth a citizen of Elysium (we’ll get to the stupidity of this later), so Max isn’t so eager to give it up, especially when he finds out that taking the code out will kill him. There’s an accident with a grenade on the way up, the shuttle crashes and Kruger’s face gets blown off. It’s an awesome, daring twist, considering that the movie has set him up to be Max’s primary antagonist. Frey and the girl run into a nearby house to get her inside a Med-Pod, but it doesn’t work because…because…
“Hm,” thinks Blomkamp. “I can’t have the girl get healed right away, because that ruins the climax. But why wouldn’t it work for her? … Wait, I’ve got it!”
Turns out the Med-Pod doesn’t work if you’re not a citizen of Elysium. And the Med-Pod recognizes the girl’s DNA and even pulls up her name, so it can tell that she’s not from there. The stupid is really piling up at this point.
Kruger gets put in a Med-Pod and gets healed, thus ruining the only interesting plot development that the movie has going for it. You see, even though his entire face is gone, his brain is still working (?!?) so the Med-Pod puts him back together. And as if to sum up all the problems with this movie in one plot beat, the Med-Pod restores his beard. Why would it do this? Why would it function in such a way? This isn’t even given a handwave, or a lighthearted mock. It’s just straight-up ignored. This lack of attention to detail is exactly what’s wrong with Elysium in micro. It’s almost incredible to watch the movie do something that bone-headed and act like it’s no big deal. You thought that Star Trek Into Darkness’ ending with Khan’s magic blood was stupid science? At least that got a handwave by way of Bones saying something like, “Oh, you were only half dead.” For all the complaining that nerds did this summer about that one detail, it doesn’t touch how stupid everything in the last act of Elysium is.
I should mention, by this point Delacourte has declared a military emergency and placed herself in charge of Elysium, deposing the president. Why she ever bothered with the hacking BS if taking over the station was that easy is unknown to us. Okay, so Kruger gets healed and reports to Delacourte, who he’s mad at because at the beginning of the movie he got relieved of duty, although not by her, so why he’s so pissed is kind of a mystery. He stabs her in the neck and she dies, because in this universe you can come back from getting your entire face blown off by a grenade at close range but get stabbed in an artery and there’s nothing we can do. So why does he stab her? Because…uh…
“Huh,” thinks Blomkamp. “I need Kruger and Max to face off in the climax, but why should Kruger care about him? He delivered the guy to Elysium, his mission is over. There’s no reason why he should be interested in Max further. Hm…I’ve got it!”
Kruger has decided that he wants to run Elysium, so he goes after Max to get the code for himself. Why has he made this sudden decision? Well, since there’s literally nothing in the preceding minutes to suggest that this is something that would ever interest him, I guess we’ll never know. So he and Max fight, and Max wins because duh, exoskeleton. He gets to the central mainframe with this guy Spider, and he decides that he’s ready to die if it means that everyone on Earth can be a citizen of Elysium. So Spider downloads the code, and in some super-lazy production design, replaces the part of the code that says “EARTH POPULATION = ILLEGALS” with “EARTH POPULATION = CITIZENS”. So when Elysium police bust down the door and demand that the security robot arrest Spider, the robot scans him and says that he “cannot arrest a citizen of Elysium.” Meanwhile, Frey cures her daughter in a Med-Pod and shuttles full of Med-Pods get sent to Earth where the medical robots immediately begin curing the sick. We get a shot of Max’s dead face as the nun’s words about him being “meant for something important” repeat in voice-over, and the movie ends.
This ending is so mind-numbingly moronic, so laughably obtuse, so stupefyingly senseless that it defies description. So Spider changes the code so that all of Earth’s citizens are now citizens of Elysium, and Frey’s daughter gets cured in a Med-Pod. So if it was that easy to change it, wouldn’t it be just as easy to change it back? Wouldn’t everything the heroes accomplished be reversed like five seconds later, meaning that Max’s dramatic sacrifice was for nothing? Not to mention that he’s all of a sudden totally okay with sacrificing his life to this cause despite the movie giving us absolutely no indication that he’s gone through a personality change. And if Elysium cared about Earth so little, as the movie initially implied that they did, why would they have extensive logs of everyone living there? Why would they bother? Speaking of which, why were there ships full of Med-Pods just lying around, ready to go? Why was Elysium prepared to help Earth? Again, why would they care? And when the robot says that it “cannot arrest a citizen of Elysium,” what’s stopping the human security forces from arresting him? Why does the robot have to do it? And speaking of which, why are the robots prevented from arresting Elysium citizens? Does Elysium have zero crime? You’re telling me that no citizen has ever murdered his or her significant other when they uncovered his or her torrid affair? Has no one ever intentionally burned down their house for the insurance money? No crime whatsoever? Had the movie established this idea at the outset, this line would have had some real resonance. As it stands, it’s just dumb. And since we have absolutely no concept of or attachment to this world, this major shift at the end has no impact on us. There’s no reason why we should care. We barely even understand why this change is so important, as unbelievable as it already is. This is the ending that Blomkamp was working towards? This is what he was rapidly and desperately introducing plot devices to accomplish? This? This is pathetic.
And at the end of the day, that’s all this movie is: a series of plot devices moving towards an inevitable conclusion. Everyone on Earth has to become a citizen of Elysium. Every character, every plot turn, everything in the movie is about making that happen. It feels totally unnatural. Even if this ending made sense and was worth telling, everything just feels like a chess piece being moved around in a really boring, obvious way. The characters don’t feel like people, and you never get the impression that they lead lives outside the confines of this plot. It’s that idea I mentioned earlier of a movie without peripheral vision. Blomkamp is so obsessed with getting us to this world’s endgame that he’s sacrificed everything important about moviemaking at that alter. Everything else feels secondary. In a good movie, the plot flows logically out of decisions the characters make, decisions that make sense given who these people have been established as and the world they live in. In Elysium, that’s all out the window. It’s almost sad, because this movie isn’t built on a bad foundation. As hacky and heavy-handed as the premise is, at least it’s trying to say something. But the movie lays it on so thick that all potential meaning is totally lost. Everyone on Elysium is the devil, even just random citizens, and everyone on Earth is a saint, even convicted criminals. It’s okay for a sci-fi movie to be a metaphor for something in the real world, but if you’re going to do that, you can’t paint with so broad a brush. There has to be subtlety, or else it comes across as preachy. Elysium never quite gets there, but instead it favors an approach which is arguably worse. It completely abandons and pretense of “ideas” or “social commentary” for a bunch of lame, repetitive, unoriginal action beats. Wall-E may have laid its message on a little thick, but at least that message was present for the entirety of the movie, instead of thrown in to set the stage at the beginning and given a token nod in the final scene.
Does this review come across as harsh? If it does, there’s a reason. I don’t see a lot of bad movies. I go to the theater a lot, so when I do, I don’t waste my money on movies I know will be bad. I’m never going to see a Scary Movie or a Grown-Ups 2, because I know that I’ll hate it, so there’s no point. I went into Elysium expecting some smart sci-fi, but what I got was dumber than a sack of hammers. Say what you will about Pacific Rim, which I loved, but it delivers on what it promises. It’s a movie with some awesome scenes of robots fighting monsters, and it never promises anything more or less. Elysium promised me cool sci-fi action and insightful social commentary, and while the former was kind of there, the latter was completely absent. This isn’t a movie ruined by a few flaws. This movie is one gigantic flaw. Everything that can be wrong with a sci-fi movie is wrong with Elysium. It is idiotic drivel strutting around like it has something important to say, and because of that it offends me on a much deeper level. Elysium is far and away the worst movie of the summer, and probably of the year by the time it’s all said and done. It is 2013′s answer to Prometheus, and I can’t think of a worse (or more fitting) insult to lob at it. I’m out.
1) Fight Club (So when I was like 13, I was pretty sure that I liked movies, but I hadn't really seen any. Like, you know when you've never tried a dessert, but you know you'd probably like it if you ever did? That was me with movies. Around this time, I was trying to reinvent myself so that I wouldn't be bullied so much. My mom, god love her, had instilled a love of books in me from the time I was an infant, and books weren't cool. So I'd had that stigma since elementary school, and I had to find something else to be associated with. Something cooler. I remember the first time someone referred to me as "the movie guy," and my heart soared. But herein lies a problem. Because when someone thinks of you as "the movie guy," they expect you to have seen movies. I would just go to the library every week and pick movies off the shelf that I'd vaguely remember hearing the name of, like 6 at a time. Fight Club was one of those movies, and in typical 13-year-old fashion, it blew my fucking mind. This is the first movie I remember loving so much that I invited friends over just to watch them watch it for the first time. Before this, I was kind of a poser movie buff. Like, "Oh yeah, I love movies," but I really didn't. Fight Club made me love movies, because Fight Club did things that, in my experience at the time, movies just didn't do. It had a crazy twist and a hero who really wasn't a hero and subliminal messages. It was like if the only play you've ever seen is Punch And Judy, and someone shows you Hamlet. "So this is what movies can be," I thought. Of course, I've seen a lot more movies since then, and Fight Club has slid rapidly down my list of favorites. Not that it's a bad movie by any stretch, it just isn't as mind-blowing to me anymore as it was when I was 14. But that doesn't change the impact it had on me.)
2) Seven Samurai (If Fight Club taught me to love movies, Seven Samurai taught me to appreciate movies. By this point, I was listening to Filmspotting on a regular basis, and they would talk about movies I'd never heard of in casual conversation. I was starting to realize that there was a whole subculture of awesome movies that the average person had no idea existed, and that idea thrilled me. And yes, I admit it, I picked up Seven Samurai at the library mainly to say that I had watched it. I mean, a 3-and-a-half hour long, black-and-white, in-Japanese-with-subtitles movie? Just watching that put me in another league, at least in my mind. I don't know if I even expected to enjoy it. The important thing was that I saw it. But lo and behold, I enjoyed the shit out of it. And not even in a classy, robe-and-monacle, "Hm, yes, quite, this is an important film" way. I had a blast. I loved the characters, I was totally absorbed by the plot, and for 200 minutes, I was completely transported. I had a realization then. "Wait, so old movies can actually be good?!? See, up to this point, I was under the impression that no one actually like watching old movies. They were like museum exhibits: interesting in their own way, but not like a roller coaster or anything. Turns out I was totally wrong. Old movies are fucking awesome. So screw you, younger self. You're an idiot.)
3) Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog (The reason that this is so defining for me is a little bit different. At this point, I had seen a lot of movies, and I listened to Filmspotting and one or two other film-related podcasts, but I wasn't really a part of or even aware of the online film community. So it's my birthday, and I get an iTunes gift card from my grandmother or someone. And I see on the store that there's this weird little TV-show-type-thing that just came out that same day. It was called Dr. Horrible, and it was from some guy named Joss Whedon who I'd never heard of, but I guess some people sure liked him, because a lot of people online were talking about it. It was only a few bucks so I figured I might as well give it a shot. And as soon as the first episode was over, I knew that this was something special. I was clamoring for people to talk to about it, but of course nobody in real life knew what the fuck a "Dr. Horrible" as it was being released. A few days later the second part comes out, and then the third, and when the credits rolled, I immediately scrambled to find out more about this "Whedon" fellow. The only forum I was a member of was for this podcast for the show Heroes, and it was a pretty tight-knit bunch. It was a lot like these forums, actually. And they told me that I absolutely had to watch something called Firefly, which was all streaming on Hulu at the time. Watched it, fell in love, the whole shebang. And as I start to get into more geek-related things, I start to get more into the online film community. And one day, out of the blue, Heroes is cancelled, and the podcast/forums with it. I was pretty despondent. Those forums were the first time that I felt I truly belonged somewhere online, with people I cared about. And that podcast (which had a regular segment about other geeky shows you might like if you like Heroes) was my gateway into the internet. I was despondent, and I was desperate for a replacement. And then some guy named cinebo on Twitter tweets about this show called Down In Front. So I figured, "Sure, what the hell. I'll give it a shot." And the rest is history.)
The nightmare before christmas came out in 1993. Quit smokin' dat crack.
Maybe he saw one of the re-releases. They did that every Christmas for a few years.
1) Toy Story (I saw this movie so many times that I remember it shot-for-shot. My mom took me to Burger King several times just to get the toys. I still have several of them.)
2) The Iron Giant (The first movie I can remember not just seeing, but wanting to see. I have a vivid memory of pointing at the poster and saying, "Mom, I want to see that." We got the VHS that had the little toy Giant, and my dad bought 2 copies because my little sister wanted one too. Both my Dad and my Mom accompanied me to the theater for this one. I still have fond memories of it.)
3) Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Harry Potter in general was a major defining factor in my childhood, so it has to get a mention. My school did a special field trip for each of the first 3 movies. EVERYONE loved Harry Potter, jocks and nerds alike. And everybody was dying to see the movie. Nothing was the same after Hedwig's Theme started playing and the WB logo flew past. Not for me, anyway.)
Josh Brolin would be a good Batman.
Doctor Submarine wrote:BigDamnArtist wrote:I don't know what you guys are talking about, I laughed my ass off.
Same here. This could be a new Birdemic.
Birdemic didn't have a budget and wasn't attempting to be ironic and shit. And you really thought that was laugh your ass off funny? :@
Well I laughed my ass off, so yeah.
I don't know what you guys are talking about, I laughed my ass off.
Same here. This could be a new Birdemic.
Wait...
Jeez, these final episodes are moving at a breakneck pace. Can I sue Vince Gilligan for whiplash? Because the DVD scene caused my jaw physical pain from how much it dropped.
Co-writer Travis Beacham has a blog, and he's been answering fans' plot nitpicks since release day. Mako didn't use the sword to start with because it would have spilled a lot of toxic Kaiju blood all over the city, so she waited until they were high above the ground.
Reminder:
Awesome casting. I'm a little more interested in this thing now.
Watched James Gunn's Super the other day. I found it pretty meh. Some of the early sequences were great, but the movie felt a little aimless, and it didn't have much to say about the superhero genre, even though its premise is ripe for parody. Still, Gunn has a very distinctive style, and I'm really excited for Guardians of the Galaxy.
Weird, I had never heard of Shailene Woodley before, but since she got cast in The Fault In Our Stars I'm seeing her everywhere, I mean she was on the damn Daily Show for the gods sake. It's weird how that works.
Her breakout role was in that George Clooney movie The Descendants. Since then she's been cast in every damn thing. She was supposed to play MJ in the next Spider-Man movie until the role was cut.
"Seven" is a perfectly good title for the movie "Seven."
Worth noting, no attempt has been made to make the sequels, which is actually surprising. Even PERCY JACKSON got a sequel.
If Eragon had come out last year, a sequel would probably be in production. This was before studios were desperate for the next big teenage fantasy franchise. Now every damn book series is getting adapted. What the fuck is "The Mortal Instruments" or "Divergent"? No one knows, but they have empowered young girls fighting the forces of darkness with sexy, roguish young men, and as we all know, that's the only thing that teenage girls are looking for in a movie.
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